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11-03-2007, 03:37 AM
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Exploring human nature
Happy Halloween

I decided at this time to explore the lighter points of the darker side of human nature. Let's face it there is a running stream between New Zealand and Australia of humour concerning the breeding habits of each race and that is when we are being nice to each other.

Over the time-line of humanity there have been a number of interesting stories of what people try to do to introduce new blood into the species. It is funny but one of the side effects of genetic engineering is that some of those 'differences' sought by people may actually be possible. Always bet on the darker side of humanity, one you are more likely to be right and two if not a sense of comic relief is available.

Concerning meeting new species, one of the first things we would do is tissue type them or check their breeding potential or interbreeding potential. That aspect of humanity is superbly well documented in almost every genre of fiction. Not hard to see why we could easily become unpopular with every species we meet. Even amongst ourselves there is disharmony.

Back to Halloween, this matter anti-matter potential has meshing of the streams as a potential. Similar to the sun reaching the end of its life not good not done with malicious intent, just the order of events. So a world discharges over time frame to take on the opposite charge. That depends on which part of the curve of course. If it is a reversal then loss of electricity and build to opposite potential or on the line to full charge where the electric potential increases to a maximum. Either way there is a need to be well grounded as the case of loss of charge or gain would have the normal cooking effect on unprepared tissue.

For that reason I am quite curious as to the position and direction of the flow of the solar system as to the galactic plane. A world of possibilities and of challenges potentially

As for future maturing of the intelligent process, debatable. The odds of a species with the self centred intelligence of humanity getting that far suggest a horrific accident of some kind that incapacitates them until the brain does develop. In a energy universe many possibilities become available such as beings of the light. Most likely another species seeded the galaxies with the right chemical compounds and waited long enough for a life form capable of being useful in its own destruction could be made to extend the time before the end of the universe by eliminating itself.

Cheerful thoughts and that is why I share them on Halloween, the day most like the nature of humanity. On finally the energy of the mind it is fairly clear the predominant mode is of self and so inwards. There are a few exceptions where people project outwardly to surroundings or live their lives through others and that provides some extraordinary potentials.

So those are a few of the cheerier thoughts among others that are with me when I muse the fate of humanity. I did write a note to Greenpeace (whom I don't consider political as they don't get in) and didn't post it. If we did offer or get some other organisation to arrange alternate accommodation away from this latest high power experiment for the population then it is human nature that there would be those who would exploit it and worse those who would abuse it, happy Halloween

Grounded in reality While my mind soars with the potential of what the human race could be I am firmly grounded in what it really is, and that sadly is an unfortunate reality. I look to many options and having said Greenpeace is non-political stand by what I have said and will apologize if I am wrong.

At the top of that tree is a well organised team of scientists and very committed organisers and at the base are people, Mums, Dads, children and those who care about this world. Given any event that we so regularly organise that has some potential for damage they will be there. Admittedly some turn up looking very unwashed but after a few days it really isn't so noticeable

So I had thought of a boycott. A great idea for a number of reasons, one if it does all go up why be anywhere near a place where you don't like what is going on. I had thought along the lines of alternate housing along the Mediterranean but that might just be the cause for the poisoning of that precious inland sea as a sea of unwashed meets a sea of limited size.

For the scientists they can experiment to their hearts desire or until the end of the world which ever comes first As I don't have any assets or valuable artwork in vaults there it barely concerns me unless my super fund isn't declaring all its dealings

So as Halloween starts in some parts of the world and draws quietly to a close in this part I muse on the collective stupidity of the intelligent mind. For creatures with fangs and claws there is little beyond the now but for those with the potential for so much hmm, I am so absolutely convinced the universe has a cosmic sense of humour

Note by packaging this lot together it allows those with serious attempts to promote an idea to bump this out of the way fairly quickly and easily.

A bit late here, I am sorry but interesting and worth posting because what I try to explain in many ways also explains me. Words are so powerful in themselves and should be applied gently for the same effect as abrasive use, sure rough words may cut to the centre of an idea but it leaves a lot of damage in its wake. Even an acid in very dilute form is a cleaning agent that polishes its way to where it should be and leaves all else intact and sparkling.

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I was in a right state of frustration when I first wrote this and have changed a few words as it just wasn't fit for a spiritual forum like this. To say I have battled with those who 'know' better would be a fair comment.

