[dipayankar]

So in essense are you going back to the Big Bang Nobody?

Originally Posted by N0B0DY Felix, I'm sure you're aware of the theoretical basis for constants, but the point is they are renormalized. So I would revert to: "I must say that I am very dissatisfied with the situation, because this so called good theory does involve neglecting infinities which appear in its equations, neglecting them in an arbitrary way. This is just not sensible mathematics. Sensible mathematics involves neglecting a quantity when it turns out to be small - not neglecting it just because it is infinitely great and you do not want it!" (Paul Dirac: On Quantum Mechanics and Mathematics) Dip, The point particle is t=0 and carries throughout any and all arbitrary measurements extending to strings and membranes. So, essentially, the point particle - and for the above reason, all dimensions - have no reality until observed, intepreted, and categorized as such.

[Profpat]

Hi Dipayankar;

I forgot do you believe in the big bang?

I know you don't like the idea of strings or religion, but I forgot about what you thought about the " Big Bang " theory.

Best,

Pat

[N0B0DY]

Originally Posted by dipayankar So in essense are you going back to the Big Bang Nobody?

In a relative sense, yes, as any and all events are essentially banging into existence as variable magnitudes; in the absolute sense, no, because any and all events can never occur.

The t=0 state is representative of nonexistence and is changeless. So to give us our observable changes, we require multiple zero points which connect as time.

[dipayankar]

Big Bank well. At least the CMB points towards the Big Bang..

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Dipayankar; I forgot do you believe in the big bang? I know you don't like the idea of strings or religion, but I forgot about what you thought about the " Big Bang " theory. Best, Pat

[Profpat]

I recently viewed Vincent Wee-Foo"s thread, The Universal Vortical Singularity, under Your Toe Theory, and looked at a wonderful diagram which could be used as an image to describe my Idea.




I think this implies the constant changes of the areas ( colors ) through movement. It also implies complementary opposites and their effect on the universal nature of things.

Thank you Vincent for for bringing this diagram to the forum.

[dipayankar]

Hi Prof... long time no chat. I think this diagram is very interesting. Its only to be now deciphered scientifically...

Originally Posted by Profpat I recently viewed Vincent Wee-Foo"s thread, The Universal Vortical Singularity, under Your Toe Theory, and looked at a wonderful diagram which could be used as an image to describe my Idea. I think this implies the constant changes of the areas ( colors ) through movement. It also implies complementary opposites and their effect on the universal nature of things. Thank you Vincent for for bringing this diagram to the forum.

[Felix Schrodinger]

Originally Posted by Profpat I recently viewed Vincent Wee-Foo"s thread, The Universal Vortical Singularity, under Your Toe Theory, and looked at a wonderful diagram which could be used as an image to describe my Idea.

Hi Profpat

I'm intrigued by this representation - presumably of the electron shells. The outer eight tangrams are clear but what of the inner Yin/Yang symbol. Would this be the inner shell of two electrons or does it represent the nucleon?

regards
Felix

[Profpat]

Hi Dipayankar and Felix;

You are right on Dipayankar, all this time, over thousands of years, the Chinese seemed to know the secret of the universe was the dynamic relationship of complementary opposites. It is only recently that western science has caught up with that thought. Attraction/repulsion, action/reaction, an interplay of positive/negative charges, are all represented with the symbol of Tao ( Yin/Yang ) and the 8 fundamental I Ching trigrams.

Good to hear from you again, I miss your penetrating questions.

Felix, it is always good to hear from you also.

I was actually relating the 8 trigrams with my 8 areas of the Venn diagram, and not to electrons.
Under the SM there are 8 gluons which bind the 3 quarks in the proton/neutron. It is these 8 gluons that the physicist assign “ color “ to and thus come up with QCD or the color force. According to their model these gluons are constantly changing primary “ color “ and the complementary secondary associated with it changes also simultaneously. As you know I eliminated the need for gluons by binding the quarks directly and assigning “ color “ to the 8 areas created in the Venn diagram. The theme of the I Ching is constant change. If you move my pipe cleaner model you’ll see how the different areas can change position but always the secondary color will also change automatically. By incorporating the Tao, whose primary theme is movement, we can come up with the combined theme of change through movement of complementary opposites. This is basically the theme of my An Idea,

Dip and Felix I needed strings as my fundamental substance to accomplish all of this. I am beginning to rethink strings, thanks to Vincent’s thread, that maybe strings are not a substance either but perhaps a tiny vortex. In other words perhaps there is no fundamental SUBSTANCE in the universe. All we have are INTERACTIONS. Maybe the strings are really vortices, springs if you well.

These are just some of my current thoughts and conjectures.

Very best to both of you,

Pat

[dipayankar]

Bang on target Prof. Somehow strings seem too complicated to be the TOE. And probably Vincent is right about the vortices. However if String Theory is proved right, I will eat my words ...

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Dipayankar and Felix; You are right on Dipayankar, all this time, over thousands of years, the Chinese seemed to know the secret of the universe was the dynamic relationship of complementary opposites. It is only recently that western science has caught up with that thought. Attraction/repulsion, action/reaction, an interplay of positive/negative charges, are all represented with the symbol of Tao ( Yin/Yang ) and the 8 fundamental I Ching trigrams. Good to hear from you again, I miss your penetrating questions. Felix, it is always good to hear from you also. I was actually relating the 8 trigrams with my 8 areas of the Venn diagram, and not to electrons. Under the SM there are 8 gluons which bind the 3 quarks in the proton/neutron. It is these 8 gluons that the physicist assign “ color “ to and thus come up with QCD or the color force. According to their model these gluons are constantly changing primary “ color “ and the complementary secondary associated with it changes also simultaneously. As you know I eliminated the need for gluons by binding the quarks directly and assigning “ color “ to the 8 areas created in the Venn diagram. The theme of the I Ching is constant change. If you move my pipe cleaner model you’ll see how the different areas can change position but always the secondary color will also change automatically. By incorporating the Tao, whose primary theme is movement, we can come up with the combined theme of change through movement of complementary opposites. This is basically the theme of my An Idea, Dip and Felix I needed strings as my fundamental substance to accomplish all of this. I am beginning to rethink strings, thanks to Vincent’s thread, that maybe strings are not a substance either but perhaps a tiny vortex. In other words perhaps there is no fundamental SUBSTANCE in the universe. All we have are INTERACTIONS. Maybe the strings are really vortices, springs if you well. These are just some of my current thoughts and conjectures. Very best to both of you, Pat

[Felix Schrodinger]

Originally Posted by Profpat I was actually relating the 8 trigrams with my 8 areas of the Venn diagram, and not to electrons. Under the SM there are 8 gluons which bind the 3 quarks in the proton/neutron. It is these 8 gluons that the physicist assign “ color “ to and thus come up with QCD or the color force. According to their model these gluons are constantly changing primary “ color “ and the complementary secondary associated with it changes also simultaneously. As you know I eliminated the need for gluons by binding the quarks directly and assigning “ color “ to the 8 areas created in the Venn diagram. The theme of the I Ching is constant change. If you move my pipe cleaner model you’ll see how the different areas can change position but always the secondary color will also change automatically. By incorporating the Tao, whose primary theme is movement, we can come up with the combined theme of change through movement of complementary opposites. This is basically the theme of my An Idea,

I need to think about this. Can you recommend a site which explains the 'colour' in QCD clearly?
Felix