[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Sentient marine Thank you Pat, That is beautiful.

You are most welcome SM. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

And thank you for your most enlightening posts.

Best to you,

Pat

[Sentient marine]

I remember reading many, well almost forty years ago about cloud chambers and the tracking of cosmic particles as they left a trail through a super saturated, I think it was alcohol suspension.

It must be me or poor memory or lack of patience on the net looking for some of the things that were supposed from the study of the trails left in the clouds before being detected or collected in the instruments below.

[N0B0DY]

I was thinking about your light-wave experience you had, marine, and was wondering if it may be related to optics.

There is a little experiment, although dangerous if you have weak eyes, where you can see up close and personal the Chandra depictions of black hole radiation when you close your eyes really tight and softly press into your eyelids for a minute. It's quite a facinating lightshow.

The pupil represents the black hole, btw.

[Sentient marine]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY I was thinking about your light-wave experience you had, marine, and was wondering if it may be related to optics. There is a little experiment, although dangerous if you have weak eyes, where you can see up close and personal the Chandra depictions of black hole radiation when you close your eyes really tight and softly press into your eyelids for a minute. It's quite a facinating lightshow. The pupil represents the black hole, btw.

I am somewhat short sighted, often joking that as we get older our vision tends to long sightedness. So someday when the two balance I will indeed have perfect vision.

Maybe not the right description but the experience could have been eyes closed or open as it seemed more directed just at the area of visual processing and without distraction from any other light source even though it was quite dark at the time.

Also at the time I was getting very few hours of sleep at night for several weeks before the incident and was at a level of intensity of thought I have not known since. I can hold a thought of a shape in my mind and turn or fly though as one could a CADCAM but not with the complete loss of all other visual input like that experience.

As for gentle pressure on the eyelids yes that works or the residual from light sources of concentrating on spot then to a composite surface. It was different, very wonderful and I am glad that it happened. I am also glad that I am sleeping more now and drinking a little less coffee. I had been using coffee to act like a blade to cut directly to an answer a sort of tunnel vision for each obstacle then step back to see the bigger picture to the next hurdle.

It is a round about explanation for my taking the strangest new direction in my life and I don't know if it does explain or doesn't explain but I hope it helps.

The first experience I had in any way similar to that was when I converted at church in a feeling of warmth that was awesome. It was very different but is my only other reference as the rest of my life although a bit weird is to my mind all very human if not always easily explainable.

[N0B0DY]

Seems as though you might have caught a gleam of heaven, like those moments you wish would never end; in heaven they never do.

Endless possibilities that will probably occur in a matter of time, with a control to omit the ill-conceived effects of superficial madness works for me, marine.

[Sentient marine]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY Seems as though you might have caught a gleam of heaven, like those moments you wish would never end; in heaven they never do. Endless possibilities that will probably occur in a matter of time, with a control to omit the ill-conceived effects of superficial madness works for me, marine.

Thank you those two events were probably two or three minutes of my life and I am very pleased they happened although I am confused as to what I should do because of them but definitely worth living for.

I have been considering the arrow of time in the quantum sense and the link to conscious thought. The idea is just as particles can entangle beyond relative communication so can thought. If the arrow of time worked both ways the some of the themes we know may have much deeper meaning. Quantum suggests thinking on a known result even though it has happened can influence it meaning the result is the sum total of all thought at and after the time of the event. Looking forwards then the future may present possibilities that are knowable in creative thought before they happen although exact knowledge could not be certain for people when it comes to possibilities.

Revelations is a concern as it is written with such authority and seems to describe global electrocution. Alright not a nice topic to present but with the recent comet incident where comet Holmes increased in brightness more than a million times and expanded to larger than Jupiter there were other links.

For a start the inner planets and comet Holmes were aligned with the large solar activity that occurred on the surface of the sun about the time the comet increased in brightness. There was a plasma like jet connected to the comet. So the comet is very cold and the sun very hot with large electrical activity at the time. Soon we will also have a large very cold ring of superconductors. Maybe it is just me but I intend to fit an anti-static strap to the car. Just an insurance if you like.

Benefits only if your car is hit by lightning and the anti-static strap allows charge to run around the car preventing the fuel tank exploding. The occupants would need some way to earth themselves as well. The thought of the penitent man kneeling before the Breath of God or removing shoes on Holy ground is quite vivid. On the flip side the symbolism that motor cycle groups sometimes employ of a burning rider may be along similar lines.

I don't enjoy thoughts on the darker side of possibility but would be wrong to not write of them. The up side is that it is such a beautiful world and my experiences were one serene the other joyful.

To get to a unified theory or a TOE would most likely just be the beginning on the path to a better understanding. So I look at where relativity is good close in from centre out to solar system size then doesn't explain larger events like galaxy rotation and quantum so connected deep down and problematic with larger details like electrons and bosons.

If the electron was like a slinky spring it could exhibit a sine wave or travel as a compression of part of the spring like a pulse giving a linear effect. That would explain the linear correctness of the one slit gate and then for the two slit gate the pulse could be partially absorbed by the material around the gates with the less than complete charge forced to continue as an interference pattern.

