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    Re: An Idea

    Hi gunnar;

    I did my best trying to give you and other members real world examples of a point particle 0 dimension (center of gravity), a 1 dimensional wave (gravitational force line), a 2 dimensional wave (field), a 3 dimensional particle (proton), a 4th dimensional particle (atom), and we need the void for the universe to expand.

    Using string theory I have been able to construct a model of the 3 quarks which make up the proton, representing both confinement and asymptotic freedom. Also suggesting the dynamics of the color force, which predicts gluons as force carriers.

    Using string theory I have a theory of dark energy (open strings) and dark matter (closed strings).

    Again no problem with the expansion.

    It's Mathematical, logical, simple, conceptual and physical.

    I defended my An Idea based on A Priori and Occam's Razor. It simply makes sense and is the simpliest way to describe our reality. I rest my case.

    Good luck on your quest.

    Best,

    Pat

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    Re: An Idea

    " dividing those who are fixated, delusional, stubborn, antagonistic... or just plain do not have the capacity to comprehend," gunnar

    Actually it's my delusional, ignorant, arrogance that makes me, me.

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    Re: An Idea

    Idea-file.pdf

    So I invite everybody to take a fresh look at my An Idea and to judge it based on it's content and not upon the messenger.

    Amendment to it:

    1) I believe there is such an electron.
    2) I believe there are gluons as force carriers only, not needed to bind the quarks.

    Thanks,

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    Re: An Idea

    What is nice is that you are your universe's center of gravity. ( I think we guys always knew that.)


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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrick View Post
    For me to understand what you are saying, can you please explain the FS better to me, Lloyd. I prefer it if you could use a minimum of conceptual words, and focus on actual entities (matter) and their actual characteristics (forces, etc). Otherwise I am looking at words and words only. Not to upset you, but I prefer to not see the word 'infinity' here, because I view it as of a similar magnitude as space. I already disagree with Pat on how to use that word correctly, and he and I have a peace agreement on that now, accepting the other as using and seeing that word as having a correct meaning to that person. This is a position Labelwench and I have been discussing also. As a matter of fact, there is a top position from which multiple positions are available (the single seat is empty, and whoever sits in it is god).
    Sorry Fredrick, but with the single seat empty, or filled by god/a god, I have nothing more to say to you... bye again...
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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    Hi gunnar;

    I did my best trying to give you and other members real world examples of a point particle 0 dimension (center of gravity), a 1 dimensional wave (gravitational force line), a 2 dimensional wave (field), a 3 dimensional particle (proton), a 4th dimensional particle (atom), and we need the void for the universe to expand.

    Using string theory I have been able to construct a model of the 3 quarks which make up the proton, representing both confinement and asymptotic freedom. Also suggesting the dynamics of the color force, which predicts gluons as force carriers.

    Using string theory I have a theory of dark energy (open strings) and dark matter (closed strings).

    Again no problem with the expansion.

    It's Mathematical, logical, simple, conceptual and physical.

    I defended my An Idea based on A Priori and Occam's Razor. It simply makes sense and is the simpliest way to describe our reality. I rest my case.

    Good luck on your quest.

    Best,

    Pat
    hi pat,

    your representation has been very helpful. the debates have been detailed enough to allow the recognition of what needed to be elaborated on, and has lead to useful new ways of expressing it. thank you for letting me tag along!

    gunnar

    p.s. i should not have gotten specific in statement with fixated, delusional, stubborn and antagonistic... as these are conditions of human beings in general (all of us). live and learn.

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    Re: An Idea

    Time and eternity don't and can't exist separately, as they be the same. Both science and meta-religions require eternity to make sense to either system, therefore; eternity being time, also requires infinity as its triadic requirement of scientific linguistics necessity of sameness__All three__Eternity = Time = Iinfinity__Absolute inseparability... It's just a scientific logically quantifiable fact. It just must be nobody's ever thought them all three at once__They're triplets, and even all the newest string theories, by way of emergence are accepting eternity, so now everybody seems to be unknowingly accepting the triadic mentioned. It'd be nice if they'd all start looking at their own ideas__Honestly...

    Quote Originally Posted by SB_UK View Post
    The big bang event heralded the beginning of time
    (the Universal time-line)

    - where time (the imaginary domain) (1 dimension) is tied to space (time as the immediate precursor to space (2 dimensions)).

    Space-time being required to self-assemble into the topology of the Poincaré sphere as the first requirement in constructing what we call reality.

    Though where the twinned (dual) constructs of time and space here represent a re-structuring of only a slice of the infinite space:time matrix; only a slice of the infinitely extending matrix is structured (synchronized)
    - to generate structure.

    As such - the only parts of this matrix which we are synchronized to (which we may derive coherence from) -
    - will be the structures which're formed along that time-line.

    The time-line consists of an array of structures, which as complex structures comprise an imaginary feed into real component.

    Time
    seeds
    Space
    [the standing wave balances]

    At which point
    imaginary
    has seeded
    real
    [the complex (emergent) structure is complete].

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    "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
    "The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.

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    Re: An Idea

    eternity (time)reality
    ||||||||||||||||| |
    eternity (time) -/ \_infinity (space)
    eternity (time)_/
    ->---
    ||||||||||||||||
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    eternity (timreality


    ... ... ... at (both) lowest and highest possible levels (as does it apply in the levels in between).

    Structured reality folds from enforced evolutionary transition (to a fixed ascending geometry of Trinity, 3)
    Quote Originally Posted by @@@
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    in this unstructured (pre-Poincaré sphere, pre-polarized (synchronized) photon) Matrix.
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    Time (Adam,male) (sternum,body of moth)
    Space (Eve,female) (ribs proper,wings)

    Quantum wave collapse from the time-line (1 dimension) giving rise

    '... ... from Adam's rib ... ...'

    to a specific duality (2 spatial dimensions).

    Eversion [IMAGE LINK] as soon as the geometric duality between Time and Space is complete
    - the novel emergent structure as Neutrality ... ... [time,gravity as unidirectional,unipolar] ... ... prior to higher polarity (~for instance~ Electro-Magnetism) beseeched.

    ~*~

    pH neutrality -

    ... ... we're freed from the onerous need to eat ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who
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    pH delta zer0
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    No beginning < — Eternity of Time/FS —> No End

    Planck scale < — Potential Infinity of Space/Movement —> No limit

    — > Light —> Speed limit





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