An Idea

[Profpat]

You may well be right about equating radiation with gravity. I think the two are the same but opposite phenomenon.

[N0B0DY]

Exactly, Pat. The difference is the same difference between fermions and bosons. Both different forms of the same energy, where gravity is the bonding force of massive particles, and light is the result of their decay.

The correlation to all being created by and consisting of light is between the aforementioned experiments - http://www.slac.stanford.edu/exp/e144/nshorts.html - and the biblical account of John 1.

[dipayankar]

Tell me Nobody, how can dimensionless strings create a single dimension string??

"But maybe two blind searchers, with perhaps the help of others, both sighted and blind, will be able to figure out that the elephant is an elephant, and not a tree or snake or fan."

I reckon it's a rope, Pat, which from a distance would behave as a string. Though as a starting "point" I would propose the non-dimensional type.

Similar to ZPE, counter-intuitively extending from both ends of the Energy Spectrum, the infinitesimal points covering the World Sheet or Field link both ends of the Spectrum to any and every other point. Sort of like a quid pro quo ex nihilo.

[RascalPuff]

Tell me Nobody, how can dimensionless strings create a single dimension string??

From my perspective, Dipayankar, String 'theory' hasn't any dimensions to suspend itself from - it's 'New Age' plugging for what isn't understood.

W'out a minimum of 3 dimensions, there is no manifestation in metric (real) space.

Best regards,
- RP

[neutralino]

Tell me Nobody, how can dimensionless strings create a single dimension string??

Strings do have dimensions. They are attached to the three dimensional brane that is our universe at a single point, and thus appear to us to be zero dimensional.

[RascalPuff]

Strings do have dimensions. They are attached to the three dimensional brane that is our universe at a single point, and thus appear to us to be zero dimensional.

We are agreed to disagree on that point, Neutralino.

Best regards,
- RP

[N0B0DY]

Tell me Nobody, how can dimensionless strings create a single dimension string??

I think the idea is a bit mixed up here in that points, as in point particles or point masses in general, not strings, extended to create the first strings. To perhaps merge RP's and Neutralino's thinking, the strings are extensions from the space-time fabric.

Though when spacetime is considered to consist of a single point, G=mc^2, then sizes and shapes cease to remain prevalent - all shapes, sizes and dimensions are simultaneously included and excluded like a blank white canvass that "already" contains every picture conceivable.

[Profpat]

Some very good points gentlemen.

I'm still of the belief that to get to three dimensionality you do it step by step and not all at once.

That is why my Idea went through the dimensions to get to the 3rd dimension of the proton.

While, this can be achieved with the 1 dimensional string, those strings, and really only those strings are required to do that.

Needless to say the weakest part of the Idea is that it need strings, and there we are back to the something from nothing conundrum.

This means those strings are eternal, compacted into the tiny beginning point, or they were created.

Best to all,

Pat

[Profpat]

This is a quote by me from an old post, from a different thread, but I believe is applicable to our present discussion.

"Very strange and wonderful this universe of ours.

Physicist tell us that most everthing is space. Protons, neutrons, atoms, ( our basic building block ) is for the most part space. In the universe a lot more space then stars and planets ( which are made up of atoms, which are largely space themselves )

It seams like the basic building block of matter is a theoritical string of Plank's length.

Wonders of wonders, all we need are an infinite number of Planck length strings, within a dimensionless point, to account for everything.

As I recall Georg Cantor proved that there are three infinities.

Aleph 0 The infinity of numbers. ( "bigger' if you will )
Aleph 1 The infinity of points. ( "biggest" and last )
Aleph 2 The infinity of curves.

So it seems conceptually at least, we could have an infinite number of curves within a point.

Or, if you will an infinite number of theoritical strings within our dimensionless point universe.

Needless to say if this is the case we are all still attached to that singularity point."

Best to all,

Pat

[Drifter]

This is a quote by me from an old post, from a different thread, but I believe is applicable to our present discussion.

"Very strange and wonderful this universe of ours.

Physicist tell us that most everthing is space. Protons, neutrons, atoms, ( our basic building block ) is for the most part space. In the universe a lot more space then stars and planets ( which are made up of atoms, which are largely space themselves )

It seams like the basic building block of matter is a theoritical string of Plank's length.

Wonders of wonders, all we need are an infinite number of Planck length strings, within a dimensionless point, to account for everything.

As I recall Georg Cantor proved that there are three infinities.

Aleph 0 The infinity of numbers. ( "bigger' if you will )
Aleph 1 The infinity of points. ( "biggest" and last )
Aleph 2 The infinity of curves.

So it seems conceptually at least, we could have an infinite number of curves within a point.

Or, if you will an infinite number of theoritical strings within our dimensionless point universe.

Needless to say if this is the case we are all still attached to that singularity point."

Best to all,

Pat

I borrowed this from another post as well Professor.

http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/j...su/powersof10/