An Idea

[dipayankar]

Great work Prof. These exotic particles are sometimes just proposed to satisfy someones ideas. They may not exist in reality.

You're right Dipayankar it doesn't.

In fact I eminated the 8 gluons from my Idea. I didn't need them. The 8 colors can all be represented on the quark areas directly. And I didn't need the gluons to bind the 3 quarks. I did it by superposing and interweaving them.

Best to you,

Pat

[Felix Schrodinger]

I think the gaps you've omitted can serve as the basis for quantum gravity, Felix. If there were no gaps they wouldn't be called planck lengths, and we can use these gaps to set the cumulative gravitational effect of planck mass which results in the "c" constant.

Sorry Nobody, it's not like that. The Planck length is not an object - it does not exist and therefore has no gaps. It is simply the shortest measurement that you can make and is fundamental to QM but not part of the structure.

I have a suspicion that there is something wrong with the Planck mass as it's many orders of magnitude bigger than common sense would suggest from the size of the other Planck units.

Felix

[Felix Schrodinger]

Hi everyone: I saw a great one minute video at ( 7 wonders of the world.wmv ) Sorry I couldn't url it. You'll be able to find it if you do a search for the above.

Best to all,

Pat

Loved it Pat - in spite of the propaganda

[dipayankar]

Plank length does provide us with a limitation. But if we believe in string theory, then would a string be longer than a Plank Length? If yes, then there might be something else smaller than a string and hence more fundamental..

Sorry Nobody, it's not like that. The Planck length is not an object - it does not exist and therefore has no gaps. It is simply the shortest measurement that you can make and is fundamental to QM but not part of the structure.

I have a suspicion that there is something wrong with the Planck mass as it's many orders of magnitude bigger than common sense would suggest from the size of the other Planck units.

Felix

[Profpat]

Loved it Pat - in spite of the propaganda

Sorry about the propaganda Felix, but like you, I liked it anyways.

Best to you,

Pat

[N0B0DY]

Sorry Nobody, it's not like that. The Planck length is not an object - it does not exist and therefore has no gaps. It is simply the shortest measurement that you can make and is fundamental to QM but not part of the structure.

I have a suspicion that there is something wrong with the Planck mass as it's many orders of magnitude bigger than common sense would suggest from the size of the other Planck units.

We had a saying at SLAC, "If it doesn't fit, force it." Perhaps bosonic acceleration has something to do with the mass.

As for planck, I concede what you mean, but would 1.6 × 10−100 not constitute a similar theoretically-extended non-existent measurement?

[N0B0DY]

Plank length does provide us with a limitation. But if we believe in string theory, then would a string be longer than a Plank Length? If yes, then there might be something else smaller than a string and hence more fundamental..

Like a point particle? I think our new member, "Wick", has much to say about hyperplaning that can benefit Pat in his endeavor.

[Profpat]

Great work Prof. These exotic particles are sometimes just proposed to satisfy someones ideas. They may not exist in reality.

Thanks Dipayankar;

Now if I could do the same with neutrinos. But neutrinos may actually exist. Thanks to you I haven't given up on them in fact I'm beginning to equate them with strings since there is little to no interactions and little to no mass. Same characteristics for both.

BTW: Dealing with length of strings, they are still theoritical particles and of theoritical length ( planck length )

From Wiki:

The basic idea is that the fundamental constituents of reality are strings of the Planck length (about 10−35 m) which vibrate at resonant frequencies. Every string in theory has a unique resonance, or harmonic. Different harmonics determine different fundamental forces. The tension in a string is on the order of the Planck force (1044 newtons).

Best,

Pat

[Felix Schrodinger]

Plank length does provide us with a limitation. But if we believe in string theory, then would a string be longer than a Plank Length? If yes, then there might be something else smaller than a string and hence more fundamental..

Yes Dippy, a string is many, many times longer than the PL and must, indeed, have a structure consisting of something even more fundamental. The PL is about 10^-33 and the quarks/strings exist at about 10^-18 so there's plenty of detail to play with. My hope would be that the string is made of one fundamental 'substance' and the only variation is the length.

The current problem with 'string theory' is that they are trying to make the strings move through space and are endlessly seeking equations to describe this. If the strings don't move then everything is much easier to describe.

[Felix Schrodinger]

As for planck, I concede what you mean, but would 1.6 × 10−100 not constitute a similar theoretically-extended non-existent measurement?

Probably! (but why 1.6, why not 1.4?)