[Sentient marine]

Cyclical Universe based on Big Rip Scenario

I propose to offer a few mass distribution diagrams to demonstrate why the portion of the universe we are in is cyclical.

First
To describe the beginning based on the last big rip starting our section of the universe requires that the trends to infinity correspond. This occurs first at derivation of four.

Second the initial mass distribution

Based on our section of the universe drawn in the thinning would occur most at the edge of the metric expansion. Surface of the sphere being x^2 and volume being x^3.

I could include a diagram of filaments of density but as you already would have seen them they are the best description of Professor Stephen Hawking's "Spaghetti over the event horizon" possible.

[mkirkpatrick]

Many thanks for the thread SM,all existence appears to be cyclical.



regards michael.

[RascalPuff]

Dear Sentient Marine:
Reminiscent of Hegel's cycle of history?

Thank you.

Regards,
- RP

[Sentient marine]

Originally Posted by RascalPuff Dear Sentient Marine: Reminiscent of Hegel's cycle of history? Thank you. Regards, - RP

A wonderfully interesting idea, Hegel is a very profound thinker.

I am sorry that this is so mundane in comparison. Here I was just starting with the physical link and hoping to work it through towards these more noble ideas.

First I hoped to just to unify quantum and general relativity and explain dark energy for the appearance of space showing accelerated expansion.

Initially it is space that stretches pointing to many billions of years before matter can no longer hold together and gives out theoretically.

I looked at this from the view that if space initially stretches there must be a uniform connecting force causing it. That should only happen if there is a link to all matter. The only available link is gravity.

Thought experiment, a glass of liquid say oil and half way down put a membrane across so that water can not pass. Put a droplet of water in at the top, it slowly falls until it sits on the membrane. The oil above represents the air, the water the falling body and the membrane the planet surface.

If this experiment was then subjected to a vacuum it would fly apart. If gravity could also exhibit a density then the link is made to dark energy being an opposing pull outwards of gravity.

All the Newtonian and Einstein gravity models hold true as we are only measuring the difference not the full density. My idea was never to invalidate superb work done but to offer an enhancement that might link general relativity to quantum theory and keep both intact.

[baudrunner]

Interesting graphical representation of a mathematical formula doesn't make it so. Reality is not a reflection or representation of mathematical formulae. Einstein once proved a static Universe by tinkering with his own relativity equations, but admitted later that in reality this was not the case even though the math was correct.

Dark matter may be no more than that which occupies our horizon in a fantastically collossal Universe wherein which we might occupy just a dimple because anything of this sheer size cannot maintain the integrity of a presumed shape, which is necessary in your equations. Light from the distant matter in that horizon might never reach us in the entire history of humankind, yet the effects of the gravity of matter occupying it would still exist and be evident in observations of what we can see, and that horizon might very well be wrapping us so that it occupies most of our field of view. Dark matter might not be dark at all, just too far away for us to ever see its light. Our presumption of our place in this Universe is just that, a presumption, and you and I both know that nothing is where we think it is because of gravitic lensing, which is always fooling us.

The Universe can continue to expand for infinity because its rate of expansion is constant, not accelerating. That is an illusion which can be proved by the elastic band demonstration, whereby drawing three dots on a straight band six inches long and stretching it to twice its length produces the illusion that the dot farthest from the center dot moved away faster (3 times faster if the far dot was 3 times as far away) than the near dot did from the center dot in the same amount of time.

In fact, all calculations ever made with respect to the actual dimensions of the Universe are completely incorrect. It is impossible to determine the size or age of the Universe but there are any number of ways that someone might attempt this.

[RascalPuff]

Dear Baudrunner:

Can't your example of the stretching rubber band be used to confirm an accelerating universe?

[Sentient marine]

RascalPuffDear Baudrunner: Can't your example of the stretching rubber band be used to confirm an accelerating universe?

Thank you both RascalPuff and Baudrunner I truly believe there is a part of the answer in all of us. I like the thought of the rubber band.

