An Idea

[Drifter]

Every thought within this conscious corpse is an opportunity for choice.

It is impossible to be permanently happy while attached to a body. A man should train is soul in this life so that, when he enters the other world where he is able to see God, he does not lose his way.

Each souls hope of eternal life rests in his life here on Earth. But many cannot believe this, seeing it as an empty story to be laughed at - for the possessions of this life are too pleasant, and such pleasures grip the soul by the throat, holding it down to Earth. Our possessions possess us. We were not born with possessions, but acquired them later.
Everything a man uses to gratify his body is alien to his orignal god-like nature. Not only possessions - even the body is foreign to our true Self.

A soul with no inner vision is blind to God's Goodness - tossed by the sea of passions which the body breeds. What hungry predator has the power to maim the body as impurity does to mutilate the soul? Can't you see the torture that impure soul endures?

It shrieks: 'I am burning. I am on fire. I don't know what to say or do. I am devoured by the miseries that possess me.' Are not such cries the appeals of a soul in torment? Such a soul bears the body like a urden, as its master, not as its slave.

Hi Drifter;

If man's earthly life is controlled by the power of Destiny, then we don't have to feel guilty?

Best,

Pat

[Fluent Piffle]

It shrieks: 'I am burning. I am on fire. I don't know what to say or do. I am devoured by the miseries that possess me.' Are not such cries the appeals of a soul in torment?

Only the truly 'tormented one' would know...



pif.

[Drifter]

Tear off this cloak of shadows.
This web of ignorance.
These shackles of decay.
This living death.
This conscious corpse.
This portable tomb.
This robber in the house.
This enemy that hates all that you love.
Thsi garment that smothers you
and holds you down.
Ignorance floods the land.
Its currents sweep you away.
Don't be borne downstream.
Make use of the backflow.
Seek the haven of liberation.
Anchor there and find a guide
to lead you to the House of Knowledge.
There you will see with the heart,
the brilliant brightness.

Only the truly 'tormented one' would know...



pif.

[Fluent Piffle]

Tear off this cloak of shadows.
This web of ignorance.
These shackles of decay.
This living death.
This conscious corpse.
This portable tomb.
This robber in the house.
This enemy that hates all that you love.
Thsi garment that smothers you
and holds you down.
Ignorance floods the land.
Its currents sweep you away.
Don't be borne downstream.
Make use of the backflow.
Seek the haven of liberation.
Anchor there and find a guide
to lead you to the House of Knowledge.
There you will see with the heart,
the brilliant brightness.

Ya think?



pif.

[Drifter]

Every thought is an opportunity for choice.

Ya think?



pif.

[dipayankar]

I also think the Universe follows the probablistic model. There is a probability that an comet might hit the earth. It is not predetermined...

Hi Dipayankar;

To me the question is the universe deterministic or probabilistic.

If deterministic than everything has been preordained since the beginning. This would be the universe Einstein wanted, every course being able to be determined exactly.

Probabilistic of course means that probability theory surely is important in predicting outcomes but nothing is known for certain.

I favor the probabilistic model in that it allows for degrees of freedom and therefore allows for our own limited freedom. This implies I'm responsible for my own degree of freedom and consequently my actions.

What our your's and other members thoughts on this subject?

Best,

Pat

[Drifter]

Just as Jupiters gaseous state [hydrogen and helium] and gravitational pull in our outer logos[universe] intercepts meteorites as they come within the range of Jupiters gravity, the higher aspect of our soul acts as the protective big brother on the block for our wayward thoughts in the subtle universe of our mind or inner logos.
The microcosm is the refelection of the macrocosm.

I also think the Universe follows the probablistic model. There is a probability that an comet might hit the earth. It is not predetermined...

[Fluent Piffle]

Just as Jupiters gaseous state [hydrogen and helium] and gravitational pull in our outer logos[universe] intercepts meteorites as they come within the range of Jupiters gravity, the higher aspect of our soul acts as the protective big brother on the block for our wayward thoughts in the subtle universe of our mind or inner logos.
The microcosm is the refelection of the macrocosm.

Certainly, something seems to be drifting in a gaseous state!



g.

[Profpat]

Hi Drifter;

I'm still a little confused about your quote regarding destiny.

[quote=Drifter;44641]Man's earthly life is controlled by the power of Destiny,

For me following the definition of destiny:

des·ti·ny (dst-n) KEY

NOUN:
pl. des·ti·nies

1. The inevitable or necessary fate to which a particular person or thing is destined; one's lot.
2. A predetermined course of events considered as something beyond human power or control:
3. The power or agency thought to predetermine events:

Man would not be responsible for his destiny, which I personally don't believe. Could you clarify your thoughts on this? i.e. Is he or is he not responsible for his life?

Thanks,

Pat

[dipayankar]

Prof.. do you really believe in destiny...

[quote=Profpat;44903]Hi Drifter;

I'm still a little confused about your quote regarding destiny.

Man's earthly life is controlled by the power of Destiny,

For me following the definition of destiny:

des·ti·ny (dst-n) KEY

NOUN:
pl. des·ti·nies

1. The inevitable or necessary fate to which a particular person or thing is destined; one's lot.
2. A predetermined course of events considered as something beyond human power or control:
3. The power or agency thought to predetermine events:

Man would not be responsible for his destiny, which I personally don't believe. Could you clarify your thoughts on this? i.e. Is he or is he not responsible for his life?

Thanks,

Pat