The first choice was whether to have inflation or not?
The second choice was when the four forces seperated.
It is as if the Universe behaves like an intelligent creature..
As always, you are making a very interesting remark, Dipayan.
However, intelligent creature indicates in my dictionary someone with experience. Since our universe can be considered a first, there was no prior experience. As such, an intelligent creature is not found at the forefront of creation. Whether we (as all intelligent beings in the universe combined) are the actual shippers of the universe is hard to tell. My best bet made in that direction would be to consider ourselves stewards.
I do not find the discussion of having multiple universes very interesting. The theory of multiple universes postpones the discussion how everything got started; it does not make that discussion go away. As such, I get nothing additional out of the theory, while the theory does throw a cloud of confusion on top of everything.
The wording intelligent design also pleases me only when seen as the design in which intelligence was able to grow. The growth of intelligence does not require a prior intelligent creature, only the opportunity.
__________________ The difference between a structure based on unification and a structure without unification hinges on the question if nothing is just plain nothing or if nothing is mighty fundamental. Read In Search of a Cyclops with titillating mathematical evidence (see homepage) to find out if separation belongs to the fundamental basics of our universe - or not.
The only aspect of Multiple Universe that interests me is that there might be a copy of me out there in the Universe. I wish there wasnt.
However Fredrick, what makes you think our Universe is solitary? Why cant there be
other Universes?
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As always, you are making a very interesting remark, Dipayan.
However, intelligent creature indicates in my dictionary someone with experience. Since our universe can be considered a first, there was no prior experience. As such, an intelligent creature is not found at the forefront of creation. Whether we (as all intelligent beings in the universe combined) are the actual shippers of the universe is hard to tell. My best bet made in that direction would be to consider ourselves stewards.
I do not find the discussion of having multiple universes very interesting. The theory of multiple universes postpones the discussion how everything got started; it does not make that discussion go away. As such, I get nothing additional out of the theory, while the theory does throw a cloud of confusion on top of everything.
The wording intelligent design also pleases me only when seen as the design in which intelligence was able to grow. The growth of intelligence does not require a prior intelligent creature, only the opportunity.
The only aspect of Multiple Universe that interests me is that there might be a copy of me out there in the Universe. I wish there wasnt.
However Fredrick, what makes you think our Universe is solitary? Why cant there be
other Universes?
You are funny, Dipayan,
Now, if there would indeed be a copy of you somewhere out there, would that copy then be wishing you weren't here? I think you have nothing to worry about, Dipayan, I think you are quite unique.
I consider the universe a conglomerate already, Dipayan, so having multiple versions out there of the multiplesI consider our universe to be already does not bring me anything extra.
Just because I can have multiple doors opening up to the same room, I do not consider these multiple doors as pointing to multiple rooms; they open up to the same room (the German word for space is Raum, the same root word as room). Of course other rooms can exist, but the idea of a room is already captured; the space is already framed (even when the doors are the ones that make it impossible to keep the space captive). I do not care about the theory because it does not provide anything extra, except for the fact that multiple theories can indeed get created with the same set of information.
__________________ The difference between a structure based on unification and a structure without unification hinges on the question if nothing is just plain nothing or if nothing is mighty fundamental. Read In Search of a Cyclops with titillating mathematical evidence (see homepage) to find out if separation belongs to the fundamental basics of our universe - or not.
The other 'universes', if any, could very well be out in our own infinite space somewhere far away, coming from an appearance of stuff the same way our local universe came about.
Humans might not even look quite the same or have identical, but in some kind of quantum parallel universe to our own, that may be. ("May be's" are easy to say.) Some think quantum events split reality, one in which, say, you die, and one in which you live, as an extreme example.
What I like about the concept of other universes trying to be, whether independent or not, is that perhaps some made it, like ours, and some didn't, which could explain how some of the 6 or 7 precise universal constants came to remarkably be just right.
I can say exactly the same, Austin, but then with just one universe. I am not saying multiple universes can't be, only that there is nothing additional to be found.
