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Re: An Idea - 01-11-2008, 10:50 AM

Hi Rybo;

Thank you for your post. You are right and I stand corrected, it would not be a spherical shape. Rather it would be a geodesic dome and geodesic sphere shape. Thank you for your insight. I do believe they would be at 90 degrees of each other due to the equality of the complementary opposites of the domains.

I don't believe it would be Plato's octahedron, in that I believe those are linear lines and not curved. Otherwise it would be the same. I would be very interested in further information of the 3 Great Circles you mentioned.

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Re: An Idea - 01-11-2008, 11:51 AM

I'm going to expand on my thoughts regarding trinity.

To me it's essential to have a complete ONE. Whether that is Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; or Mental, Physical, and Emotional, to make up the dynamics of ONE PERSON.

The universe needs TIME, SPACE and MOTION to make up it's existence.

The three primary colors of light, RED, GREEN and BLUE are necessary to make up our spectrum.

Three Quarks are required to construct the Proton/Neutron.

ME, MYSELF and I make up Pat. ( ME, mass/energy, the radiating body ) ( I, the I AM the mind ) ( SELF the spirit which resides in the person )

Now if trinity is needed physically ( Time,space, motion ) ( 3 quarks ) ( 3 primary colors ) I would think this trinity permeates all things.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

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Re: An Idea - 01-11-2008, 03:22 PM

But what about the four basic forces? And the eleven dimensions of string theory?? They are not in trinity. we perceive only three dimensions, is there a limitation with the earch creatures??


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To me it's essential to have a complete ONE. Whether that is Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; or Mental, Physical, and Emotional, to make up the dynamics of ONE PERSON.

The universe needs TIME, SPACE and MOTION to make up it's existence.

The three primary colors of light, RED, GREEN and BLUE are necessary to make up our spectrum.

Three Quarks are required to construct the Proton/Neutron.

ME, MYSELF and I make up Pat. ( ME, mass/energy, the radiating body ) ( I, the I AM the mind ) ( SELF the spirit which resides in the person )

Now if trinity is needed physically ( Time,space, motion ) ( 3 quarks ) ( 3 primary colors ) I would think this trinity permeates all things.

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Re: An Idea - 01-11-2008, 03:22 PM

Hi Dipayankar;

I guess no higher authority is going to handle this one so maybe you and I will have to try to figure it out.

First it's an interesting thought that you posed, that a photon is a DIMENSIONLESS point particle. I have been researching and thinking. Here is my understanding regarding light and the photon.

Light, the wave, is a 2 dimensional transverse wave. It is electromagnetc radiation. It doesn't create it. It is it. Being a TWO dimensional transverse wave it has THREE dimensional characteristics, namely Length, Width, and Heigth.

Photon, the particle or " bundle " of light, is massless and has been refered to as a ghost particle. That doesn't mean it's a dimensionless point particle, that would be as I said before, would be NOTHING. rather it like light is created when mass is converted to energy. It is the EMR.

Now when light is viewed through a prism you get the spectrum.

I believe the photon and light wave are one and the same. The 2 dimensional transverse wave is bundle by what appears to be particles again because they have L,W, and H.

It's been nice discussing this with you but I do wish Neutralino or somebody else who knows the ANSWER, not their own speculation would check in on this one.

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Re: An Idea - 01-11-2008, 03:33 PM

Me the moron.. well one small question Prof.. do you believe a dimensionless point can exist and be stable??? Neutralino and Dave, this questions to you as well...

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I guess no higher authority is going to handle this one so maybe you and I will have to try to figure it out.

First it's an interesting thought that you posed, that a photon is a DIMENSIONLESS point particle. I have been researching and thinking. Here is my understanding regarding light and the photon.

Light, the wave, is a 2 dimensional transverse wave. It is electromagnetc radiation. It doesn't create it. It is it. Being a TWO dimensional transverse wave it has THREE dimensional characteristics, namely Length, Width, and Heigth.

Photon, the particle or " bundle " of light, is massless and has been refered to as a ghost particle. That doesn't mean it's a dimensionless point particle, that would be as I said before, would be NOTHING. rather it like light is created when mass is converted to energy. It is the EMR.

Now when light is viewed through a prism you get the spectrum.

I believe the photon and light wave are one and the same. The 2 dimensional transverse wave is bundle by what appears to be particles again because they have L,W, and H.

It's been nice discussing this with you but I do wish Neutralino or somebody else who knows the ANSWER, not their own speculation would check in on this one.

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Re: An Idea - 01-11-2008, 03:34 PM

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But what about the four basic forces? And the eleven dimensions of string theory?? They are not in trinity. we perceive only three dimensions, is there a limitation with the earch creatures??
Hi again Dipayankar;

Another good question.

If you go back to my diagram in my Idea you'll see how those 7 dimensions are created by the three quarks or circles'

Yes they believe there are 4 forces but I think there is only ONE. That is the quest for the T.O.E.

In my Idea I think the strong nuclear and weak nuclear are really our old friend EMR. Complementary opposites, positive and negative charges.

Science has believed that for some time now. They believe at the very beginning there were only 2 forces Gravity and EMR. Again the trick was to reconcile gravity with EMR to come up with only ONE force.
My own thought is that EMR and Gravity are the same only opposite forces.

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Re: An Idea - 01-11-2008, 03:44 PM

This brings me to my predicament ( I hope I spelt it right). If EM is electricity and magnetism then, magnetism still does not give us monopoles whereas electricity does. So are we clever in combining these forces? The basis of both these forces are different. In other words one gives rise to the other, so in effect are we looking at two branches of the fundamental force and not a single force as we perceive???

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Another good question.

If you go back to my diagram in my Idea you'll see how those 7 dimensions are created by the three quarks or circles'

Yes they believe there are 4 forces but I think there is only ONE. That is the quest for the T.O.E.

In my Idea I think the strong nuclear and weak nuclear are really our old friend EMR. Complementary opposites, positive and negative charges.

Science has believed that for some time now. They believe at the very beginning there were only 2 forces Gravity and EMR. Again the trick was to reconcile gravity with EMR to come up with only ONE force.
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Re: An Idea - 01-11-2008, 04:22 PM

Hi Dipayankar;

I found this which may be of interest to you at the Wiki site.

In physics, a dyon is a hypothetical particle with both electric and magnetic charges. A dyon with a zero electric charge is usually referred to as a magnetic monopole. Many Grand Unified Theories predict the existence of both magnetic monopoles and dyons.

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Re: An Idea - 01-11-2008, 07:09 PM

Hi Drifter;

Thank you for your post of Daemon and Eidoton.
It was very interesting.

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Re: An Idea - 01-11-2008, 07:29 PM

When a man feels he needs to take into account his evolutionary standpoint, the result of this response is a reorientation of the lower man in order to produce a synthesis of the Three and the One so that the work of the Four may proceed. Here you have a reflection consumated in the microcosm of that which the Solar Logos started, the "Sacred Four" of the Cosmos; man in his turn becomes a "Sacred Four" - spirit and the three of manifestation.


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To me it's essential to have a complete ONE. Whether that is Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; or Mental, Physical, and Emotional, to make up the dynamics of ONE PERSON.

The universe needs TIME, SPACE and MOTION to make up it's existence.

The three primary colors of light, RED, GREEN and BLUE are necessary to make up our spectrum.

Three Quarks are required to construct the Proton/Neutron.

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Now if trinity is needed physically ( Time,space, motion ) ( 3 quarks ) ( 3 primary colors ) I would think this trinity permeates all things.

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