An Idea

[Profpat]

Hi Austin;

Thanks for the links. Since you are so good on graphics could you image me space EXPANDING into space, with no void.

Or anyone for that matter. Lloyd, Greg, Fredrick, Antonio or any one.

I think the reason why the physicists don't want to discuss it, is that it's like pre-big bang.
Nothing to talk about, observe, gather evidence on, etc.

My imagination requires an image for it to work, I gave you images, not mine, of the universe expanding into the void. You have to or you can't come up with an image of spatial expansion.

Back to the Bindu Dot:
CIRCLE with a DOT (BINDU) in the center: In the complex symbolic system of Hinduism and Buddhism, the bindu (dot) represents the male force. Together, the circle and the bindu symbolize the merging of male and female forces.

It seems our little dot can represent not only the seed of the universe but also the essence of Yin/Yang.

Best to all,

Pat

[Fredrick]

I am good, Austin (but busy). How are you?

I'm not so busy now. The tennis job ended. The place closed and reopened but just a few came back. Never have a closed universe; better to have one always open.

I put some color books on Amazon but they may be too expensive to buy. Will finally take a look at your publishing place soon.

A few days ago I was busy working on the void. Before that we, mostly Prof, solved many secrets of the universe.

Currently we are getting off the void and working on a dot.

An artist friend of mine told me about how getting one's art in the public's eye is more important than its online availability. His idea for his next clothing project was to investigate who would be the right person to give his artwork to, and then hope for the best. Another example is of a company that provided their product to TV producers that ended up using it in one of their series; it started selling right away.

You know of anyone who would be good to just get your art for free and that way propagate your art/work? TV producers, movie artists, local politicians, athletes, younameit...

[Fredrick]

Thanks Fredrick, I was not including the 0 because I look at that as something like the creative power of God or where everything ushers from.

Yes from your way it highlights eight, (sorry can't do the number as for some strange reason it always turns into a little face...lol) and eight is significantly important!!

Regards Mikal

I had the same eight problem, Mikal.

I agree with your words, yet what I consider more important is that no single delivery can be thé delivery (except as a concept).

If we look at the decimal numbers with 0 and 9 having these special features of the phenomenon of nothing, then we end up with four out of five singular numbers taking in grounded locations. The one of five is then the number in top of the pyramid.

If we look at gravity, and consider it the product of the four forces (strong nuclear force, weak nuclear force, electric force and the magnetic force) then gravity would be that fifth force of the phenomenon of nothing. At the heart where the four forces 'battle' each other, no single force rules. It is at this center that gravity comes into being.

With the four forces pushing their will onto the center, and none of them able to fully rule, matter in that very center will be pushed to go either down or up. Gravity is nothing but the forces battling at an equilibrium, but forcing matter at that location in a very specific direction nevertheless. We see the same occurring around a black hole with two spouts often visible, perpendicular to the galactic disk. The spouts move outwardly in singular directions until the forces subside.




It actually does not matter at this level to distinguish between down and up, because whichever direction the matter is going that will be considered up. Just ask a person in Sydney, one in New York, and one in Beijing what is up, and they all give you the same correct answer, even when all pointing at a different location in space.

[Fredrick]

I'm sorry Fredrick mine was posted on post #4747 and Austin's was on #4749.

The void inside would have fields (gravitational, EMR, etc.) between the light points and so even if that area was void of matter it would still have fields and therefore not void. The void outside have no dots or lights or anything to connect. Nothing, no matter, no fields, nothing, VOID.

I'm still waiting for an image or description or something logical as to how space inflated at the big bang if there was no Void to accept that inflation. So please show me an image or at least a logical explanation that I can understand as easily as my space expanding into the VOID.
PLEASE.

No, I should apologize for not seeing what was right in front of me, having read it, and not getting what you were asking.

Since I am interested in the ToE, I prefer specific words, not general words. So, in the final delivery I cannot use the words god, life and joy (nor void placed next to space), while I consider the little tiny Bindu Point quite the opposite of the Empty Nest theory I support.

I know the word potential is not too specific, but that is simply the best I can do to fill up the area from which we arrived (you use the word god, and I can read that just fine).

I do not see joy and life as the essence of the ToE, even when acknowledging their essence to what I am. The cause for the universe is conflict (from internalized tension to outward expression), but most of the conflicts have been worked out. Give it space and any conflict will subside eventually.

Empty Nest is the large non-materialized area within the materializing universe, itself initially remaining at that first state.

I can agree with your when, what and where.

[Profpat]

"I'm still waiting for an image or description or something logical as to how space inflated at the big bang if there was no Void to accept that inflation. So please show me an image or at least a logical explanation that I can understand as easily as my space expanding into the VOID.
PLEASE."

Gentlemen, I'm still waiting for that image, my imagination requires it. If you can't imagine it than it doesn't exist. I can even imagine a void, nothing, and that is why IT does exists.

Fredrick, life and joy isn't the essence of TOE, it is reason behind creation. It is man's purpose to live in joy. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Best to all,

Pat

[Profpat]

bindu: (Sanskrit) "A drop, small particle, dot."
1) The seed or source of creation. In the 36 tattvas, the nucleus or first particle of transcendent light, technically called Parabindu, corresponding to the Shakti tattva. Scientists say the whole universe just before the big bang could fit on the head of a pin- a tremendous point of [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]energy[/COLOR][/COLOR]- that is Parabindu.

How did the ancients know that the universe came from a little tiny point?

How did they know it was a created universe?

How did they know that the evolution of life was vegetation, sea life, reptiles, mammals and finally man?

How did they know that we are "dust"?

Science is just now confirming what the ancient religions told us long ago, and I didn't even mention the dynamics of the Tao.

Pretty clever people I would say.

Best,

Pat

[G_burnett]

bindu: (Sanskrit) "A drop, small particle, dot."
1) The seed or source of creation. In the 36 tattvas, the nucleus or first particle of transcendent light, technically called Parabindu, corresponding to the Shakti tattva. Scientists say the whole universe just before the big bang could fit on the head of a pin- a tremendous point of [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]energy[/color][/color]- that is Parabindu.

How did the ancients know that the universe came from a little tiny point?.....
Pat

Birth itself Pat methinks...
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[Profpat]

Birth itself Pat methinks...
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Pretty big baby from a little tiny womb. Talk about pain in child birthing. The Big Bang would be the Big Ouch.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Void:

(Nothing here)

[G_burnett]

Pretty big baby from a little tiny womb. Talk about pain in child birthing. The Big Bang would be the Big Ouch.

HEY thats a good one! Better term then Big Bang ! ...(I knew if in good tradition we made fun of the term void you would come out with your fine smarts with something, h... all the big brains were made fun of lol ...)

Kind regards graham