Who says that a single universe cannot have: humans that not even look quite the same or identical, in some kind of quantum parallel way within our universe. Some think quantum events split reality, one in which, say, you die, and one in which you live, as an extreme example.
Whether independent or not, some perhaps made it, like ours, and some didn't, which would explain how some of the 6 or 7 precise universal constants came to remarkably be just right.
And yes: "May be's" are easy to say.
__________________ The difference between a structure based on unification and a structure without unification hinges on the question if nothing is just plain nothing or if nothing is mighty fundamental. Read In Search of a Cyclops with titillating mathematical evidence (see homepage) to find out if separation belongs to the fundamental basics of our universe - or not.
Yes, true, Fredrick, one universe could have had all the luck, if any was needed, for the constants and for evolution to work. We are the proof, the fortunate sons and daughters of being. Maybe any tiny little stuff would have amounted to higher forms or maybe it was the right stuff for reasons unknown.
"Maybe's" are still fun and not dangerous as long as we know they are as such in our thought experiments.
I saw your twin doing bad stuff in your name in Argentina.
P.S. The falls I showed a picture of in the vacation trivia thread are found on/near the border of three countries. Did you get your falls in the same spot?
__________________ The difference between a structure based on unification and a structure without unification hinges on the question if nothing is just plain nothing or if nothing is mighty fundamental. Read In Search of a Cyclops with titillating mathematical evidence (see homepage) to find out if separation belongs to the fundamental basics of our universe - or not.
Yes, Fredrick, I imagine, maybe, but I added the creatures and some flowers to the falls, as well as some glow effect.
I am on the same ninja mission that you are down there; that's how I saw you or your twin. Make sure you are you. As for quantum leaping splits, even to death, your consciousness will follow the live you, for that is what the quantum is controlled by.
Hope I don't get disqualified from a prize, but I am not putting this stuff in that thread.
Also, I just noticed that the file name of your falls picture contains the name of a country in South America.
Yes, Fredrick, I imagine, maybe, but I added the creatures and some flowers to the falls, as well as some glow effect.
I am on the same ninja mission that you are down there; that's how I saw you or your twin. Make sure you are you. As for quantum leaping splits, even to death, your consciousness will follow the live you, for that is what the quantum is controlled by.
Hope I don't get disqualified from a prize, but I am not putting this stuff in that thread.
Also, I just noticed that the file name of your falls picture contains the name of a country in South America.
How is the upside down merry-go-round going?
Now, let's go get those bad guys.
I had (I am back already) a great experience, Austin, being on the other side of the earthly ride we are all partaking in for as long as we are alive. On the other side of the equator, I realized I experience the spinning of the earth as totally fundamental. The sun was in the 'wrong' spot, and I knew that in just a split second - I did not need to follow the trek through the sky for any length of time to know that. Even on the plane going back North I could feel the turning of the earth. Back home, everything felt normal again within two days.
Naturally, there were other clues: the full moon had a different part in top (I'd say 5 o'clock was in the 12 o'clock position), the sun was trekking East to West as usual, but stood in the Northern sky, and walking in the exact opposite direction to go somewhere happened more than once to my partner and me.
Sensing the directional movement of the earth was such a strong experience for me that I also believed various false feedbacks with at times North experienced as South, and at other times East experienced as West (note: both forms of false feedbacks did not occur at the same time, though any form of confusion is of course enough to be temporarily uncertain about the entire set up).
In as far as my twin is concerned, last time I checked I was still me! Next time you see my twin, say 'hi' for me.
__________________ The difference between a structure based on unification and a structure without unification hinges on the question if nothing is just plain nothing or if nothing is mighty fundamental. Read In Search of a Cyclops with titillating mathematical evidence (see homepage) to find out if separation belongs to the fundamental basics of our universe - or not.
The imposter was taken into custody—was formed via an improved Botox. Was an attempt to infiltrate the TOE Center. Lucky he got lost, going the wrong 'north'. Was headed for Antarctica.
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