If it was applied to a wormhole for instance the time at each end would be the same. So lets assume we can move them apart a fair way. A body enters at one end and exits at the same time at the other. Now movement was involved so one can think of a stretching like a rubber band to make the trip.

The entry/exit time is the same but the traveller experiences time in the transition. How is it done, possibly there is an increasing acceleration going in perhaps logarithmic. So there would be a similar deceleration back to the same exit time point. The traveller experiences time moving forward both accelerating and decelerating.

Now imagine the midpoint is moved far from the two ends which are still fairly close. The same rule applies entry in - time accelerates forwards then decelerates backwards not reverses logarithmically - the traveller exits at the right time frame in zero time but has taken much longer to make the trip.

It adds strength to the adage "A shortcut is the longest distance between two points", well if this is the case then that is intuitive wisdom known long before wormhole explanations were available. This is an observation, I am a cleaner and don't presume to have the mathematics to present to a real scientist. I prefer to say I am a student of observation. As for understanding consciousness I am in need of much practice to become a student of listening to the universe.

I apologize that I haven't posted for a while, many thoughts on my mind.

This next bit is due to just finding out hot fluids freeze more quickly than cold fluids given certain conditions, it is called the "Mpemba effect" in honour of a Tanzanian ice cream maker a Mr Mpemba.

A brilliant mathematician by the name of Richard on another forum noted that hot water pipes freeze and burst before the cold water pipes in a severe frost.

I live in a very Mediterranean climate so there hasn't ever been a time when the pipes freeze where I live.

I was thinking if this effect could have any bearing on the perfect fluid of the initial expansion. You could be exploring new potential properties of the start of our universe.

The big bang is the basis of physics while new theory is "expansion", maybe this might lead to something important.


OK so I might be rushing it a bit, but this is what I thought.

Zero point energy is 10^120 and so would have exploded in micro seconds.
That would still be an energy ball.
If it cooled at the edge because the energy distribution would be to the centre.

The first stable matter could be string.
If a loop of matter pulled the inner part out over the edge it would all be connected on the outside. That means quantum connects to all the branes as well.

Each brane is in a structure.
Our distance from the sun protects us from falling in.
So forth for our solar system to the galaxy.
From the galaxy to the super galaxy structure,
And finally distance protects the connection to all the other branes.

Our stable platform is the proton.
All the relativity still holds true light is the upper speed limit.
Space and time are curved.
It is not the end because that would be 2 solid lumps of matter ready to kick it all off again.

Our recognition of the other branes would be the appearance of attraction to them, the new theory of "expansion".

I work as a cleaner, so when your head is down a dozen toilets a day it really does help to think about "other matter", cheers

[baudrunner]

RascallPuff:

The stretching rubber band can be used to prove the illusion of an accelerating expansion. However, given that the actual expansion rate of the band is the same for the near dot as it is for the far dot then in reality the rubber band is expanding at a constant rate and the cyclic collapse and rebirth scenario of the Universe can therefore be dismissed because there is nothing to prevent the continued growth of the Universe. This makes more sense if we adjust our thinking on the nature of creation. There was no "big bang" per se and there is not a finite amount of matter in the Universe because as I see it, creation of space and matter continues at the periphery. The Universe can only be observed from within.

Seen in that light, the expansion of this Universe is not so hard to understand. It's the result of hysteresis.

[Sentient marine]

Hello RascallPuff I think your signature line is excellent,"there is nothing permanent except for change".

I try to explain what I see using many links to known phenomena as well as predicted events. For 2000 years church groups have been pointing to a time called 'Megiddo'.

Nostradamus warns of a time of unrest leading to WWlll. I don't claim to be psychic any more than anyone else is but through strict observation I think I have linked the events.

We will learn of time travel and new propulsion at a terrible price. All events are linked through time continuum. That is the future although uncertain can be known through observation. Our thinking minds especially the creative ones 'see' events. They do not have to be 'locked in' but the human model is resistant to change.

