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I wouldn't give up my belief, Drifter.

I think there are 3 choices FIGHT FLIGHT or FREEZE.

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P.S. The Tao, Gita and Upanishads are 3 of my favorites. I also like the Bible.
Mine too, which "Gita" in particular? (there really all one ya know, in what ever script, in whatever lexicon or epoch)
btw, The Baghavad Gita is considered The Pearl of the Orient.
but I like them all.

as for the three choices they all involve action, except when The Buddha enters the ring, then everything subsides, the contest is over and Peace reigns.

He is know as The Awakened One. Non Duality.

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You probably know this but "Gitas" means hymms.
or prayers, or meditations, not like the western mind thinks of them though.
When serious disciples call upon the holy ghost they don't pussy-foot around about it, like the pentecostals, they put everything into it to get the most out of it. stauchy types others look down upon this because they're so concerned how it appears to others and in reality true seekers can only become finders when they finally lose(let go of), such attachments completely, it's also know as, not to sound nihilistic because its way beyond nihilism, the annihilation of the self(ego).

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Mine too, which "Gita" in particular? (there really all one ya know, in what ever script, in whatever lexicon or epoch)
btw, The Baghavad Gita is considered The Pearl of the Orient.
but I like them all.

as for the three choices they all involve action, except when The Buddha enters the ring, then everything subsides, the contest is over and Peace reigns.

He is know as The Awakened One. Non Duality.

"I" fell in to a burnin ring of fire . . . -JC

and "I" was no more. -Drifter
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That's good 'The ghost of the mass'. Another silly question, Why does not EM waves require medium to travel? if photon is energy and does not have mass, it should require a medium like ether to travel. But we know ether does not exist...


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I agree with you Dipayankar; it is real, it is energy, it is a two dimensional transverse wave. The reason why I called it a ghost particle is that it is created when matter is converted to energy. ( The Photon ).

A quick research on the internet yielded this;

A theory for gravitation has been presented based on the approach that gravity is the "aether wind" [10]. Gravity is related to mass and mass is related to light energy via the equation, E = mc2 [11-12]. Gravity can be modeled as a mass gradient and is shown to be inversely proportional to the emanation of light energy as a light gradient by the proportionality constant, žc2. In other words, light is basically a "hole" in the quantized aether that travels as a perturbation opposite the knocking action of the particles that comprise the medium. This is why light can be thought of as "the ghost of mass."

Please note the last sentence.

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That's good 'The ghost of the mass'. Another silly question, Why does not EM waves require medium to travel? if photon is energy and does not have mass, it should require a medium like ether to travel. But we know ether does not exist...
Hi Dirayankar;

One Einstein said it wasn't needed, later rethought his idea and concluded there was a form of ether, throughout space. Be it gravitational waves, electromagnetic fields, etc.

"We assume to find in every point of space a flow in all directions of radiant energy from all astrophysical objects, meaning that space everywhere has a specific energy U [erg] and an energy density u = U/V [erg/cm³], which of course is a local variable depending on the position in space".
"The radiant energy will we name the "Aether", and since it is present throughout the Universe, we will call space the "Aether-Space". Presuming the aether the medium sustaining all physical fields and forces, the aether-space is the universal physical space".

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Translation is key Profpat, and understanding is freedom,

While not familiar with this specific one, all point to the same Oneness and Universality.

It is therefore self evident your vested interest in the meta-physical.

You desire to know the nuts and bolts of things.

What you may be looking for may be found, if it is proper to so say,

in "Letters on Occult Meditation" from Lucis Trust by Alice A. Bailey.

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Hi Dirayankar;

One Einstein said it wasn't needed, later rethought his idea and concluded there was a form of ether, throughout space. Be it gravitational waves, electromagnetic fields, etc.

"We assume to find in every point of space a flow in all directions of radiant energy from all astrophysical objects, meaning that space everywhere has a specific energy U [erg] and an energy density u = U/V [erg/cm³], which of course is a local variable depending on the position in space".
"The radiant energy will we name the "Aether", and since it is present throughout the Universe, we will call space the "Aether-Space". Presuming the aether the medium sustaining all physical fields and forces, the aether-space is the universal physical space".

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the Aether you speak of is The Fount of Ambrosia aka the "Stream of Consciousness" by which channel or currency, knowledge is intuitively in-traversed.

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So energy does need some sort of medium to flow.... I thought so...



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Hi Dirayankar;

One Einstein said it wasn't needed, later rethought his idea and concluded there was a form of ether, throughout space. Be it gravitational waves, electromagnetic fields, etc.

"We assume to find in every point of space a flow in all directions of radiant energy from all astrophysical objects, meaning that space everywhere has a specific energy U [erg] and an energy density u = U/V [erg/cm³], which of course is a local variable depending on the position in space".
"The radiant energy will we name the "Aether", and since it is present throughout the Universe, we will call space the "Aether-Space". Presuming the aether the medium sustaining all physical fields and forces, the aether-space is the universal physical space".

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What compels a static charge "to jump", or become attracted?
relativity, nature?
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From: A Key To The Universe

"The Universe and Dr. Einstein", A Mentor Book by Lincoln Barnett

"Today most newspaper readers know vaguely that Einstein had something to do with the atomic bomb; beyond that his name is simply a syninym for the abtruse . . . even many a college graduate . . . does not know that Relativity over and above its scientific import, comprises a major philosophical system which augments and illumines the reflections of Locke, Berkeley and Hume. Consequently, he has very little notion of the vast, arcane, and mysteriously ordered universe in which he dwells."

Frequently called an atheist by those who have failed to grasp the meaning of his philosophy, Einstein himself is strongly convinced of the creation of the universe by a Supreme Intelligence. He says, "The most beautiful and most profound 'emot-'ion we can experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the power of all true science . . . To know that what is impenetrable to us actually exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiante beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms---this knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religiousness." ---Albert Einstein

Gravitation and electromagnetism or Einsteins Unified Field Theory extrapolated while professor emeritus at the institute for Advanced Study at Princeton, and a problem which baffled him for mearly a quarter century, appears at last, to have been solved.

"Electricity and magnetism may be considered as a single force."

from here one may proceed to "POWER VS FORCE", David R. Hawkins

Speaking of "Powere vs. Force"; "Perhaps the most important and signficant book I've read in the past ten years." ---Dr. Wayne W. Dyer, author of "Inner Peace"

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