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[Profpat]

Yeah, and how many Universes from one impact??? 1, 2, 3..... infinite??? How much of energy would be required for infinite creation?? Would our laws of physics hold there?? and why??

Hi Dipayankar;

Some great thoughts there.

If there were multiple universes I would think the laws would be the same.

The foundation of our universe is so elegantly simple; Based on two forces ( Gravity/EMR ), ( Repulsion/Attraction ), ( Action/Reaction ), ( Yin/Yang ); and yet it becomes so magnificently complex, the ability to see, hear, smell, taste, and touch our reality. The ability to be aware of all of this. From protons to galaxies, all based on two forces. I find it all amazing.

If there are other universes out there it would be my guess they would be built on our wonderful model.

Can you imagine anything more simple, or more grand?

Best to you,

Pat

[Profpat]

Hi Everyone;

I forgot to mention ( Positive/Negative ), and ( Opposites attract/Like kind repel ). I think if we start with the beginning foundations of our universe, we might better understand it as it now exist.

Best to all,

Pat

[dipayankar]

Well maybe at the subatomic level, gravity isn't attractive. (Just a gut feel)..

Hi Dipayankar;

Some great thoughts there.

If there were multiple universes I would think the laws would be the same.

The foundation of our universe is so elegantly simple; Based on two forces ( Gravity/EMR ), ( Repulsion/Attraction ), ( Action/Reaction ), ( Yin/Yang ); and yet it becomes so magnificently complex, the ability to see, hear, smell, taste, and touch our reality. The ability to be aware of all of this. From protons to galaxies, all based on two forces. I find it all amazing.

If there are other universes out there it would be my guess they would be built on our wonderful model.

Can you imagine anything more simple, or more grand?

Best to you,

Pat

[Profpat]

I don't know Dipayankar, you may be right, but it appears dark matter clusters around glaxies and do appear to have gravity. I may be wrong but I thought dark matter may be quarks, ( subatomic particles ), which didn't become protons.

Best,

Pat

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[N0B0DY]

Yeah, and how many Universes from one impact??? 1, 2, 3..... infinite??? How much of energy would be required for infinite creation?? Would our laws of physics hold there?? and why??

If we consider the implications of the fractal geometry found in nature, the laws would necessarily be required to hold at an infinite number of scales in the case of perfect replication, and an infinite amount of energy would be required to create an infinite number of universes.

The implications could also explain the cause for mutation and hence evolution in the case of imperfect replication, but the laws would have to vary I would think in order to produce the random shapes. And this would only apply to isolated finite systems, not to a scenario where an infinite number of universes exist within each other.

[dipayankar]

Which means they will have to interact with neutrinos...

I don't know Dipayankar, you may be right, but it appears dark matter clusters around glaxies and do appear to have gravity. I may be wrong but I thought dark matter may be quarks, ( subatomic particles ), which didn't become protons.

Best,

Pat

[dipayankar]

Why finite number of Universes? Is Energy finite in the system? IS ENERGY BEING CREATED IN OTHER UNIVERSES with different physical laws???

If we consider the implications of the fractal geometry found in nature, the laws would necessarily be required to hold at an infinite number of scales in the case of perfect replication, and an infinite amount of energy would be required to create an infinite number of universes.

The implications could also explain the cause for mutation and hence evolution in the case of imperfect replication, but the laws would have to vary I would think in order to produce the random shapes. And this would only apply to isolated finite systems, not to a scenario where an infinite number of universes exist within each other.

[N0B0DY]

I said isolated finite systems, Dip, not a finite number of universes. An observable universe, not an unobservable infinity, could then be conceived as originating in a big bang and evolving for a finite time.

As I understand it, all laws break down at the singularity of the finite system; whereas an infinite system wouldn't change at all - relative density wouldn't increase at all.

[michael]

Hi Profpat,

i am very new to this group and am very busy setting up my coms hwoever i have had a quick browse of you post. There are some very interesting notions there that i would like to understand iun due course

kind regards

michael