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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    The heart does all my dancing and singing these days, and that's how I know.
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    This film i enjoyed very much, if you haven't seen it.

    Make sure it is a film to see before you don't die

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xRYU4cqUAUs

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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
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    This film i enjoyed very much, if you haven't seen it.

    Make sure it is a film to see before you don't die

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xRYU4cqUAUs
    Grateful, Melanie.love&regards.ls

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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

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    I agree nobody 'now' implies time, but it is neither and both,in the absolute sense - no concept in mind -

    how about 'presence' would that be a better description of timeless 'now' ?



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    Isn't That which 'sees' (the universe) not invisible; even to itself?
    But this does not say it is behind or in front of anything.
    Today I'll call it Presence.
    The absolute would have to be inclusive of neither inside nor outside; neither visible nor invisible.

    There can be things that are visible and things that are invisible, but absolute non existence transcends both. We can liken the absolute state to the quantum jump which has no transition. So the absolute universe requires no time to reach any "place."

    Presence, to me, still implies a place to be present, and in order to have a place there must be an extension of time.

    Simply, slowing down the absolute universe, @ absolute speed, creates relative timeframes that allow for relative conceptions and percetions of sensory time.

    There is neither interior nor exterior in the following photo, which leads to the realization that what is in between is an abstract existence based on the two abstract absolute perspectives - the absolute outside and inside, which are fully-expanded and fully-contracted simultaneously.


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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

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    Envision a mirage. Our thoughts create our reality. But are thoughts real? Tere simply describe our imaginations. And that is awesome.

    "I am the consumate artist, I draw upon my imagination." Uncle Einstein

    The dream has become its own dream of their existence, ‘and they live their dreams forever awake'.



    Love and reincarnation.
    "Did you ever feel," She said, "that you're missing someone you have never met?"

    Richard Bach from The Bridge Across Forever

    If real eternal soulmates exist then reincarnation must exist. We travel through existence trying to understand what and who we are… We are trying to find the one we love - our other. To do this we must find ourselves.

    To find our true love we must find who and what we are; knowing we are the universe. We are searching for each other forever…finding each other…loving, losing, finding again… trying to see more, to become aware of something more which we sense is there.

    This is what the universe is. Not a pattern, ether, energy fields, positive and negative, Yin and Yang, balance of forces, God or Nirvana. The universe is a Woman/girl and a Man/boy desperately trying to find her or his Self and each other in the darkness of their beings. The light, the sight, the touch, is consciousness. We have to live through trials, through pain, loss, insanity, indignity and injustice; we have to do this to awaken: it is the only way…and the story is played out an infinite number of times, in pairs.

    In researching for my book, The Science of Soulmates, which started as deducing the meaning of existence through evidence and logic, soulmates emerged as the whole reason for existence. Soulmates answered all the necessary questions and objections for a higher meaning to existence.

    The only meaning that worked, the only meaning that made sense, and a meaning has to make sense, is that the universe is Two. Two fundamental energies, the source of all of us, male and female… and we are their dream selves. Also there is scientific evidence of two energy fields underlying existence that are uniquely male and female.

    If the Ultimate Beings [Evidence] are two, then we must evolve in twos. That is, we journey through lifetimes always connected to one other.

    If the story of existence is the ultimate Woman and the ultimate Man desperately trying to awaken to, and find one another, this must also be our story. Somehow through our soul's evolution we must become entwined with another soul who becomes our one and only true love.

    This must happen because the Ultimate Beings are only two; that is, one relates only to one other, so in order for the integrity of the source of existence to be kept, consciousness must reflect this union. But how can this come about? From the infinite number of souls that come into being, how do two become intimately linked and special to one another? To answer this we must keep in mind that if there is an ultimate meaning to existence then nothing occurs by accident. The universe must be set up in accordance with that meaning, so each pair of soulmate's adventure through lifetimes is written within the design.

    In other words, the adventure of an individual pair of soulmates comes from one of the infinite dreams of the Ultimate Beings. If we think of the ultimate Woman and Man for a moment as ordinary, everyday woman and man with distinct natures, or personalities, and then imagine them as characters in a book or movie, we can see how different plots or adventures could evoke different aspects of their nature. We could observe different sides of each character's personality unfold depending on what they went through. While their natures are still theirs and remain the source of who they are, the adventures they go through force latent aspects of their nature to emerge.

    We have probably all heard someone say, ‘I didn't think she had it in her', or, ‘I saw a whole new side to him that I didn't think he had'. These comments are made when we see someone, whom we thought we knew well, meet a challenge in his or her life that reveals a part of that person previously unknown to us.

