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    Re: An Idea



    The Way of Former Heaven (or Hsien-t'ien tao or Xian Tian Dao , 先天道)


    The Chinese term Xian Tian roughly translates to "Before Heaven". This sequence denotes a world in perfect balance. The phases in this sequence are in stasis (motionless) with no movement, interaction, or transformation.
    I liked how the first symbol somewhat stylized the Borromean Ring Structure.

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    In physics, asymptotic freedom is a property of some gauge theories that causes interactions between particles, such as quarks, to become arbitrarily weak at shorter distances, i.e. length scales that asymptotically converge to zero (or, equivalently, energy scales that become arbitrarily large).
    Asymptotic freedom implies that in high-energy scattering the quarks move within nucleons, such as the neutron and proton, mostly as free non-interacting particles. It allows physicists to calculate the cross sections of various events in particle physics reliably using parton techniques.

    The reasons for quark confinement are somewhat complicated; no analytic proof exists that quantum chromodynamics should be confining (From WIKI)



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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    In physics, asymptotic freedom is a property of some gauge theories that causes interactions between particles, such as quarks, to become arbitrarily weak at shorter distances, i.e. length scales that asymptotically converge to zero (or, equivalently, energy scales that become arbitrarily large).
    Asymptotic freedom implies that in high-energy scattering the quarks move within nucleons, such as the neutron and proton, mostly as free non-interacting particles. It allows physicists to calculate the cross sections of various events in particle physics reliably using parton techniques.

    The reasons for quark confinement are somewhat complicated; no analytic proof exists that quantum chromodynamics should be confining (From WIKI)


    Good direction and post from my recent ponder Pat.

    I have reached the prediction that the problem is in the area of the establishment of the boundary paradox. Is the outside of the nucleon the same as the inside of the nucleon?

    Is the nucleon subjected to a pressure variation where the wave of pressure upon the nucleon sometimes is greater?

    Is it salt in water or sand in water?

    Is it a size factor of the composite in the ocean of lets say charge? the ocean having units of charge that maintains the ability of the quark composite to exist in a conjoin of flavor?

    lots to consider an read up on. as one would read the term use of parton a lot of movement from the original thought of quark being in that ocean demands attention as a key look up perhaps.

    Kind regards, g.

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    Re: An Idea

    Good question g I'll have to ponder myself.

    As far as thr inside vs the outside of the proton/neutron, I would imagine the dynamics principally playing inside but it still has outside dynamics to bond it to other proton/neutrons if the outside pressure is right.

    Best,

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    You're right about the protons usually having 1 electron but sometimes less and sometimes more. I've been rethinking my position on electrons in that they may be an actual particle in their own right namely a string. So I thought maybe the beam got interrupted or it split, but nothing yet to describe ionization, but I haven't given up, or else you have to explain why the E/M force doesn't crash the electron into the proton.

    Best,

    Pat
    The electron would not show unless there is a need for itself to 'shine.' Sometimes the need can be so great that more than one will 'shine.' Similarly, charity is not needed when everyone has enough money. But would there be much use for money if everyone has plenty? Money would probably lose some of its importance, and people would focus on other things (science, philosophy, religion, art, just to name a few) instead of bread, shelter, a well-paying job.

    To expect charity to crash itself into the wealthy is counter productive. If there is a need, the charitable organization cannot do other than circle those of greater means with displays of need and waiting for them to give up some of their wealth.

    To call the electron a string is like calling the charity organization an emotion. There is some truth to it, but it is nevertheless an awkward delivery, not immediately correct. To call the electron the response would be better some, if we agree that it is itself still not the action (even though the electron is acting up to get attention for the cause). I would call the electron the organization desiring to have the need addressed.

    The proton (the possessor of that what can lessen the need) may not view itself as the cause of the need. This would be true, because the need of money is not caused by money, but by the distribution of money and the fact that money itself is an abstraction with a function of a most general level. The proton can be generous, and that is what the electron desires, a giving proton not for itself, but for addressing the need.

    The transaction of money (energy) is instantaneous; like telling the bank to take a number (for instance 10) of the number you possess (for instance, 1000) and giving that number to the neutron. The proton has then a different number, 990, and the neutron will distribute the 10 over itself, not necessarily in equal proportions. Most likely, the movement through space is more beneficial for the proton (then ending up again with 1000 through natural accumulation of numbers), and the neutron must use up the extra 10 just to remain in place and is then in need of more again. An unending story, because also not stoppable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post


    I wonder, in answer to my original question, as to what form or shape the pure energy in E = mc2 looks like, perhaps it does take on a 2 dimensional dualistic flat shape surface area like the Tao? When you approach light speed doesn't everything flatens out?

    Best,

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    An image with a formula what could be better, no words needed.
    When approaching the speed of light, not everything flattens out, only the observer is totally flat. Reason: no observer will ever be able to get to such speed. The delivery is flat, not the actual outcome. We are looking at a painting (about what will happen when we fly at the speed of light), and the answer is therefore also flat. We will see everything as flat, and that is indeed a reasonable assumption when we started to exist at the level of a painting).

    What is harder than a diamond? If you say that nothing is, does that mean that everything then gets flatter when approaching that hardness of the diamond? I'd say not, it only got more compressed, but is still 3D.