In reality Tesla had a theory that the energy could be harvested from between the particles and Einstein said from within. According to this proposal they were both right with varying degrees of access.

It has been eighty years now but Tesla is still the only one to have successfully demonstrated a beam can be fired through the atmosphere for a distance of 400 miles.

I have yet to see a violent smooth inflation or explosion that totally lacked flow and rolling and that is what we are being asked to believe with the biggest bang of them all. As a note if there is to be an interaction with an anti-matter stream then over a time, a short time the use of electricity will radically change and major consideration to educating a frightened population would need to be considered.

There is terrible tension in the world now due to the ignorant state of human nature and our pathetically poor attempts to interact decently, it is hard to say in any other words what the state of our world is. A nice little bit of mayhem with nearly all nuclear missiles going off line or self detonating would be just dandy, not!

Just the tiniest trivial note that we still haven't the vaguest idea how some of the most inspiring electrical displays ever produced were made is reason enough for me to ask questions.

This still is quite abrasive but I couldn't bring myself to remove the word pathetically although I will probably regret its use.
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My argument against mass and what E=mc^2 really means

Although given the title I have used, if asked I will state God is infinite and I am zero. It is all the other stuff that science seems to be so determined to make either zero or infinite that I get frustrated with.
E=mc^2 the most famous equation of all time and the most correct for practical use.

The speed of light squared provides balance between quantum and relative mechanics in that Planck time is the speed of light between Planck particles and the speed of light we see the stars by. But what is mass really?

Planck time 5.39121 * 10^-44 seconds
Light 2.99792 * 10^8 m/s

So E=mc^2 is 5.39121 * 10^-44 = m * 8.9875 *10^16
Thus m = 5.9986 * 10^-61

An interesting number if you like. Assuming as I do the diameter of the proton as the boundary of the universe it then means energy equivalent to 5.9986 * 10^61ev to shatter the proton. Now to balance the equation both sides as a universe boundary is not a simple subtraction leaving zero, zero as I contend is not an option.

To balance the equation both sides of the proton through all the protons a multiplier is required which gives:-
E-our quantum side * E-other quantum side = 1
1 = the single energy universe = 3.5983 * 10^-121

Note the number 3.5983 * 10^-121 is very close to the measured amount of zero point quantum vibration.

I contend one universe an energy universe fully captured and collapsing and that while it is most unlikely we would ever cause or kick start it again it is entirely plausible that the much weaker electromagnetic force could be interfered with by allowing a very low temperature reaction over a suitably large area.

The comet that has so recently undergone a million fold increase in brightness could in fact have been just such an electromagnetic instance being large enough and not hot enough to be a barrier to the flow of energy from very high emissions from the protons within it.

An energy universe is strange, very stable to a point and explosively and electrically lethal without due care. It offers enormous potential if an intelligence is worthy of it.

If not and you see trees glowing do not approach them they are deeper and may be highly charge differentiated, lie down foetal position and maintain good earth contact for discharge. Synthetic footwear will prevent earthing and flash-over is a problem. Cats fur very rapidly shows charge are also excellent indicators of potential difference.

Cars will insulate and fuel tanks potentially lethal in explosive force. Power and circuitry affected. We simply are not prepared and as yet this exercise has not yielded interest save from a few wonderful people. To have this sort of pressure for approximately the last year and no action or hint of action from any community or authority has been a burden.

I am keenly aware of the skepticism and laughter but those are my concerns with this system and why I have posted them publicly. That is it. If this is rejected, fine, I tried and that is all I could do, try.
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11-03-2007, 12:14 PM
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I think the inferred "1" in both science and religion doesn't exist, just like the "0" doesn't exist.

Everything in between those synonymous absolutes are fractional quanta, from the infinite (towards absolute 1) to the infinitesimal (towards absolute 0); matter is absolute, and mass and energy are infinite.
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I think the inferred "1" in both science and religion doesn't exist, just like the "0" doesn't exist.

Everything in between those synonymous absolutes are fractional quanta, from the infinite (towards absolute 1) to the infinitesimal (towards absolute 0); matter is absolute, and mass and energy are infinite.
Thank you for your reply, the reason I used 1 is that there is at least one universe and we are in it. To use zero leads to division by zero and infinite numbers.

