The holy grail

[gunnar]

hi everyone,

first of all electromagnetic radiation is light made of waves with wavelengths, some of which humans can detect with the eyes and all of which travels about 185,831 miles per second in a vacuum.

energy such as electrical, mechanical, chemical, thermal and nuclear can be transformed from one form to another at a rate equal to the interacting particles of matter (gravity, strong/weak nuclear force and electromagnetic force) squared in a physical body of mass.

so the force of energy is accelerating/inflating 2X faster than a physical environment of energy can be established allowing light to be contained within the system.

gunnar

[SteveA]

Relativity contains a paradox in the conflicting views that a finite light speed is the fastest velocity at which communication occurs and that simultaneously there exists a preexisting space beyond this that can be represented. If matter always moves slower than light speed, there's no manner to actually observe what is beyond this information conveyed via. light.

There is also no mechanism that mainstream physics views appear to present that is capable of having light speed throughout the universe remain at a constant velocity - there's no explanation as to why atoms in one part of the universe can oscillate at frequencies that are in comparable units of time with oscillations elsewhere. These atoms should have no manner to communicate virtually instantaneously, yet they do, if we take the mainstream view literally.

In order to keep everything in the universe synchronized, there can only exist a single fundamental unit of change, or a single process that effectively updates everything one and a time and this would appear to be required to extend beyond our ability to detect these as well. That's a simple mechanism that needs no funny dancing around to work ... it's simply not the one that many physicists have been looking for and so it's rejected and we're left with paradoxes, inexplicable observations, "spooky action at a distance", "shut up and compute" and impossibilities instead.

In mathematics the same academic problem exists in that infinity is often treated vaguely and in differing contexts and this leaves many mathematical solutions indeterminant, yet if a computation is instead rewritten using a single "most infinite" quantity, everything runs like clockwork and precise details can be extracted etc.

I also do a lot of work with digital electronics and software and in logic, there aren't provisions for random identities to be selected (even if their were, if they occurred in some specific order, there is still an equivalent transformation that makes it all a serial computation) or for clock times to not be synchronized (this is an analogy in the second case - the components of a computer would still be synchronized with "universal time", but I'm referring to a design not considering how time synchronization in a computation is suppose to proceed and how temporal mechanisms are in place to coordinate these).

This could not be a process limited to light speed but would be something that could potentially, or in reality does, reconstruct the universe in less time than a thought (because those would be secondary constructions dependent upon it).

[gunnar]

hi SteveA,

so the force of energy travels 2X the speed of light. in relation the force of energy is accelerating/inflating 2X the rate an electromagnetic wavelength can establish itself from one environment to another.

all the while established energy stores all the information ever recieved or experienced and this is present every moment.

thank you for a chance to clarify what is being said.

gunnar

p.s. no doubt some humans are obsessed with limited structures and scales. and all are concepts, mathematics for example is a result of someone figuring out that things could be counted.

[SteveA]

Well I don't know if it's specifically 2x the speed of light (I didn't see where you derived that), but if so, then something else would appear still required to be faster to contain those, if they have any specific properties we could describe as recurring (otherwise they'd simply pass through space, never to be repeated and have any predictable trait). Overall, yes, any force or curvature of space in which light appears to bend would have arise from a process faster than light - there would be no manner to "contain light" otherwise.

An individual photon does not necessarily travel at the speed of light though, which appears to be the flaw in conventional thinking. Photon observations construct a perception of space through which light is interpreted to move, but this allows a photon to move effectively instantly relative to any time or space perceived via. it (and you couldn't have two photons doing this without needing yet another layer of abstraction below that to unite those influences).

As a sidenote, there doesn't appear any way to begin with absolutely nothing and logically derive something from it and so my assumption is that there never was a beginning from nothing in any absolute sense, though it could be that there could appear to be nothing from specific observational perspectives (and I'd consider the universe to be such an instance of all things - so it could, in its specific form have arisen from an appearance of nothing).

I tend to assume it's more of the other way around though and in a sense, we're already experiencing everything relevant to our existence, but that things are superimposed and overlayed etc. (similar to "warped" spacetime) into a perspective that is limited as well as dynamic in time. From that perspective, the universe could be infinite and we see it overlapped into a finite space (and giving us, for example, an appearance of vacuum energy).