    If going faster than a photon (neutrino's go faster, don't they?) their encounters with the photon are just of a shorter duration. When a photon oneself, the environment is that of other normally behaving photons as well. The remaining matter may be enigmas for the photons, because what is that planet doing on my path? Splat!

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    Hi Fredrick;

    I agree the quark probably has the dynamics of the Tao Symbol. I haven't been able to quite figure out their eyes however. So we have 1) The Black area, 2) The white eye within that black area, 3) The white area, 4) The black area within the white area, 5) The self created border, both within and without, and 6) What is it resting upon? 7) That central point that it's revolving around.

    We also have position and flow represented here. (Particle/Wave)

    And does it flow clockwise:


    Or counter-clockwise:



    Does it create an opposite charge depending which way it's flowing?
    Does a painting fly? No, but the more we have invested in a painting, the more we can imagine it to fly; especially when the painting is of a very nice looking airplane.

    Yin and Yang is really nothing more than an abstraction, just like money is an abstraction. There are functions involved with abstractions, but the abstractions themselves are nothings. We cannot eat and drink money, we cannot cartwheel Yin and Yang. We cannot play dice with god.

    The eyes are easy to understand if you see Yin and Yang as two independent entities, Pat, as what they are already supposed to be. Yet even with two individual entities of the same kind, there is always something of the one in the other, and vice versa.

    So, if we start out with black and white, then the black entity will have some white somewhere. But the white is never white as a result, because adding white to black is gray.

    Same for the other entity. When white, there is always something that contains some black. Yet this black can never be black in the outcome because it is part of the white: it must therefore be gray even when the essence of the additional reality is indeed black.

    The white of the white entity is the absolute nature, while the black shows that not even the white can maintain that absoluteness. Same for the black entity, its nature is of an absolute kind, with the exception of the white parts. Hence, absolute does not exist, except at the overall (abstract, non-detailed) level. To state that there is absolutely never anything that is of an absolute nature is a contradiction in terms.
    The difference between a structure based on unification and a structure without unification hinges on the question if nothing is just plain nothing or if nothing is mighty fundamental. Read In Search of a Cyclops with titillating mathematical evidence (see homepage) to find out if separation belongs to the fundamental basics of our universe - or not.

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    In physics, asymptotic freedom is a property of some gauge theories that causes interactions between particles, such as quarks, to become arbitrarily weak at shorter distances, i.e. length scales that asymptotically converge to zero (or, equivalently, energy scales that become arbitrarily large).
    Asymptotic freedom implies that in high-energy scattering the quarks move within nucleons, such as the neutron and proton, mostly as free non-interacting particles. It allows physicists to calculate the cross sections of various events in particle physics reliably using parton techniques.

    The reasons for quark confinement are somewhat complicated; no analytic proof exists that quantum chromodynamics should be confining (From WIKI)


    If quarks are positions, then distance is always key, Pat and Graham. According to me, when close/closer together, we must see a greater level of agreement of state.

    A republican convention will have like-minded people at the event. They will have a low profile of hostility to one and each other. But a quick separation occurs if Code Pink unveils a banner against some kind of war; either the other people at the convention will ignore the CP members, or the guards will escort the CP people friendly to the door. In other words, distance is then created/established.

    Naturally, agreeing does not eliminate the members from being individuals.
    The difference between a structure based on unification and a structure without unification hinges on the question if nothing is just plain nothing or if nothing is mighty fundamental. Read In Search of a Cyclops with titillating mathematical evidence (see homepage) to find out if separation belongs to the fundamental basics of our universe - or not.

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    Hi Fredrick;

    Thanks for the response. So what do you think energy's form or structure looks like. I thought maybe the circular shape because the explosion from the atomic bomb seems to form an energy pancake.

    So maybe it's circular or maybe spherical? I imagine it to be just a surface area.

    I don't disagree about the yin/yang has each others essence in the Tao diagram, but does the positive charge have a negative charge internally? Ditto for the negative charge, does it too have a positive charge internally?

    You're right when you mix black and white you get gray. But what do you get when you mix Light with Void?

    Best,

    Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrick View Post
    If quarks are positions, then distance is always key, Pat and Graham. According to me, when close/closer together, we must see a greater level of agreement of state.

    A republican convention will have like-minded people at the event. They will have a low profile of hostility to one and each other. But a quick separation occurs if Code Pink unveils a banner against some kind of war; either the other people at the convention will ignore the CP members, or the guards will escort the CP people friendly to the door. In other words, distance is then created/established.

    Naturally, agreeing does not eliminate the members from being individuals.
    When they do get closer together I would think now that the quark interaction between each other becomes more in agreement but why this happens is the interesting feature of my ponder .. and i will post better clarity once i have a picture drawn up. ... I do not think i postulated positron but there is anti particle for all.
    kind regards graham

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrick View Post
    If quarks are positions, then distance is always key, Pat and Graham. According to me, when close/closer together, we must see a greater level of agreement of state.
    Quote Originally Posted by G_burnett View Post
    When they do get closer together I would think now that the quark interaction between each other becomes more in agreement but why this happens is the interesting feature of my ponder
    Quarks are actually friends ..... all quarks are .... and when they start to separate absence makes their little hearts grow unbearably fonder ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Quarks are actually friends ..... all quarks are .... and when they start to separate absence makes their little hearts grow unbearably fonder ...

    cool bananas ... greg
    3 quarks on the table are always good fro friends lol ..g


 

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