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02-29-2008, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger I remember it well
Felix | If you're only half alive, Felix, is the cup half-full or half-empty? And would absolutely full or absolutely empty render the same state? | | | | 1st degree Black Belt
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02-29-2008, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by N0B0DY If you're only half alive, Felix, is the cup half-full or half-empty? And would absolutely full or absolutely empty render the same state? | Sorry Nobody - I am fully alive since finding this site and discovering that my own theory, which is properly called Objective Collapse, does away with the need for Bohr's interpretation. Erwin only compiled the experiment to show how ridiculous Copenhagen was.
Either way, you're one to talk about half empty as your 'Nothing' theory must be totally empty.
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02-29-2008, 02:42 PM
| | Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here) My cup is absolutely empty, Felix, exactly. The question remains then, what would it be absolutely filled with? | | | | 9th degree Black Belt Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,941
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02-29-2008, 02:46 PM
| | Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here) I think if your Objective Collapse can be linked to observational collapse, the Subjective Collapse might then be linked to subservient collapse.
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02-29-2008, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by N0B0DY My cup is absolutely empty, Felix, exactly. The question remains then, what would it be absolutely filled with? | Nothing of course! | | | | 1st degree Black Belt
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02-29-2008, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by N0B0DY I think if your Objective Collapse can be linked to observational collapse, the Subjective Collapse might then be linked to subservient collapse. Do you have a site, Felix? | No I don't have a site but I will write this up in an article shortly
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02-29-2008, 05:52 PM
| | Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here) Would you be able to stick your finger in my cup then, Felix?
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02-29-2008, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by N0B0DY My cup is absolutely empty, Felix, exactly. The question remains then, what would it be absolutely filled with? | Absolute fullness.
Best,
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02-29-2008, 08:32 PM
| | Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here) That would equate absolutely everything with absolutely nothing, not2too, and that is the whole point; both abstract extremes merge as the same impenetrable state of the absolute universe.
I had mentioned in Michael's (the Moderator of ToeQuest) thread, " Consciousness holds the key. to the T.O.E." that if the TOE is representative of the Theory of Everything, everything can be equated with nothing, and the relative functioning of consciousness lies between the two above abstract extremes, then consciousness would hold the key to relativity.
The Absolute Theory is based on no time because the absolute universe transcends all timeframes at absolute speed, but a new Altered Relativity which combines General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics can explain how observable reality is created incrementally as time - abstract motion (time) creates spatial dimensions as mass, dependent upon the acceleration of space. The acceleration of which is limited to "c" in the observable universe because that is the maximum rate at which the mind can process potential information. | | | | 3rd degree Black Belt
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02-29-2008, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by N0B0DY I think free will is circumstantial, John. The average individual may think that there is free will, but there are many folks who are hard-pressed to choose circumstances other than those they are under. Like you said, we have to know how to ride the wave to prevent mishap, but that only applies if we are separate from the wave and sand.
Perhaps then, people have chosen to separate themselves for selfish reasons they are unaware of. If the whole earth were a mere cell of your body, its waves and sand would have a negligible effect on you. Then maybe people aren't really what they make themselves out to be. | Hi Nobody:
It seems this is one place we may differ.
The general thought is that all the choices are made as a result of the environment conditions and who we are. They believe there is no free will because of this. But free will is not the freedom to choose, it is the freedom to CALCULATE how best to direct our life. You are correct all the variables are already set. However the ability to access all of the variables is not yet within our grasp. As you said your self in the B movie you only get to see the variables that result in a B movie, when just below our perception of them are the variables that could change this B movie into a masterpiece. There is also the wild card that is imagination and creativity. This allows us to guess at variables that we can not quite reach. I should not need to tell you about the wild card you play it often enough yourself. I live and breath there for I have guessed at its value a long time ago. Free will is the freedom to calculate not the freedom to choose.
All things would be predetermined if we had access to all of the variables, but we don’t. Think about how unlikely this predetermination is. As soon as one change or mistake is made, all predetermination is GONE.
John.
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