With the W and Z bosons their half life is minute around 3 * 10^-25 seconds. The most stable particle known is the proton with a lower limit of 10^35 years estimated at least. As E = mc^2 is equivalence between matter and energy and the proton is the stable shape and mass of matter ... could it also be that the proton is also a container and stable shape of energy?

One idea that I have thought might be possible is if a known light stable crystal could have been shown to have expanded in size from a known accurate measure by a heavy metal ruler made a long time ago say a diamond known very accurately 50 or 100 years ago or more.

I have been asking family and friends to fit anti-static straps. For one it is not expensive, it gives lightning protection and just ever so slightly extends tyre life as static discharged through the tyres causes extra wear. That is why modern tyres have more synthetic material and less carbon making them quite poor conductors of electricity.

[Rufus]

Sentient Marine

Nice drawings, I hope they were yours. The big problems with the big bang bounce theory is where did the matter come from in the first place and what accounts for the space for this bouncing to take place? rufe

[Sentient marine]

Thank you Rufus,

Just over a year ago I started looking, trying to explain an experience. It required a different physics and so those drawings are an attempt to describe the idea.

From the cyclical point of view being fully contained in an inversion there is no loss of energy as a crunch causes a repeat and the rotation of the final pairing translates into a linear release of energy as the whole process inverts again.

I admit that looking at quantum and requiring an inner boundary made me look for something physical, tangible and that is why the boundary of the proton seemed right, it just had the right feel. That was the many worlds aspect all contained in one universe, a form with force and flow.

It got me looking at the astronomy pictures as a 3D warp of a flat picture, not two galaxies but one a mirror reflection of the other ... even bent at right angles. It still doesn't answer the question of where it all began, perhaps that one is best left to theologians. I work or perhaps play with mental imagery.

When you asked where does all the matter come from in the first place I had misread the intent and thought of a first instance, I visualised a super condensate brilliant white ... perhaps pure thought.

The matter for this universe is the cooled inflation a halted super-condensate of contained energy. Being unable to make more space in this concept of creating space being a huge expenditure of energy. It forms thermals within itself, the r^2 component of a circle gives the cone folding in and the linear displacement gives the rotation or spin ... this would account for coriolis effect and polhode movement.

I have been asked on other forums to consider whether I am being reasonable or delusional to be honest. I am just trying to apply a logic to a very strange experience of intuitive reasoning, I was backing out quietly and hoping that this would be a safe Christmas.

[Rufus]

Sentient Marine

When you start getting into quantum theory and mixing it with thought you are treading in dangerous waters. I'm not sure if the two can actually be mixed. Even the 'white light' you speak of would need either an origin or would have to be there as a constant state and the latter is the only possibility that seems reasonable.

You use some words that I'm not familiar with so I'll be adding them to my terms definition onsite and I'll get back to you then.

Perhaps the expression r^2 means something to math people but I have no idea how to decipher it.

Other forum problems may arise from your talking over the readers head.

I still want to know if those are your drawings. Thanks for your polite reply

rufe

[Sentient marine]

Yes I drew the diagrams.
This one explains r^2


The r^2 is the radius of a circle times itself, much like finding the long side of a right angle triangle. It helps describe the area of a circle. I am afraid the drawings that I have done are very simple and do not go close to the picture I hold in my head.

Art is not yet my strong point. The v represents giving the circle a spin and is shown as a straight line. So the idea of spin is a straight line of force and a connection to a centre. The mathematics of something like swinging a ball on a string around.

My problems have been that I try to explain real world ideas to highly skilled mathematical people that run all round me with the numbers they want. For instance if you had to wind the fishing line from one reel to another it is pretty simple. But in mathematics the numbers can be used to 'theorise' the centre of the reel right down to zero or even into negative numbers. Imagine trying to wind an extra amount of fishing line that you don't have on the reel just because it is mathematically possible.

So when I try to explain a fluid lets say water as having a density and say being pulled up inside a shower head where there are a number of nozzles there are some interesting flows.
First the water has an overall density
Second there is a current to each nozzle
Third between each flow to a nozzle a lessening of pressure.

Now apply that to space and the first is the density that holds matter together, the second is the flow-lines of the cosmic web and the third is the power of the void. The power of the void is a lessening of density or tension if you like between the lines of the cosmic web.

Three properties of a fluid of space-time to match, so the strong nuclear force matches the first overall density. The electromagnetic force is the cosmic web and the weak nuclear force is a reducing force (it brings heavy elements back to lighter ones) and matches the third fluid property.

Lot of words and so far that is as far as I have gotten. I have just finished my second suspension of a week at www.bautforum.com for trying to get people to consider the idea. There is a link there to an independent researchers site for peer review. But I am a cleaner, I mop floors and there just are not many cleaners who would peer review my idea and even if they did because I have no academic qualification I do not have an institution to say I belong to.

So it looks like back to the water bucket for me and leave the science to the scientists, cheers