marriage of gestalt theory and pantheism

magic · **marriage of gestalt theory and pantheism -** 07-21-2007, 09:40 AM

OK, here it is. 35 years in the making. So be nice.

By definition, everything that is, has been, will be and could be comprises that which I name "Everything That Is" (ETI). "Everything" includes everything: hard things, soft things, real things, unreal things, material things (such as rocks and trees and human beings), immaterial things (such as souls and thoughts and dreams and mathematical formulae), and everything in between.

By definition, ETI is the biggest gestalt of all. Jesus is part of ETI. Jehovah is part of ETI. Zeus is part of ETI. Satan is part of ETI. Ahura Mazda is part of ETI. So too is Beelzebub. Baal. Gaia. Quetzalcoatl. ETI encompasses everything for all time and all times: yesterday, today and tomorrow. ETI is in time and out of time. ETI is here, there, everywhere.

Because ETI encompasses all contexts, ETI is context-independent. Because ETI encompasses all values, ETI is values-free, ie does not represent or favour any particular value or set of values over any other. All attributes or qualities are present in ETI. Things that are conscious are part of ETI; consciousness is a quality of ETI. Things that are alive are part of ETI; being alive is a quality of ETI. Things that are dead are part of ETI; being dead is a quality of ETI. ETI is alive and dead: a divine paradox, just like Schroedinger's cat. Things that work towards goals are part of ETI; working towards goals is a quality of ETI.

The purpose and meaning of life is to help ETI to know, experience and understand all aspects of zerself. The purpose and meaning of my life is to help ETI know, understand and experience what it is like to be me. The purpose and meaning of your life is to help ETI know, experience and understand what it is like to be you. The purpose and meaning of ETI's life is to know, experience and understand every part of zerself, including you, me, the girl next door, and a funny shaped rock on the surface of Mars. We are all creators, in fact, we all help create ETI, each creating a particular part for which ze takes ownership and responsibility.

The nature of reality is as follows: ETI. If and when the universe came into being, ETI came into being. If and when the universe dies and vanishes to nothingness, ETI dies and vanishes to nothingness.

Copyright © S R Schwarz 2007. All rights reserved.

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mkirkpatrick · **Re: marriage of gestalt theory and pantheism -** 07-21-2007, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magic

OK, here it is. 35 years in the making. So be nice.

By definition, everything that is, has been, will be and could be comprises that which I name "Everything That Is" (ETI). "Everything" includes everything: hard things, soft things, real things, unreal things, material things (such as rocks and trees and human beings), immaterial things (such as souls and thoughts and dreams and mathematical formulae), and everything in between.

By definition, ETI is the biggest gestalt of all. Jesus is part of ETI. Jehovah is part of ETI. Zeus is part of ETI. Satan is part of ETI. Ahura Mazda is part of ETI. So too is Beelzebub. Baal. Gaia. Quetzalcoatl. ETI encompasses everything for all time and all times: yesterday, today and tomorrow. ETI is in time and out of time. ETI is here, there, everywhere.

Because ETI encompasses all contexts, ETI is context-independent. Because ETI encompasses all values, ETI is values-free, ie does not represent or favour any particular value or set of values over any other. All attributes or qualities are present in ETI. Things that are conscious are part of ETI; consciousness is a quality of ETI. Things that are alive are part of ETI; being alive is a quality of ETI. Things that are dead are part of ETI; being dead is a quality of ETI. ETI is alive and dead: a divine paradox, just like Schroedinger's cat. Things that work towards goals are part of ETI; working towards goals is a quality of ETI.

The purpose and meaning of life is to help ETI to know, experience and understand all aspects of zerself. The purpose and meaning of my life is to help ETI know, understand and experience what it is like to be me. The purpose and meaning of your life is to help ETI know, experience and understand what it is like to be you. The purpose and meaning of ETI's life is to know, experience and understand every part of zerself, including you, me, the girl next door, and a funny shaped rock on the surface of Mars. We are all creators, in fact, we all help create ETI, each creating a particular part for which ze takes ownership and responsibility.

The nature of reality is as follows: ETI. If and when the universe came into being, ETI came into being. If and when the universe dies and vanishes to nothingness, ETI dies and vanishes to nothingness.

Copyright © S R Schwarz 2007. All rights reserved.

portal to the multiverse
wicked and sick
manic memes
mumbo jumbo
very short stories

Thanks Magic,will need to re-read this slowly to see if it casts a "spell" on me?

warm regards michael.

Aireal · **Re: marriage of gestalt theory and pantheism -** 07-25-2007, 11:04 AM

Magic

Though not quite in the words I would have used, but still very close to what I might say.
If only material God had to make the universe out of was God himself. Thus God is everything and everything is God.
Science, like religion or magic, is just another path to understanding God.

Welcome to the forum Magic.
Little Feather

magic · **Re: marriage of gestalt theory and pantheism -** 07-25-2007, 04:24 PM

Thanks Little Feather. It's good to have feedback. I am convinced of the correctness of the views set out in the post. But over the years I have found it hard to get people even to listen let alone agree or disagree. I find that strange because to me the TOE is absolutely logical, simple, almost inevitable in a way. It has huge explanatory power. It provides huge opportunities to resolve superficial differences (eg yes your god is "X" and his god is "Y" and you are both right and both those gods are part of ETI). But to me one of the main opportunities provided by the TOE is that it resolves the war between science and faith. The scientist says "there are powers in the universe, forces at work" The believer says "my god is omnipotent and omnipresent". ETI says "you are both right, you are just using different labels to describe different aspects of me".

Anyway, good to hear from you. I will go now and hunt down your posts which I anticipate I will read with great enjoyment and satisfaction.

Cheers

magic · **Re: marriage of gestalt theory and pantheism -** 07-25-2007, 04:25 PM

Thanks Little Feather. It's good to have feedback. I am convinced of the correctness of the views set out in the post. But over the years I have found it hard to get people even to listen let alone agree or disagree. I find that strange because to me the TOE is absolutely logical, simple, almost inevitable in a way. It has huge explanatory power. It provides huge opportunities to resolve superficial differences (eg yes your god is "X" and his god is "Y" and you are both right and both those gods are part of ETI). But to me one of the main opportunities provided by the TOE is that it resolves the war between science and faith. The scientist says "there are powers in the universe, forces at work" The believer says "my god is omnipotent and omnipresent". ETI says "you are both right, you are just using different labels to describe different aspects of me".

Anyway, good to hear from you. I will go now and hunt down your posts which I anticipate I will read with great enjoyment and satisfaction.

Cheers