It appears you are not part of the Quest yet. Click here to join us!

ToeQuest

A Quest for a Theory of Everything


Register

Reply

Grandmaster

Profpat's Avatar

Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,656
73 Profpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant future
Quote  
10-26-2007, 11:41 AM
Re: An Idea



Hi Benedict;

Thanks for the words of encouragement, and with the help of people like you and Drifter, maybe I'll have my Idea spruced up enough to present it to Witten, Geene, Gell-Mann & Co. ( My Dream, even if they laughed and rejected it. )

BTW I have accessed your translated AOS Theory, very interesting and I'll comment at your thread.

Best to you,

Pat
Reply With Quote
Profpat is offline
Grandmaster

Drifter's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,249
69 Drifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant future
Quote  
10-26-2007, 11:46 AM
Re: An Idea

The Gem In The Robe...�dedicated to those who challenge themselves daily to become great human beings. For "a great human revolution in the life of a single individual can transform the destiny of an entire society, and can make possible a change in the destiny of all humankind and the universe." (Daisaku Ikeda) For world peace to ever occur this revolution must take place in the hearts and minds of human beings.

I don't know if you saw this poem linked off my(Vicotr Kahn) author page:




THE MISSING LINK
It's not what you do, but what you think...the concept of purpose is the 'found' missing link.
Look toward the future is a place in your mind,�that attracts what is ready to be born into time.

Find what's important to prepare for the ride,�touching perfection ~ in something inside.

Thought is like magic, life is a blur...�a mind bending concept that's meant to occur.

Seeing the picture of how life ...it just flows,the balance and harmony we must all undergo.

Eye of the Eagle with the Heart of a Dove,opposite forces of the Power of Love.


�1998-2007 Victor Kahn & Jim Warren for The Great Illusion.com ~ Library of Congress copyright # TXU 909-102
Reply With Quote
Drifter is offline
Grandmaster

Profpat's Avatar

Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,656
73 Profpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant future
Quote  
10-26-2007, 12:15 PM
Re: An Idea

Hi Drifter;

First let me say I appreciate the banter, and agree with your posts.

I think I'm going to get a bit deeper and personal here, but this is my thread, and may be instrumental in understanding my Idea.

When I was 33 about 30 years ago, I was going through a divorce and very depressed, ( and at that time agnostic ).

I was at home alone, when I called my wife, who was now in another state with my children, that I was contemplating suicide.

She said " Pat I can't handle this " and hung up. ( a very wise woman ).

So I got my 9mm and went into the bedroom closet, and proceeded to cry like a baby.

When I existed the closet I EXPERIENCED the most incredible feeling of absolute and unconditional love for me personnaly.

I repented for the next 3 days, now recognizing that my family and friends and everything came to me through God's Love .

I was, and still am an asshole, but a bigger one then. I was so paranoid, stressed, and negative and then everything changed with the awareness of God's Love.

I give you this confession to let you know why I agree with the only way of really knowing something for certain is through God's grace or as you put it "the bounty of the holy spirit".

And so my Idea is just that, an Idea I came up with while searching for God, and I found Him everywhere.

My firm belief is that "God is Love and only Love is Real"

Best and keep up the banter,

Pat

P.S. The nuns told me that our purpose is to know, love and serve God, so we can be happy with him in Heaven. ( Heaven to me is here and now ). Pretty close to your Necessities HUH?
Reply With Quote
Profpat is offline
9th degree Black Belt

dipayankar's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,816
Blog Entries: 2
37 dipayankar is just really nicedipayankar is just really nice
Quote  
10-26-2007, 03:42 PM
Re: An Idea

One small question profpat.. What do you mean by 'Photon is a ghost particle'. I am of the opinion that photon carries energy and hence it is real.. 'Ghosts' are never real they are imaginary. Hence do you mean photons are imaginary??


Quote:
Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
My idea about the structure of atoms is stated in the attachment. Please take a look and let me know about your thoughts.
Reply With Quote
dipayankar is offline
Master

neutralino's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 782
16 neutralino is a jewel in the roughneutralino is a jewel in the rough

Awards Showcase
1st Place - Monthly Theme Quiz 
Total Awards: 1

Quote  
10-26-2007, 03:48 PM
Re: An Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
Hi Benedict;

Thanks for the words of encouragement, and with the help of people like you and Drifter, maybe I'll have my Idea spruced up enough to present it to Witten, Geene, Gell-Mann & Co. ( My Dream, even if they laughed and rejected it. )
To be honest with you, you will never get a professional scientist to read your paper unless it is written in the language of mathematics. Any theory of quantum gravity must pass all standard tests of gravity theories at least before it is even considered. Thus, a theory that is not written in mathematics cannot possibly stand up to these challenges.
Reply With Quote
neutralino is offline
Grandmaster

Drifter's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,249
69 Drifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant future
Quote  
10-26-2007, 04:02 PM
Re: An Idea

Very poingnant Sir,
and Thank you for sharing.
Nothing is coincedental, so they say:
I had at one time a .25 cal. sleeping pill at the ready,
realized ego would win -being the ultimate solution to the temporary problem-
and power won out over force.
"Empathy", I know not from where it comes, but I am thankful that it flows.
"Things aren't always what they seem."
Would Pantheism qualify as a womb with a view?
Spinoza might certainly agree, along with several millon other adherents, don't you think.

