[Profpat]

I thought I would post a diagram of a spherical octahedron here. One of Platos basic shapes and how the mathematical octants would look like in a spherical shape. This is the shape I propose how the neutron would look like with all 8 dimensions enclosed.



Best to all,

Pat

[Profpat]

My diagram of the octants with all the dimensions identified.




Best,

Pat

[dipayankar]

Hi Prof.. Just for my knowledge, has gluon been discovered or is it still a theoritical particle?

Originally Posted by Profpat Completely understandable Dipayankar. With photons, protons, neutrons, electrons, leptons, bosons, gluons, gravitons, on and on, it's easy at times to get confused. I thought I would post the 1st part of my Idea here. My Idea can be reviewed at post # 40. Best to you my friend, Pat

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by dipayankar Hi Prof.. Just for my knowledge, has gluon been discovered or is it still a theoritical particle?

Hi Dipayankar;

According to MSN ENCARTA it is a theoretical particle that has never been observed in detectors.

gluon
- theoretical elementary particle: a theoretical elementary particle without mass, thought to be involved in binding the subatomic particles quarks together


Best,

Pat

[dipayankar]

Hi Prof... really awaiting what the CERN throws at us..

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Dipayankar; According to MSN ENCARTA it is a theoretical particle that has never been observed in detectors. gluon - theoretical elementary particle: a theoretical elementary particle without mass, thought to be involved in binding the subatomic particles quarks together Best, Pat

[Profpat]

So far not much Dipayankar;

Several important achievements in particle physics have been made during experiments at CERN. These include, but are not limited to:

• 1973: The discovery of neutral currents in the Gargamelle bubble chamber.
• 1983: The discovery of W and Z bosons in the UA1 and UA2 experiments.
• 1989: The determination of the number of neutrino families at the Large Electron Positron Collider (LEP) operating on the Z boson peak.
• 1995: The first creation of antihydrogen atoms in the PS210 experiment.
• 2001: The discovery of direct CP-violation in the NA48 experiments.

I guess the accelerators would have to be a whole lot larger than CERN to reap any really good results. Like hundreds or even thousands miles in circumference. Not to economically feasible for any time in the future. But who knows, I believe it is the largest accelerator and may be for some time since the USA gave up on its ~ 60 mile super accelerator that was going to be constructed in Texas. So its the best we have for the time being.

Quite honestly I'm not sure if the money is better spent on outer space, i.e Hubble, NASA, Skylab. or inner space ( accelerators ).

Where do you think the scarce resource dollars ( Euros ) should be spent?

Best,

Pat

[dipayankar]

No idea Prof... maybe the asian countries might pool in some resource..

Originally Posted by Profpat So far not much Dipayankar; Several important achievements in particle physics have been made during experiments at CERN. These include, but are not limited to: 1973: The discovery of neutral currents in the Gargamelle bubble chamber. 1983: The discovery of W and Z bosons in the UA1 and UA2 experiments. 1989: The determination of the number of neutrino families at the Large Electron Positron Collider (LEP) operating on the Z boson peak. 1995: The first creation of antihydrogen atoms in the PS210 experiment. 2001: The discovery of direct CP-violation in the NA48 experiments. I guess the accelerators would have to be a whole lot larger than CERN to reap any really good results. Like hundreds or even thousands miles in circumference. Not to economically feasible for any time in the future. But who knows, I believe it is the largest accelerator and may be for some time since the USA gave up on its ~ 60 mile super accelerator that was going to be constructed in Texas. So its the best we have for the time being. Quite honestly I'm not sure if the money is better spent on outer space, i.e Hubble, NASA, Skylab. or inner space ( accelerators ). Where do you think the scarce resource dollars ( Euros ) should be spent? Best, Pat

[Felix Schrodinger]

Originally Posted by Profpat I eliminated the need for gluons by binding the quarks directly together by superposing and interweaving them and giving them the color force directly.

Amen to that

Originally Posted by Profpat Also I believe the strong nuclear force is accomplished by the electro/magnetic force.

Not sure how you see this working?
Felix

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by dipayankar No idea Prof... maybe the asian countries might pool in some resource..

Hi Dipayankar;

Good idea you have. Maybe China and India and Japan could construct an accelerator connecting their countries. That should be large enough.

It was good having a real time chat with you and the others yesterday. You asked some really good questions.

I was thinking when I said that strings were made of energy that maybe that is the secret. In other words it's not mass that came first nor energy but rather they came simultaneously together. Energy compacted into the smallest amount of mass, the one dimensional Planck length string.

What are your thoughts?

Best,

Pat

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger Amen to that Not sure how you see this working? Felix

Hi Felix;

Good to hear from you again. Too bad you didn't join us in the chat room yesterday, you would have loved playing with the strings.

If you look at the above posts which show the octants, either cube or better the spherical image, you'll see the 8 seperate areas. Each one of those seperate areas would be a positive or a negative charge, cooresponding to the mathematical positive or negative areas of the octant. I view a positive area on one particle being able to bond with a negative area on another particle. This would be the EM force bonding the particles together. It would explain the strong nuclear force and also the weak nuclear force in that there would be a limit to this type of bonding, before break down into alpha particle emission.

Best to you,

Pat