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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    Special note for Dave et al. (other scientists):

    There is a New ToN being put in absolute motion (stillness), re: Isaac Newton's absolute space and absolute time; and Einstein's relative spacetime.

    If you care to dare to go the distance...(O_o)...Zeno/Zero...0/0...(New math - simplified - by Nobody Nowhere = (Now here)).

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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    "The Tao that may be called Tao is not the invariable Tao. The names that can be named are not the invariable names. Non-being is the term given to the form from which heaven and earth sprang. Being is the term given to the mother that rears the ten thousand things. Of the invariable non-being, we wish to see its secret essences. Of the invariable being, we wish to see its borders. These two have issued together but are different in name. The two together we call the mystery. It is the mystery of mysteries, the doorway of all secret essences." - Derke Bodde (Tao Te Ching), 1937

    This is the interpretational zero-dimensional starting point I refer to as the gateway to the mastery of illusion (reality). The one and none are the same abstractive state which produces the illusory dimensional reality. The sacred tone - amen, aum, om - is based on the unification of the ton (theory of nothing) and the toe (theory of everything); two non-existent absolutes serving as the absolute container - @ absolute velocity - for all phenomena @ variable time-dependent velocities.

    Amen...

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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    The most beautiful and most profound experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.” - Albert Einstein, The Merging of Spirit and Science

    There has been mention of the physical being unrelated to the spiritual, but that interpretation lies at the heart of separation; and I think Einstein’s goal of unification was not attained due his – understandably, like most individuals – clinging to real things. As is the case above, by implying an impenetrable unknown existence “really exists” in lieu of the known not really existing without time and space.

    We can be directed to deductions based on time and space extending eternally and infinitely, and infer an eternal and infinite existence; or we can extend what is observable and theoretical to the absolute point to deduce the cause of time and space. Since existence depends upon time and space, and time and space are dimensional (relative, time-dependent spatial extensions), without such extensions there can be no existence.

    From the above we can infer, then, that the zero-dimensional point is representative of Newton’s absolute space and time, and merged with Einstein’s hypothesized “spacetime,” imply absolute spacetime as the non-existent basis for relativity and the realization of Einstein’s unified goal (absolute unification).

    This can only be feasible if there is no concept of a literal point extending to other points because all points along the extended dimensions overlap which renders a single non-existent zero-dimensional point. So the impenetrable state I propose is not impenetrable because of primitive understand, but because there is nothing “out there” to consciously understand that is not encoded in the DNA (an encoding based on the time it takes to process potential information).

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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    Quote Originally Posted by N0B0DY View Post
    The most beautiful and most profound experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.” - Albert Einstein, The Merging of Spirit and Science

    From the above we can infer, then, that the zero-dimensional point is representative of Newton’s absolute space and time, and merged with Einstein’s hypothesized “spacetime,” imply absolute spacetime as the non-existent basis for relativity and the realization of Einstein’s unified goal (absolute unification).
    I don't see any such inference???
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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    I wouldn't either, Felix, if I were to skip two paragraphs.

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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    Quote Originally Posted by N0B0DY View Post
    I wouldn't either, Felix, if I were to skip two paragraphs.
    I didn't find that the omitted paragraphs added anything.

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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger View Post
    I didn't find that the omitted paragraphs added anything.
    The whole point is to take away the penetrable dimensions in order to realize that the impenetrable state cannot be understood because it is zero-dimensional; observers require time-dependent dimensions in order to understand the observable universe.

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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    "A successful unification of quantum theory and relativity would necessarily be a theory of the universe as a whole. It would tell us, as Aristotle and Newton did before, what space and time are, what the cosmos is, what things are made of, and what kind of laws those things obey. Such a theory will bring about a radical shift - a revolution - in our understanding of what nature is. It must also have wide repercussions, and will likely bring about, or contribute to, a shift in our understanding of ourselves and our relationship to the rest of the universe...

    "It can no longer be maintained that the properties of any one thing in the universe are independent of the existence or non-existence of everything else. It is, at last, no longer sensible to speak of a universe with only one thing in it." (Lee Smolin, Life of the Cosmos, 1997)

    I would further posit that the one thing is insensible due to it necessitating an absolute which cannot exist.

    The one is the equivalent of none; and by default of "0/0" provides the potential means of differentiation and change, both of which are the basis for the theories of Relativity and Evolution respectively.

    (Special thanks to Lloyd G., who indirectly directed us to Smolin.)

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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    As long as we identify with a "self". There will always be a "someone" to not "see it".

    Nothing to see and no one to see it.

    Become the "seeing".

    Every "Seer" knows this.

    In truth there is only one seeing, no seer to see and nothing to see, and that's it.

    Be That.

    Any you that you propose that can see . . . is just being seen through . . . by the One, The One . . . appearing as the many.

    To get beyond it, "you" must accept that "you" are "nothing", and "It" . . . or "That" is all there is to it [this].

    Intuit.

    If you catch the drift.

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    I don't see any such inference???
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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    Timeless and Eternal are synonymous:

    TIMELESS;

    adj.
    1. Independent of time; eternal.
    2. Unaffected by time; ageless. See synonyms at ageless.
    3. Archaic. Untimely or premature.
    timelessly time'less·ly adv.
    timelessness time'less·ness n.


    Quote Originally Posted by N0B0DY View Post
    Zach,

    It was a rather good start, and the problem I see is that the common knowledge is not necessarily the correct knowledge. We have to use our own little beans to discover our own knowledge. There isn't a scientist alive who knows what the correct structure of an atom is, no matter how smart they are. This site however is very tolerant and we can share ideas, and arguments, with others to make up our minds.

    Physical existence, for instance, can be thought of as concretely existing in a particular place and time. Even what is commonly thought to be non-physical, like goodness or intelligence, can be said to have originated at a particular time and place. On the other hand, nothing can not have any existence because there can be no place and time for it to exist. For this reason I say that time is the basis for everything, every concept, all information, to observably exist because without time there can be no time to exist.

    I propose that all times are extensions from points that have no place and time, and therefore there is really no particular time and space at all. The model I propose is therefore based on abstract objects and processes that serve as the basis for relativity and evolution, two of the great theories of today. I remain until it is proven otherwise to myself, that any literal model is logically impossible to be correct. You can never literally walk into a place that isn't there, and in the absolute universe there is literally no place to walk to no matter how much time (eternity) is granted.


 

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