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Having made these points clear, the writer's own answer as to what the content of the teaching should be can be summarized very shortly:

For young children, it should be suitable stories, both
scriptural and traditional, from all the world's religions.

At the next stage, it should have outlines of the lives and teachings of the founders of the living religions, and perhaps even of the founders of some religions no longer living, such as Akhnaton of Egypt.

At the next stage, studies of outstanding passages in the world's sacred books.

Trees (and religions) must be judged by their fruits, and since no one of the world's faiths can claim a monopoly of good fruits, children should be taught the facts about them all, in order that they may grow up free from the bigotry and superiority complex that cripple the minds of those whose early instruction is narrow and dogmatic.

In other words, they should be taught, not just this or that particular religion, but the perennial, universal truths which are at the root of all. And since it is useless to expect that teaching such as this will be given in the home, it would seem that all religious instruction given in schools should be along these lines. SO LONG AS SCHOOL INSTRUCTION ALSO REMAINS IN THE
HANDS OF PEOPLE WHOSE CHIEF CONCERN IS TO PROSELYTIZE FOR ONE PARTICULAR FAITH, JUST SO LONG WILL CHILDREN CONTINUE TO GROW UP EITHER WITH NARROW, EXCLUSIVE NOTIONS ABOUT RELIGION OR WITH NO INTEREST IN IT AT ALL, AS AT PRESENT.

It is unfortunately true that at the moment there are almost as few teachers as parents with the necessary interest and knowledge to teach in this way, but that is a fault that can fairly quickly be remedied if the matter is taken in hand by training centers and colleges and insisted upon in all State and State-aided schools. We teach citizenship as a matter of course these days,
but who can be said to have had an adequate course in that subject if he has been brought up in ignorance of or with distorted ideas about the religion and customs of his fellow-citizens? When the State takes the matter up and insists on teaching religion as impartially and thoroughly as it teaches other subjects, there will at last be some hope of doing away with the rivalry and bitterness and misunderstanding that at present rend India in pieces and cast such a dark cloud over a future otherwise bright with hope and promise.
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Isn't this OSHO? with a flair, just curious. =-)

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Perhaps Osha interprets eternity as timeless as well, but it still implies to me an infinite extension of time.

In other words, eternity is time never ending, whereas absolute timelessness has absolutely no time.

Alot of the ancient texts have been interpreted as matter of fact, but when digested we can see that the gateway spoken of cannot be about eternity or bliss. It can only be the means of getting to point B - fully-evolved - in no time. Otherwise it takes eternity to never get "there."
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Having made these points clear, the writer's own answer as to what the content of the teaching should be can be summarized very shortly:

For young children, it should be suitable stories, both
scriptural and traditional, from all the world's religions.

At the next stage, it should have outlines of the lives and teachings of the founders of the living religions, and perhaps even of the founders of some religions no longer living, such as Akhnaton of Egypt.

At the next stage, studies of outstanding passages in the world's sacred books.

Trees (and religions) must be judged by their fruits, and since no one of the world's faiths can claim a monopoly of good fruits, children should be taught the facts about them all, in order that they may grow up free from the bigotry and superiority complex that cripple the minds of those whose early instruction is narrow and dogmatic.

In other words, they should be taught, not just this or that particular religion, but the perennial, universal truths which are at the root of all. And since it is useless to expect that teaching such as this will be given in the home, it would seem that all religious instruction given in schools should be along these lines. SO LONG AS SCHOOL INSTRUCTION ALSO REMAINS IN THE
HANDS OF PEOPLE WHOSE CHIEF CONCERN IS TO PROSELYTIZE FOR ONE PARTICULAR FAITH, JUST SO LONG WILL CHILDREN CONTINUE TO GROW UP EITHER WITH NARROW, EXCLUSIVE NOTIONS ABOUT RELIGION OR WITH NO INTEREST IN IT AT ALL, AS AT PRESENT.

It is unfortunately true that at the moment there are almost as few teachers as parents with the necessary interest and knowledge to teach in this way, but that is a fault that can fairly quickly be remedied if the matter is taken in hand by training centers and colleges and insisted upon in all State and State-aided schools. We teach citizenship as a matter of course these days,
but who can be said to have had an adequate course in that subject if he has been brought up in ignorance of or with distorted ideas about the religion and customs of his fellow-citizens? When the State takes the matter up and insists on teaching religion as impartially and thoroughly as it teaches other subjects, there will at last be some hope of doing away with the rivalry and bitterness and misunderstanding that at present rend India in pieces and cast such a dark cloud over a future otherwise bright with hope and promise.
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interesting to me above is in varied form I subscribe to the same, when it comes to learning children must be given a wide range of information and experience so noticeable being limited in the dysfunctional adult persona every where ... all the time ... an damn if i know at times how one persevere through it so long.

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It is sad but true, and unfortunate, that life in general doesn't come with an Instruction Manuel.

But still, I can't help but maintain that, This, must be a Blessing!



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Sorry Mel, [btw, I think the appropriate answer below is "Como"?
What I meant was, If it was easy, anybody could do it. Comprende` amigo?
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