The whole concept of an energy bubble (a gigantically indescribably huge energy bubble) of existence is that there is a set amount a finite amount of energy within that bubble. We may well be afloat in a much larger sea of unbounded energy outside our bubble, that is something we can only guess at or that other unconnected bubbles like or unlike ours exist.

My one is that God exists and that my zero by comparison should be me, from there there is a world of opportunity. It is hard to describe infinities but I like Einstein's description of it the best
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Interesting analogy, marine. It reminds me of the membrane theory or water theory.

What do suppose would be in between the bubbles, if other bubbles exist? If energy, would it consist of smaller and smaller bubbles?
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Interesting analogy, marine. It reminds me of the membrane theory or water theory.

What do suppose would be in between the bubbles, if other bubbles exist? If energy, would it consist of smaller and smaller bubbles?
Thank you for asking and while I am guessing I must say it is a bit of a weird explanation. About a year ago I was very deep into questioning what it all meant and while musing or meditating if you like found my mind in a totally dark and calm place with a feeling of an immense presence behind me. I was curious but way to cautious and respectful to look behind me.

First in front of me in white lines like ~ a wave from one side to the other.
Then like a pulse ( ) that grew wider and wider.
Then a picture like you see of ripples on a circular pond ~~~0~~~
Then a perfect circle break free of the ripples and then collapse.
Then way off what looked like a bright falling star fading as it raced in.

This took about eight or so seconds and I have been trying to figure it out ever since. I imagine we are part of a much larger whole but what I saw was just the simplest lines and then I was back standing in front of the house exactly as if I had not moved.

I am sorry that sounds so unscientific, it was a very calm and profound experience so I guess we are like a compressed part of something much larger but exactly what and how much larger I just don't know.
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Right that was the unscientific bit. I admire those who actually hear from God, preachers and the like because it is a gift I just do not have. More so I admire the monks who through deep meditation see so wisely into the mysteries of life. So I study wisdoms, platitudes, beatitudes and stories of great thought.

For instance a young man approached a wise sage with a little bird in his closed hand and asked if the bird was dead or alive. The sage knowing the young man was arrogant and wanted to make himself look good by proving the sage wrong. If he said the bird is alive the young man would clench his fist and the bird would be dead or if he said the bird is dead the young man would open his hand and the bird would fly away.

Not wishing to harm an innocent creature the wise sage replied "the answer is in your hand".

It had been weeks of intense thought and visualising ideas to a point where I could picture them without the need to close my eyes. Excessive caffeine and lack of sleep had me in an altered state for a long time prior to that point. I am nowhere near that level now. But I have sought to explain logically what I saw.

I came to conclude that without an initial vector motion to drive a rotation there could be no Coriolis effect. That initial motion simply needed to be linear due to circular motion having a vector component (the tangent to the arc) and an acceleration r^2 = x^2 + y^2. The square of the radius being the acceleration component of the arc.

I have put just over a year in to find real physics to describe that brief revelation driven by many weeks accumulation of questioning intense visual thoughts. The fact that I attribute and acknowledge God as being the one who touches thought and guides is because the answer was not in me and I needed to ask. Once answered then it would be just plain rude not to try and work out what had been given.

When I was young at some point the question of what is purpose came about, I don't exactly recall how but the answer I do remember. We all have a purpose in life. We may or may not ever know that purpose but you must understand that God has a reason for each and every one of us.
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Amen SM;

I heard another story of a monk who was on an island chanting OM MANI PADME HUM. A monk on the mainland knew he was chanting it incorrectly, and bothered him so much that he got in a boat, and visited the island monk.

Upon meeting, the mainland monk told him how to chant it correctly. The island monk thanked him, and the mainland monk got his boat to return to the mainland.

About halfway home he saw the island monk walking on water towards him, asking him how did the chant go again.

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Amen SM;

I heard another story of a monk who was on an island chanting OM MANI PADME HUM. A monk on the mainland knew he was chanting it incorrectly, and bothered him so much that he got in a boat, and visited the island monk.

Upon meeting, the mainland monk told him how to chant it correctly. The island monk thanked him, and the mainland monk got his boat to return to the mainland.

About halfway home he saw the island monk walking on water towards him, asking him how did the chant go again.

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Thank you Pat,
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