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    Re: An Idea

    [quote=PoPpAScience;51300]Stings could be, "Vortex's of Aware Action".[
    They very well could be vortexes ( vortices? ) but I'm not to sure about aware. Leibniz, however thought every point in space had consciousness. But what did he know, he was only a genius.

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    [SIZE=2]In post #869 you said you viewed strings to be the constituent. Now you are saying strings are made up of legos or some other stuff. What stuff? I guess you need to answer Dipayankar's question as to what makes up strings. As far as I am concerned nothing makes up a string, except energy. They are the lego oners. An electron and quark are particles. "Part" of the atom and proton, each one according to string theory made up of one string. So what again do you think strings are made of?
    Hi Profpat

    Sorry if my earlier post was not clear. I see it like this:

    1. small fundamental unit (like lego bricks so 'legons'?) which I cannot define further
    2. join end to end to make string which are quarks
    3. which combine to make the particles we see in nature


    As you say it would appear that the electron is a single string but I am not completely happy with this description yet and I have no idea how the photon fits in. The 'legons' (fundamentals) are not point particles and must have size in the three spatial dimensions. They are considerably bigger than the Planck length.

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    [They very well could be vortexes ( vortices? ) but I'm not to sure about aware. Leibniz, however thought every point in space had consciousness. But what did he know, he was only a genius.
    Profpat;

    I even go a little further, then to say that there is consciousness in ever point in space. I say that the points are a more elementary component, called "Aware". "Aware" is to consciousness, as Quarks are to Earth.

    Now quarks could be made up of this whirling "Vortex's of Aware Action", and consciousness is the accumulation of all the experiences of "Aware". These experiences are stored in the "Vortex's of Aware Action", and thus help all future evolutionary advancements.
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    You may be right Allen. My An Idea has awareness of family, sight, sound, emotion, etc. built right into the 8 inner dimensions ( octants ) of the proton.

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger View Post
    Hi Profpat

    Sorry if my earlier post was not clear. I see it like this:
    1. small fundamental unit (like lego bricks so 'legons'?) which I cannot define further
    2. join end to end to make string which are quarks
    3. which combine to make the particles we see in nature
    As you say it would appear that the electron is a single string but I am not completely happy with this description yet and I have no idea how the photon fits in. The 'legons' (fundamentals) are not point particles and must have size in the three spatial dimensions. They are considerably bigger than the Planck length.

    regards
    Felix
    Hi Felix;

    Lets take the Borromean Rings;

    Unlike the above, imagine the circles to be 1 dimensional. Now there are 7 different areas or dimensions in those rings. Now lets put the rings together so it looks like one circle. Now lets twist that circle so it looks like one string. Since all the lines are one dimensional it would still be one dimensional entity but inside are the 7 inner dimensions and once back to the above figure it could enfold into a 3 dimensional geodesic sphere.

    Would that work for you?

    Best,

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    P.S.


    A realization of the Borromean rings as ellipses
    Last edited by Profpat; 04-09-2008 at 11:17 AM. Reason: spelling added P.S.

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    Again remember they would be one dimensional strings and not three dimensional tubes. But if you twisted those three strings tightly it would appear to be a one dimensional string, but would have incorporated in it everything we need to make a universe.

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    Re: An Idea

    [quote=Profpat;51336]Hi Felix;

    Lets take the Borromean Rings;

    quote]

    Dear Professor,

    I am going to boycott the rings this year for strickly humanitarian reasons, what about you?

    And regarding single dimensional anythings, could you show me a real or true example of that?

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    Re: An Idea

    No to both MJA.

    I think the Olympics should be for the athletes who trained so hard, and not the politicians.

    And no I never saw a supersting in reality, only conceptually.

    Best,

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    Re: An Idea

    But why would the basic building block be only one dimension? Why not 0 dimension or 3 dimensions?


    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    Hi Dipayankar;

    As Felix pointed out strings are the basic constituent of matter. It can't be made up of anything else, or it would no longer be the basic building block.

    Lets say it's the basic massive unit made up of pure energy. The electron is considered to be a string with an assigned mass of 1, therefore the energy in a string or an electron would be 1XCsquared. a lot of energy for a one dimensional Planck length entity.

    This is that beginning point where Mass and energy are the same. Remember our chat discussion as to which came first Mass or Energy? This theory would state both came the same. Energy compacted into the smallest massive form a one dimensional Planck length entity.

    Best,

    Pat

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    No to both MJA.

    I think the Olympics should be for the athletes who trained so hard, and not the politicians.

    And no I never saw a supersting in reality, only conceptually.

    Best,

    Pat
    Then maybe the solution to the Olympic problem is to denationalize it, do away with national anthems and such. Do away with national medal counts and perhaps have it at the same site every 4 years, such as the original site in Greece. I'd vote on that.

    With regard to never seeing a superstring in reality, it is true that nobody ever has. Then it is also true to say that the conception of superstring is currently unreal, and unreal is untrue.


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