[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Graybeard Pat ... page numbers are only relevant to the displayed number you have set in your profile cool bananas ... greg

I'm confused Greg, on the bottom of the page for posts it says page 45 of 45, or 44 of 45, etc. That is the page I'm refering to. Is that wrong?

Best,

Pat

[Graybeard]

Originally Posted by Profpat I'm confused Greg, on the bottom of the page for posts it says page 45 of 45, or 44 of 45, etc. That is the page I'm refering to. Is that wrong?

Pat ... this reply ... number 452 ... is on page 12 ... for me.

In my profile I have chosen to display 40 posts per page, others may have chosen differently ... so page numbers have no 'absolute' reference ... only post numbers do ... LOL

cool bananas ... greg

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Graybeard Pat ... this reply ... number 452 ... is on page 12 ... for me. In my profile I have chosen to display 40 posts per page, others may have chosen differently ... so page numbers have no 'absolute' reference ... only post numbers do ... LOL cool bananas ... greg

Thank you sir appreciate your help

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Everyone; On page 45 post #446 Is a summation of various creation stories. On page 39 post #338 Is Plato's and Aristotle's thoughts on first cause. Here are the thoughts of Parmenides and Heraclitus on the subject. PARMENIDES: Thought the world is "One Being". Unchanging, ungenerated, indestructible whole. For him movement and change are simply appearances of a static, eternal reality. HERACLITUS: Thought everything was always changing or in flux. "This entails the coincidence of opposites" meaning that things are both the same and opposite each other at the same time. Heraclitus is the first to the word kosmos for world order, which he believed ever was and ever will be, not created by god or man. That about sums up the best ancient thoughts on or universe. The different thoughts seem very similar to todays diverse opinions on our universe. Best to all, Pat

Lao Tzu said the Tao that can be spoken is not the Tao, than went on to write a 4000 word discourse of what the Tao is/isn't... go figure.
That's why the Buddha stated: "Thus have I heard."

Nothing I can tell you is true, you have to find out for your self.
It is the ineffible.

http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/CHPHIL/LAOTZU.HTM

[Profpat]

Great link Drifter, The Tao is a classic

[dipayankar]

I read somewhere that to solve great mysteries, you need to pose questions like an illiterate. And since I am illiterate in science, I guess I would be able to help you greats in solving the mysteries of this Universe...

Originally Posted by Profpat You pose interesting questions Dipayankar. Here are my thoughts. Absolute zero means no movement and therefore no heat. Absolute hot, therefore would probably mean absolute movement, perhaps your question is a key to explain how there was spatial inflation and how space could move faster than light. Here is a post describing the first second after the "big bang". The entire post is located at: ( http://www.geocities.com/lungdoctor_...ory.htm?200718 ) The First Second<SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">. One microsecond after the creation of the universe the temperature was about 10 trillion degrees K – about a million times hotter than the center of the Sun. The glow of radiation would have been intense and uniform in all directions, and there would have been a bright fog that limited vision to a small fraction of a centimeter. The high-energy gamma rays that made up most of the radiation at that time were so energetic that they were capable of pair production. Pair production is the production of matter from energy whereby the collision of two photons yields a particle and its antimatter counterpart. Therefore, one set of products of pair production is an electron and a positron (which is as massive as an electron but has a positive charge). Other possible pairs would be a neutrino and an antineutrino, and many others. Pair production is one of the most spectacular consequences of Einstein’s famous equation; E=mc2. For two photons to produce a pair of particles, these photons must have energy at least equal to mc2, where m is the combined mass of the particle and antiparticle, and c is the speed of light. A microsecond after the universe began, the gamma ray photons present had sufficient energy to produce protons, neutrons, electrons and their antiparticles. PS SORRY THE URL DIDN"T WORK

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by dipayankar I read somewhere that to solve great mysteries, you need to pose questions like an illiterate. And since I am illiterate in science, I guess I would be able to help you greats in solving the mysteries of this Universe...

You realize of course that you are posing questions to another person who is also illiterate in science.

But maybe two blind searchers, with perhaps the help of others, both sighted and blind, will be able to figure out that the elephant is an elephant, and not a tree or snake or fan.

Best to you Dipayankar,

Pat

[Drifter]

Quote:
Originally Posted by dipayankar
I read somewhere that to solve great mysteries, you need to pose questions like an illiterate. And since I am illiterate in science, I guess I would be able to help you greats in solving the mysteries of this Universe...

You realize of course that you are posing questions to another person who is also illiterate in science.

But maybe two blind searchers, with perhaps the help of others, both sighted and blind, will be able to figure out that the elephant is an elephant, and not a tree or snake or fan.

Best to you Dipayankar,

Pat

We are, one and all, seekers at different points along the path.

What is The Greatest Mystery?

Refining the question [precisely] might be a good first step on a long journey.

Fixate it in the mind, then watch the magic happen.

[Drifter]

I propose: "Who Am I", as a starting point.

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Drifter I propose: "Who Am I", as a starting point.

Physically, Mentally, or Spiritually, Drifter?