Anyway, yes, similar to the manner in which acoustic and electromagnetic forces within water communicate at a much faster velocity than a wave travels, the same is true for wavelength measurements of light, though the actually updating of the statistical wavefunction can occur effectively instantaneously (and should, otherwise we'd need yet another layer/medium/particle etc. to communicate that).

In the end, the only thing that really needs to be preserved for a physical model is the sequential ordering of events - specifically how long these are perceived to have taken is a quality of experience in consciousness (though I think consciousness does use a different rate of time than physical events occur at and there are some accounts that would appear to agree with that as well).

[gunnar]

hi SteveA,

thank you for the communication.

2x is just a number for perspective, a potential energy force could be infinitely faster than light, and maybe the exact speed will never be known.

the point is principles that govern an energy environment like this one have basically been established. as sush a principle understanding of the only possible origin can be recognized. likewise, what is occuring at the event horizon and beyond can be understood in principle.

potential energy is used in this work to describe a force of motion among other things. while this may not be technically accurate, the idea of what is being said is put into context with content.

the force in motion establishing environments of potential energy lays the foundation for the physical properties of energy to be released. a force of potential energy would have less resistence inflating into nothing than an electromagnetic wavelength that is dependent on the interacting properties of an established physical energy environment.

while a force of potential energy could possibly absorb light, due to its undeveloped physical structure would not be able to emit it.

so as a function of established energy an electromagnetic force would not be responsible for expansion beyond the event horizon. it is more likely that electromagnetic wavelengths are responsible for expanding the event horizon.

light would be the form of established energy that reaches the layer of potential energy force beyond the event horizon first. upon arrival electromagnetic wavelengths would slow down and at the same time energize and accelerate the conversion process of potential energy into physical energy at a rate close to the speed of light.

thank you again for taking the time to reply to these simple posts with a more technical understanding. it has helped to get these thoughts more organized.

gunnar

[gunnar]

hi everyone,

it was understood long ago that in principle E=mc2 states energy can be converted into mass and mass can be converted into energy. about the same time it was recognized that to understand the specific details of such things would consume a large amount of time (and after all the result of such work is a principle understanding).

so while attempts to communicate about such things with specific detail are sometimes not perfect, the understanding of it in principle is correct.

not only does the work found at www.finalcopy.comyr.com prove itself forwards and backwards with structure, science is confirming it correct with every new detail discovered.

gunnar

[gunnar]

hi everyone,

the matter of mass energy in relation to space and time is relevant.

however, using incomplete artificial scales and structures that isolate and minipulate energy is limited in every way at a point.

the foundation of space is infinite with energy mass constantly being experienced in a matter of time.

whole parts of energy express in every way what is. and this has a foundation - www.finalcopy.comyr.com

gunnar

[gunnar]

hi everyone,

while the description of energy at www.finalcopy.comyr.com is not in a traditional manner, it is accurate. pages 3-5 outlines the form of energy, and along with a "neutral concept" gives examples in principle allowing an outline of energy function that works in every application.

it seems that this is being overlooked, or not looked into with any kind of depth. thats too bad, because it does allow all energy potentials/forms/forces to be united and correctly identified without exception.

gunnar

[gunnar]

while a force of potential energy could possibly absorb light, due to its undeveloped physical structure would not be able to emit it.

hi everyone,

at the event horizon a form of friction (resistance to motion) is occuring.

also, initially its likely simple replication allows energy conditions to become established and complex enough for recycling...

gunnar

[gunnar]

hi everyone,

the matter of mass energy in relation to space and time is relevant.

however, using incomplete artificial scales and structures that isolate and minipulate energy is limited in every way at a point.

the foundation of space is infinite with energy mass constantly being experienced in a matter of time.

whole parts of energy express in every way what is. and this has a foundation - www.finalcopy.comyr.com

gunnar

hi everyone,

in the above statements matter refers to a subject (field of knowledge)... not the material substance that occupies space.

this is a good example of why matter is rarely use in sentence structure-too many meanings.

gunnar