[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Drifter Here is one mans story who fought for his belief. http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...+He+Right%253F 45 mins but worth it. How many of us would recognise a Light of Truth, if it graced us?

Drifter I would never fight for my belief. Die for it maybe.

Best,

Pat

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by Profpat Drifter I would never fight for my belief. Die for it maybe. Best, Pat

never give up, without a fight

they'll have my sword when they wrech from my cold dead hand

http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database...ew.pl?id=54463



=O)

[Drifter]

Haven't read The Bhagivad Gita Profpat.
"The battle is an internal one Arjuna".
Higher Self(Truth/Light) to Ego(ambiguity).

Originally Posted by Drifter never give up, without a fight they'll have my sword when they wrech from my cold dead hand http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database...ew.pl?id=54463 =O)

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by Drifter Haven't read The Bhagivad Gita Profpat. "The battle is an internal one Arjuna". Higher Self(Truth/Light) to Ego(ambiguity).

Thars GOLD n them thar Hills, Profpat. =O)

[Profpat]

I wouldn't give up my belief, Drifter.

I think there are 3 choices FIGHT FLIGHT or FREEZE.

Best,

Pat

P.S. The Tao, Gita and Upanishads are 3 of my favorites. I also like the Bible.

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by Profpat I wouldn't give up my belief, Drifter. I think there are 3 choices FIGHT FLIGHT or FREEZE. Best, Pat P.S. The Tao, Gita and Upanishads are 3 of my favorites. I also like the Bible.

Mine too, which "Gita" in particular? (there really all one ya know, in what ever script, in whatever lexicon or epoch)
btw, The Baghavad Gita is considered The Pearl of the Orient.
but I like them all.

as for the three choices they all involve action, except when The Buddha enters the ring, then everything subsides, the contest is over and Peace reigns.

He is know as The Awakened One. Non Duality.

"I" fell in to a burnin ring of fire . . . -JC

and "I" was no more. -Drifter

[Drifter]

You probably know this but "Gitas" means hymms.
or prayers, or meditations, not like the western mind thinks of them though.
When serious disciples call upon the holy ghost they don't pussy-foot around about it, like the pentecostals, they put everything into it to get the most out of it. stauchy types others look down upon this because they're so concerned how it appears to others and in reality true seekers can only become finders when they finally lose(let go of), such attachments completely, it's also know as, not to sound nihilistic because its way beyond nihilism, the annihilation of the self(ego).

Warm Regards Profpat
(let go an let God)

Originally Posted by Drifter Mine too, which "Gita" in particular? (there really all one ya know, in what ever script, in whatever lexicon or epoch) btw, The Baghavad Gita is considered The Pearl of the Orient. but I like them all. as for the three choices they all involve action, except when The Buddha enters the ring, then everything subsides, the contest is over and Peace reigns. He is know as The Awakened One. Non Duality. "I" fell in to a burnin ring of fire . . . -JC and "I" was no more. -Drifter

[dipayankar]

That's good 'The ghost of the mass'. Another silly question, Why does not EM waves require medium to travel? if photon is energy and does not have mass, it should require a medium like ether to travel. But we know ether does not exist...

Originally Posted by Profpat I agree with you Dipayankar; it is real, it is energy, it is a two dimensional transverse wave. The reason why I called it a ghost particle is that it is created when matter is converted to energy. ( The Photon ). A quick research on the internet yielded this; A theory for gravitation has been presented based on the approach that gravity is the "aether wind" [10]. Gravity is related to mass and mass is related to light energy via the equation, E = mc2 [11-12]. Gravity can be modeled as a mass gradient and is shown to be inversely proportional to the emanation of light energy as a light gradient by the proportionality constant, žc2. In other words, light is basically a "hole" in the quantized aether that travels as a perturbation opposite the knocking action of the particles that comprise the medium. This is why light can be thought of as "the ghost of mass." Please note the last sentence. Thanks for the question and best to you, Pat

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by dipayankar That's good 'The ghost of the mass'. Another silly question, Why does not EM waves require medium to travel? if photon is energy and does not have mass, it should require a medium like ether to travel. But we know ether does not exist...

Hi Dirayankar;

One Einstein said it wasn't needed, later rethought his idea and concluded there was a form of ether, throughout space. Be it gravitational waves, electromagnetic fields, etc.

"We assume to find in every point of space a flow in all directions of radiant energy from all astrophysical objects, meaning that space everywhere has a specific energy U [erg] and an energy density u = U/V [erg/cm³], which of course is a local variable depending on the position in space".
"The radiant energy will we name the "Aether", and since it is present throughout the Universe, we will call space the "Aether-Space". Presuming the aether the medium sustaining all physical fields and forces, the aether-space is the universal physical space".

Best to all,

Pat

P.S. Drifter my Bhagavad-Gita was published by The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust

[Drifter]

Translation is key Profpat, and understanding is freedom,

While not familiar with this specific one, all point to the same Oneness and Universality.

It is therefore self evident your vested interest in the meta-physical.

You desire to know the nuts and bolts of things.

What you may be looking for may be found, if it is proper to so say,

in "Letters on Occult Meditation" from Lucis Trust by Alice A. Bailey.

You have too much invested to turn back now.

Namaste`

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Dirayankar; One Einstein said it wasn't needed, later rethought his idea and concluded there was a form of ether, throughout space. Be it gravitational waves, electromagnetic fields, etc. "We assume to find in every point of space a flow in all directions of radiant energy from all astrophysical objects, meaning that space everywhere has a specific energy U [erg] and an energy density u = U/V [erg/cm³], which of course is a local variable depending on the position in space". "The radiant energy will we name the "Aether", and since it is present throughout the Universe, we will call space the "Aether-Space". Presuming the aether the medium sustaining all physical fields and forces, the aether-space is the universal physical space". Best to all, Pat P.S. Drifter my Bhagavad-Gita was published by The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust