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    Re: An Idea - The need for the Aether

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    You are right on with your assessment of the mess of science today.
    But I also see that your focus or certainty of it's cause is still somewhat vague.Perhaps this will help.You see that by removing the aether mankind or science has removed the unity that holds the universe together. And that furthermore you believe gravity is that missing link. Am I right about you?
    Hi MJ

    I am saying that the rejection of the 'aether' concept or backgroung dependency is the main source of the problem with physics today. Futhermore, we do not have to look very far to find what the underlying structure actually is. There are enough clues out there already and my own feeling is that it is the 'gravitational field' (not just 'gravity' which is the effect of bending of the field in the presence of mass) that provides the basic structure. This has to take on-board such issues as Higgs and String Theory but that's for another day?

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    Re: An Idea - the helium atom

    Quote Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger View Post
    Hi Profpat

    Sorry for the delay but I had not addressed the strong force wrt the helium nucleus. A possible configuration is attached but this bears a lot more resemblance to my face than yours!

    Please don't ask about the electron as I have not configured that yet.

    all the best

    Felix

    PS - regards to your grandson, who obviously takes after his grandaddy, but he still has too little fur on his face.
    That could work Felix. I'm not that familiar with the Higgs Boson, except that it's a necessary hypothetical particle required by the standard model. I believe there are theories that try to address, or replace, the need for a Higgs Boson by introducing concepts called technicoloror and top color, but I'm not that familiar with those ideas either.

    It does appear that your concept could explain the strong nuclear force. In your theory is the weak nuclear force tied into the strong force?

    As I previously stated I lumped both of them as manisfestation of the electro/magnetic force.

    Best to you Felix,

    Pat

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    Re: An Idea - the weak force

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat;46278[SIZE=2
    It does appear that your concept could explain the strong nuclear force. In your theory is the weak nuclear force tied into the strong force?Pat
    Hi Pat

    No, the weak force is completely different and I have a model in my head for it but it's not yet fully formulated. All of the forces relate to E/M but in different ways - that's why they exhibit different effects.

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    Re: An Idea

    Well keep on working on it Felix. I speculate that all forces are either attractive or repulsive. This is more evident at the E/M level where we can see that like kind repel and opposites attract. I believe this to be true with gravity and gamma rays. It's my thought that black holes are like a miny big bang. When it's fully compressed it explodes into a Quasar, ( gamma radiation ).

    Please keep me informed of your progress and ideas which are most interesting. Including weak nuclear and gravity.

    Best to you sir,

    Pat
    Last edited by Profpat; 02-03-2008 at 05:44 PM. Reason: added words

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    Re: An Idea

    So if they have mass, is it enough for them to interact with the quarks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    Neutrinos may have mass Dipayankar;


    Neutrino Mass?

    No definite mass has been measured for the neutrino, and the standard comment about most experiments is "the results are consistent with zero mass for the neutrino". But this raises certain theoretical problems and there have been many attempts to set a range for the mass of the neutrino. Since its mass is evidently very small, if non-zero, the mass is usually stated in terms of its energy equivalent in electron volts. Most experiments conclude that the mass equivalent of the neutrino is less than 50 eV.

    For the most part they were created at the "Big Bang"
    though they are created today from nuclear reactions.

    Best,

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by dipayankar View Post
    So if they have mass, is it enough for them to interact with the quarks?
    Hi Dipayankar;

    I don't know for sure but I doubt it.
    Neutrinos go right through you and I and the Earth with very little interactions. All of which are made up of protons and neutrons ( quarks ). So they may but not too much, would be my guess.

    Best to you,

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    Re: An Idea

    I would certainly tilt towards them interacting with either leptons, bosons or both. Somehow an extremely begign particles does not seem real to me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    Hi Dipayankar;

    I don't know for sure but I doubt it.
    Neutrinos go right through you and I and the Earth with very little interactions. All of which are made up of protons and neutrons ( quarks ). So they may but not too much, would be my guess.

    Best to you,

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    Re: An Idea

    There indeed may be some interaction in that they are able to capture a few in a huge amount of water.
    They don't appear to be very interactive however.

    Best,

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    Re: An Idea

    I am of the opinion that yes they need to interact with some kind of matter / energy. Even if not conventional as we know. And if they do with some other form of matter / energy, then it could change particle physics drastically..

    What say Prof??

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    There indeed may be some interaction in that they are able to capture a few in a huge amount of water.
    They don't appear to be very interactive however.

    Best,

    Pat


 

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