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    Re: An Idea

    Ether or Aether
    Ether ("upper air"), in Greek mythology, was the personification of the "upper sky", space and heaven. He is the pure, upper air that the gods breathe, as opposed to "aer", which mortals breathed. In Hesiod's Theogony he was the son of Erebus and Nyx, and brother of Hemera, both noted in passing in Cicero's De Natura deorum. He is the soul of the world and all life emanates from him. The aether was also known as Zeus' defensive wall; the bound that locked Tartaros from the cosmos.

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger View Post
    Hi Mikal

    We once had a 'luminiferous aether' but then a group of influential scientists decided, based on the falacious interpretation of physical experiments, that it could not exist. Mentioning 'the aether' then became equivalent to commiting professional suicide for any self respecting scientist. However, there are many aspects of physics that require some sort of 'background' for them to have a rational explanation so we have invented all sorts of alternative titles, the commonest of which is Einstein's 'spacetime'. String theory is 'background dependent' but the term 'aether' is never mentioned in that context.

    The vacuum energy is the physical manifestation of the aether though not the aether itself. If we look for possible links between the physical world and the metaphysical then you need something to underlie our real world to provide such a framework. For me, the aether provides the link between them being, in religious terms, an aspect of Brahma.

    Why do I use the term 'aether' whilst most on this site say 'ether'. Well as we are writing in English, I prefer the proper spelling being a grammar school cat. 'Ether' is a colourless organic liquid used as an anaesthetic.


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    Hi Felix, thanks for straightening that out. I am beginning to understand this professional suicide you speak of and isn’t investigation really tightly controlled as per the world view that is being set into a direction??

    Look at Haisch musing about God….he states…

    “Imagine a God of infinite potential thinking. Hmm….infinite potentials #43, #645m, #2146 and #10466 worked pretty well together as laws of nature to make that Category 6A universe the last time around. That universe was pretty interesting to experience. I think I’ll substitute Infinite potential #46 for #43 and add a little of potential #6881 this time around and make myself a Category 6B universe.
    Now imagine that infinite potential #43 is the property of time, #645 is the property of three-dimensional space, #2146 is the speed of light, #10466 is the value of Planks constant.”…….combinations in a certain way in this particular created universe in which we live, but may not be essential elements or foundations of other created universes.”

    Viola!! A good sense of esoteric wisdom as it held that the origin of creation lies in God’s desire to actualize potential…

    I love it…pure innovation…pure genius!!!....off to work now...

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    Re: An Idea

    Thanks for your post Mikal. It gets me wondering about universal constants and whether it is an intelligently designed or random universe. Our intelligence has certainly spotted design pattern and/or laws. So here is a question: Is the Tao aware?

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    Re: An Idea

    The relation between vibration and geometry is beautifully described by the work of Swiss medical doctor and natural scientist Hans Jenny (1904-1972) in a science called ’Cymatics’.

    Dr. Hans Jenny’s ‘Cymatics’ research, vibration of a fluid
    with colloid showing a star-tetrahedron
    The late Buckminster Fuller (1895 - 1983) however was the first to discover that a relation between musical frequencies (The Diatonic scale) and geometrical forms exists. He used a balloon submerged in blue dye and vibrated it with frequencies from the musical scale (the 7 white keys from the piano): as a result of wave interference, marvellous two dimensional arrangements appeared on its surface.
    Dr. Hans Jenny carried on the work of Buckminster Fuller and tested these standing wave vibrations in spherical volumes of fluid. Much to his surprise all of the Platonic solids, named after the legendary philosopher Plato, showed up as geometrical patterns. What you see in the picture
    above is a star-tetrahedron; If you examine the picture carefully you may have noticed the two equilateral triangles, one facing up and one facing down. Together they form a symbol that is known as the Jewish Star of David, but remember in 3D reality the two triangles are tetrahedrons, three sided pyramids.

    Long Live music and color. It may be time to leave the given of the Tao and move to the dynamics of color, music (vibrations), and the I Ching.


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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    I believe it can be spelled either way Felix.
    Either or either?
    And woe to us if, blinded by illusions,
    We detach ourselves from the dancing cosmos,
    This universal harmony.......Ruth Peel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikal View Post
    “Imagine a God of infinite potential thinking. Hmm….infinite potentials #43, #645m, #2146 and #10466 worked pretty well together as laws of nature to make that Category 6A universe the last time around. That universe was pretty interesting to experience. I think I’ll substitute Infinite potential #46 for #43 and add a little of potential #6881 this time around and make myself a Category 6B universe.
    Very strange, Mikal, that you should post that just as I've been musing along similar lines. My current thinking is that the formation of the celestial bodies is brought about, not by variations in the gravitational field but by variations in the vacuum energy. If you have a sheet of paper with iron filings on it, you can make patterns by moving a magnet under the paper. The planets, stars and other celestial bodies have so much beauty and variety that it's hard to imagine there is no thing behind them?

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    We detach ourselves from the dancing cosmos,
    This universal harmony.......Ruth Peel

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    Newtonian physicists postulated ether as the medium that transmitted electromagnetic waves

    But then it was found that e/m was a self-regenerating wave.

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    Segno (Sign) # 5

    “There’s the aether”, replied the other, apace,
    “The 5th state, one that pervades all of space,
    Yet there are no signposts of it up ahead,
    Or anywhere, since it’s in every stead.

    “We regard it as the stuff of which Gods are made,
    That lively spirit of elixir that their nature bade,
    For, just as all mortal creatures inhale the air,
    So do immortal and divine natures inhale the aether.”

    “The intimation is the mark of their manifestation,
    A demonstration and a token of the evidencention—
    The aetheric and heavenly sign of things to come,
    Both the portent of the miracle and its omen.

    “It is of the warning and the notice let,
    Presaging both the promise and the threat.
    Of this sign the aether follows, the gesture beckons;
    ‘Tis the signal, the wave and gesticulation reckoned.

    “We can read the writing in the sky, the marquee,
    Daubed with symbols marking the cipher free,
    With characters, figures, and hieroglyphs of time,
    The ideogram of the rune, the emblem of the Divine.”

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    Thanks for your post Mikal. It gets me wondering about universal constants and whether it is an intelligently designed or random universe. Our intelligence has certainly spotted design pattern and/or laws. So here is a question: Is the Tao aware?
    Hi Prof...as far as the universe being intelligently designed did you ever read Sir Martin Rees "Just Six Numbers" and how certain key physical constants are just right for permitting us to exist in this universe? He did discuss special "tuning"....

    The Tao is a symbol and as it says in the Gospel of Phillip...the human psyche enters the world through images and symbols...it therefore would be very alive with meaning...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger View Post
    Very strange, Mikal, that you should post that just as I've been musing along similar lines. My current thinking is that the formation of the celestial bodies is brought about, not by variations in the gravitational field but by variations in the vacuum energy. If you have a sheet of paper with iron filings on it, you can make patterns by moving a magnet under the paper. The planets, stars and other celestial bodies have so much beauty and variety that it's hard to imagine there is no thing behind them?

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    Glad you enjoyed that....I did!!

    Regards Mikal
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