In order to break that which is predicted one needs to know the sequence and be able to change the direction of the collected pressure of the world's thought. To travel requires a medium, for distance it is space, to the past or future it is time. This means time like space is a medium and has a density.

For a string model on space/time density the traveller can not exceed the medium either space(distance) or time(speed of causality). It means a traveller by changing the density of the medium can go back, like a cork moving slightly ahead or behind based on depth. But there is a catch.

We can only travel to the depth our machine can handle. Like a submarine there is a crush depth (or worse loss of cohesion if too light). The speed of causality far exceeds the ability to outrun it. That means changes are permanent, until changed again. You can cause a time wave but not outrun it.

Any change will surge through to the future. Change anything that affects the traveller and their decision to travel is also changed. At that point of change there may be just seconds to their non-existence.

Sure they have a different time-line different future but the entity that signed on to go back must consider it most likely a suicide trip depending on the amount of change that they intend to precipitate.

This brings in the famous discussion between Einstein and Tesla, maybe adds a new flavour to it. Tesla stated "the energy is between the particles".

It is a start. If it comes to anything hopefully some new and helpful physics will be developed.

[Sentient marine]

I have spent considerable time on another board and so my apologies for not posting here as often or keeping up to date as I should have.

This next event centres around Tunguska in Siberia. As I hope you have picked up I am looking at our portion of the universe that is connected and although looking flat from within if seen at a suitable distance would appear to be tube like.

The 'Tunguska Event' that caused an enormous explosion over Siberia in 1908 has not been adequately explained. The eye witness reports say a blue tube of light as bright as the sun passed over and 10 minutes later exploded.

There is no meteorite or asteroid that would take that length of time. The nickle-iridium microscopic glass sphericals indicate a blast of extra terrestrial origin. Meaning only that it did not start from an earth bound event. A microscopic black hole or anti matter have been suggested. Current physics dismisses that notion.

A blast leaving a butterfly shape requires a very special vector velocity and a flat ring like blast. Just because our current theory which is not proven states the micro black hole was not mathematically to our current model does not exclude it if our current model is wrong.

The detonation was 5 to 10 kms above Tunguska with an estimated power of 10 to 20 mega tonnes. A slow moving object 10 minutes visible and effects within the vicinity are not right. There were a series of detonations so if it was a micro black hole as I suspect it was 'burping'.

The micro glass sphericals should be consistent with many other samples even those taken from the lunar soil samples. Due to the remoteness of the area and the date it was not properly investigated until the start of the 1950's. Reports said many had died of boils which was dismissed as a smallpox epidemic, radiation also causes boils.

The micro black hole idea was ruled out as it needed an entry and exit but that would only apply if it had hit the earth. The event horizon itself is matter repulsive although gravity pulls matter towards it. Had it clipped the atmosphere there could have been sufficient mass to keep it travelling on its path without the need to hit the earth.

I have pointed out I hope that super string theorists believe the presence of super stings between us and distant galaxies gravity lens the light leading to the shape of dark matter in the universe. If we were in just such a super string our physics would need to be corrected for a density adjustment.

Given that the micro black holes we will create at CERN are very light and matter repulsive it is possible that they may float until enough matter is collected from the super string to effect a discharge. Given that, being in the same latitude or prevailing wind or simply to the east of the facility posses a significant threat.

Given the situation of the world today if an event like Tunguska happened in the Megiddo zone as 'seen' by the early church it would most likely be met with an all out nuclear response before actual careful analysis.

I am not sure what others are planning but I am trying to politely convince those I know to seek safe earthen shelter high away from coastal waters. A detonation over water is likely to be even more devastating than over land.

I am not an alarmist but a skeptic. I do not believe our scientists fully appreciate what they have the potential to create. So as that is going to happen I feel it is only reasonable that anyone else who wishes to practice healthy skepticism has the opportunity to plan a safe holiday until this experiment can safely be deemed a success.