Bravo Profpat
*Namaste` Brother/Self

*"The Spirit within me Recognizes, Honors and Greets The Spirit with you"

aka; "The Utterly Trustworthy Parental Spirit", no room for two (ego) in Here"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
Hi Drifter;

First let me say I appreciate the banter, and agree with your posts.

I think I'm going to get a bit deeper and personal here, but this is my thread, and may be instrumental in understanding my Idea.

When I was 33 about 30 years ago, I was going through a divorce and very depressed, ( and at that time agnostic ).

I was at home alone, when I called my wife, who was now in another state with my children, that I was contemplating suicide.

She said " Pat I can't handle this " and hung up. ( a very wise woman ).

So I got my 9mm and went into the bedroom closet, and proceeded to cry like a baby.

When I existed the closet I EXPERIENCED the most incredible feeling of absolute and unconditional love for me personnaly.

I repented for the next 3 days, now recognizing that my family and friends and everything came to me through God's Love .

I was, and still am an asshole, but a bigger one then. I was so paranoid, stressed, and negative and then everything changed with the awareness of God's Love.

I give you this confession to let you know why I agree with the only way of really knowing something for certain is through God's grace or as you put it "the bounty of the holy spirit".

And so my Idea is just that, an Idea I came up with while searching for God, and I found Him everywhere.

My firm belief is that "God is Love and only Love is Real"

Best and keep up the banter,

Pat

P.S. The nuns told me that our purpose is to know, love and serve God, so we can be happy with him in Heaven. ( Heaven to me is here and now ). Pretty close to your Necessities HUH?
Reply With Quote
Drifter is offline
Grandmaster

Profpat's Avatar

Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,656
73 Profpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant futureProfpat has a brilliant future
Quote  
10-26-2007, 04:27 PM
Re: An Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by dipayankar View Post
One small question profpat.. What do you mean by 'Photon is a ghost particle'. I am of the opinion that photon carries energy and hence it is real.. 'Ghosts' are never real they are imaginary. Hence do you mean photons are imaginary??
I agree with you Dipayankar; it is real, it is energy, it is a two dimensional transverse wave. The reason why I called it a ghost particle is that it is created when matter is converted to energy. ( The Photon ).

A quick research on the internet yielded this;

A theory for gravitation has been presented based on the approach that gravity is the "aether wind" [10]. Gravity is related to mass and mass is related to light energy via the equation, E = mc2 [11-12]. Gravity can be modeled as a mass gradient and is shown to be inversely proportional to the emanation of light energy as a light gradient by the proportionality constant, žc2. In other words, light is basically a "hole" in the quantized aether that travels as a perturbation opposite the knocking action of the particles that comprise the medium. This is why light can be thought of as "the ghost of mass."

Please note the last sentence.

Thanks for the question and best to you,

Pat
Reply With Quote
Profpat is offline
Grandmaster

Drifter's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,249
69 Drifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant future
Quote  
10-26-2007, 04:28 PM
Re: An Idea

Package it, address it, and throw it up in the air.
If it comes back down, consider it "rejected!" =0)

sorry . . .
Reply With Quote
Drifter is offline
Grandmaster

Drifter's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,249
69 Drifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant future
Quote  
10-26-2007, 04:33 PM
Re: An Idea

I once met a man whom, when He spoke; Light emitted from his lips.

What do you think about that? =O)

sorry for being sorry
Reply With Quote
Drifter is offline
Grandmaster

Drifter's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,249
69 Drifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant futureDrifter has a brilliant future
Quote  
10-26-2007, 04:52 PM
Re: An Idea

Something for you Pofpat;

http://www.thegreatillusion.com/dreamwalker.html

Quote:
Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
Hi Drifter;

When I existed the closet I EXPERIENCED the most incredible feeling of absolute and unconditional love for me personnaly.

Pat

P.S. The nuns told me that our purpose is to know, love and serve God, so we can be happy with him in Heaven. ( Heaven to me is here and now ). Pretty close to your Necessities HUH?
We are our own destroyer and our own Savior Profpat.
Are you familiar with the Mundaka Upanishad Profpat?

"Like Two Golden Brids perched in the self-same tree,
the ego and the True Self, intimate and inseprable.

The former partakes of the-sweet-and-the-bitter fruits
of 'The Tree Of Life' while the later looks on, in
Deatchment."

Become your own "Best Father", you could ever dream of.

you can't go wrong in That.
Reply With Quote
Drifter is offline
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
An Idea that became a cosmos mkirkpatrick Metaphysics 657 01-05-2009 07:22 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:22 PM. Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 VBulletin Skin by ForumMonkeys.