    Similarly, this is what each of the infinite dreams of the Ultimate Beings would be doing: evoking into awareness different parts of the Ultimate Beings' nature that would otherwise remain unknown and not experienced. For the Ultimate Beings to fully awaken, there need to be many adventures, or types of experiences that would draw out into awareness the depths of their natures.

    Each pair of soulmates adventuring through lifetimes would accomplish this; with each pair forming one of the infinite dreams of the Ultimate Beings. And as each dream would bring out different aspects of the Ultimate Beings natures, the particular nuance of the nature that is evoked belongs solely to the pair of soulmates that evoked it.

    No pair of soulmates would be exactly alike even though its source was the same. Each pair's nature is made up of whatever part of the Ultimate Beings' nature its lifetime experiences evoked. We can use the seed/flower analogy to help understand the true individuality of each pair of soulmates.

    This is that each of the infinite dreams of the Ultimate Beings is like a seed. The beauty of the flower that blooms from the dream is you and your soulmate, and as the flower is no longer a seed, but something of itself, so you and your soulmate are something of yourselves. As each of the dream seeds become different flowers with different fragrances and beauty, so too each pair of soulmates comes into its own beauty of existence.

    The dream has become its own dream of their existence, ‘and they live their dreams forever awake'.


    Um! What a lovely story No seriously, 'who could not dream of this'

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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    = Nobody:
    Presence, to me, still implies a place to be present, and in order to have a place there must be an extension of time

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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    This is an interesting article.

    http://www.crystalinks.com/walk_ins.html


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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    I would agree with both points with one caveat, this thing or no-thing we call "Presence" is, without reservation or expectation, relative to rudementary consciousness, other worldly.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melanie
    I agree nobody 'now' implies time, but it is neither and both,in the absolute sense - no concept in mind -

    how about 'presence' would that be a better description of timeless 'now' ?



    Quote:
    Isn't That which 'sees' (the universe) not invisible; even to itself?
    But this does not say it is behind or in front of anything.
    Today I'll call it Presence.



    Quote Originally Posted by N0B0DY View Post
    The absolute would have to be inclusive of neither inside nor outside; neither visible nor invisible.

    There can be things that are visible and things that are invisible, but absolute non existence transcends both. We can liken the absolute state to the quantum jump which has no transition. So the absolute universe requires no time to reach any "place."

    Presence, to me, still implies a place to be present, and in order to have a place there must be an extension of time.

    Simply, slowing down the absolute universe, @ absolute speed, creates relative timeframes that allow for relative conceptions and percetions of sensory time.

    There is neither interior nor exterior in the following photo, which leads to the realization that what is in between is an abstract existence based on the two abstract absolute perspectives - the absolute outside and inside, which are fully-expanded and fully-contracted simultaneously.


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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    There are no causes in the observable world.
    The observable world is a world of effects.
    Our effectiveness reduces itself to our inability to discriminate between the essential and the non-essential. Our means of evaluation themselves have been inherently incapable of performing realistic appraisal.

    The main obstacle to man's developement, is his lack of knowledge about the nature of consciousness itself. It is apparent that the notion that our actions are based on thoughtful decisions is a grand illusion.
    The decision making process is a function of consciousness itself; the mind makes choices based on millions of pieces of data, and their correlations and projections, far beyond conscious comprehension, and with enormous rapidity. This is a global function dominated by the energy patterns that the new science of non-linear dynamics terms attractors.

    Consciousness automatically chooses what it deems best from moment to moment because that ultimately is the only function of which it is capable. The relative weight and merit given to certain data are determined by a predominant attractor pattern operating in the individual or in a collective group of minds. These patterns can be identified, described, and calibrated; and out of that information arises a totally new understanding of human behavior, history, and the destiny of mankind.

    Quote Originally Posted by N0B0DY View Post
    The absolute would have to be inclusive of neither inside nor outside; neither visible nor invisible.

    There can be things that are visible and things that are invisible, but absolute non existence transcends both. We can liken the absolute state to the quantum jump which has no transition. So the absolute universe requires no time to reach any "place."

    Presence, to me, still implies a place to be present, and in order to have a place there must be an extension of time.

    Simply, slowing down the absolute universe, @ absolute speed, creates relative timeframes that allow for relative conceptions and percetions of sensory time.

    There is neither interior nor exterior in the following photo, which leads to the realization that what is in between is an abstract existence based on the two abstract absolute perspectives - the absolute outside and inside, which are fully-expanded and fully-contracted simultaneously.


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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)

    One way to become more proficient at this process is ~Impartial Self-Observation, ~The Core of The Inner Work.

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    Re: Nothing by Nobody Nowhere (No Where = Now Here)


    this thing or no-thing we call "Presence" is, without reservation or expectation, relative to rudementary consciousness, other worldly.


 

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