[dipayankar]

Ha ha I need to try that out...

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Dipayankar; If you were to set up a friend on a blind date, a womans first question would probably be; " What does he do for a living? " The mans first question would probably be; " What does she look like? " Viva la difference. Yin/Yang eternally onward. Best, Pat

[Profpat]

Hi Felix;

" wave particle duality, plus the strong and weak forces; can you show me how SR does this? "

I don't think SR was meant to explain wave/particle duality or the strong and weak nuclear forces Felix, for that explanation you'll have to scroll up to post # 40 above in my An Idea.

SR describes how time/space and motion are relative to one another and that it does beautifully, with much good evidence to support it.

Best to you Felix,

Pat

[Profpat]

Hi Everyone;

As some of you know, my latest project is an attempt to reconcile gravity with light.

1) Both are infinite in range.
2) Both follow the inverse law, due to their geometry.
3) Both operate at light speed.
4) One is repulsive, the other attractive.

In order to come up with a T.O.E. gravity has to reconciled with the other forces. It is my understanding, that at the beginning of the universe there was only EMR and gravity. In fact my, An Idea only requires EMR, it doesn't need the strong or the weak force, in that I believe them to be part of the EMR force.

That leaves gravity.

So I would appreciate any and all members help in this attempt to reconcile gravity with EMR.

Thank you,

Pat

[dipayankar]

For that Prof, we need to define Gravitational force properly. is it a real force or a pseudo force?

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Everyone; As some of you know, my latest project is an attempt to reconcile gravity with light. 1) Both are infinite in range. 2) Both follow the inverse law, due to their geometry. 3) Both operate at light speed. 4) One is repulsive, the other attractive. In order to come up with a T.O.E. gravity has to reconciled with the other forces. It is my understanding, that at the beginning of the universe there was only EMR and gravity. In fact my, An Idea only requires EMR, it doesn't need the strong or the weak force, in that I believe them to be part of the EMR force. That leaves gravity. So I would appreciate any and all members help in this attempt to reconcile gravity with EMR. Thank you, Pat

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by dipayankar For that Prof, we need to define Gravitational force properly. is it a real force or a pseudo force?

A great question Dipayankar ( I've missed your penetrating question BTW )

I've seen it described both ways, i.e. as a force between two massive objects, but also ( which is more to my liking ) as an effect. This I vision, as the spatial warping, that large objects cause in the fabric of space.

What do you think?

Best to you,

Pat

P.S. Negative gravity, such as a quasar being spewed out by a black hole may be a force, due to negative pressure.

[dipayankar]

We are made to believe that the second option is true, since there is no reason why two electrically neutral masses would attract each other. However that would bring me to an even fundamental question, how would you define the physical properties of spacetime fabric so that it would be able to achieve spatial wraping.

Originally Posted by Profpat A great question Dipayankar ( I've missed your penetrating question BTW ) I've seen it described both ways, i.e. as a force between two massive objects, but also ( which is more to my liking ) as an effect. This I vision, as the spatial warping, that large objects cause in the fabric of space. What do you think? Best to you, Pat P.S. Negative gravity, such as a quasar being spewed out by a black hole may be a force, due to negative pressure.

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by dipayankar We are made to believe that the second option is true, since there is no reason why two electrically neutral masses would attract each other. However that would bring me to an even fundamental question, how would you define the physical properties of spacetime fabric so that it would be able to achieve spatial wraping.

You have a lot of good questions today Dipayankar.

I assume you are talking about the ether.

It would be my guess that space is filled with EMR, if nothing else. They ( some physicists ) do talk about quantum foam, strings and other such stuff that may be out there, neutrinos for instance. One thing for sure space is not void.

Best,

Pat

[Profpat]

Main article: Luminiferous aether
The basic idea of the æther as a physical transmission medium is simple, and like all media, if it exists, must have fundamental properties including a pressure, mass density, and temperature. Further, if compressible, it will also exhibit a characteristic finite propagation speed, c, at which all transfer of momentum and energy through it can be carried from one physical location to another. Compressibility also means that there will also be a distinct coefficient of compressibility (and its inverse, a distinct modulus), a characteristic impedance, and the ability to create and sustain wave activity. Any other properties, including ponderable matter and the specific characteristics of waves are solely dependent upon specifics arising from these basics.

Further Einstein whose theory didn't require an ether revisited it:

Such a view, however, contradicts the continuum concept of space-time and fields and Einstein's statements in "Aether and the Theory of Relativity", May 5th, 1920:
"More careful reflection teaches us, however, that the special theory of relativity does not compel us to deny ether." and "To deny the ether is ultimately to assume that empty space has no physical qualities whatever".

[Profpat]

Given the above post, we do have temperature (3 degrees K, CBR ), The effect of gravity does propagate through space at c, it is a transmission medium etc.

[dipayankar]

If we consider ether, I guess it answers every question, but we have not proven ether yet.

Originally Posted by Profpat You have a lot of good questions today Dipayankar. I assume you are talking about the ether. It would be my guess that space is filled with EMR, if nothing else. They ( some physicists ) do talk about quantum foam, strings and other such stuff that may be out there, neutrinos for instance. One thing for sure space is not void. Best, Pat