[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by analog

Hey Dave,

Has any of your number crunching ever led you to believe that the entire universe (FS/aether) would have a type of Schwarzschild radius, whereby any lesser degree of expansion (after the initial event/bang/collision) inevitably reverts all random motion back to total uniform linear motion (through the process of structured matter formed by angular momentum) as it was in the initial absolute zero state, but once that degree of expansion (radius) is exceeded, all uniform motions are doomed to eventually become totally randomized causing the universe to forever be in a state of expansion; thus the initial state of absolute zero will never be universal again?

Do you think there is currently enough structured matter formed by angular momentum (uniform motion) to eventually slow the expansion (caused by random motion) and revert it back to a condensing universe causing an increasing spatial density; thus a universal blueshift of propagating light?

Hi Tim;
As I’ve stated in my blog, mass is a function of uniform motion so I don’t think a true Schwarzschild radius can exist. I don’t see the universe evolving to total chaos or randomized motion (entropy) but just the opposite; the randomized motion is being converted back to one of the forms of uniform motion. Eventually the deep space Aether will be absorbed and the structured matter will start to convert the random motions of the elementary particles until they evolve to a particle of fundamental substance with only uniform motion (mass without energy).

I don’t believe the universe can recombine its FS unless it has a physical FS boundary that is collecting the FS like an outer shell; if this is so then the “Big Crunch” is very probable. That type of structure of the universe would also account for the mysterious acceleration red-shift of the far galaxies.

[analog]

Hey Dave,

Originally Posted by dleviwing

As I’ve stated in my blog, mass is a function of uniform motion so I don’t think a true Schwarzschild radius can exist.

As you can tell, I was kind of using the schwarzschild radius out of context there; more of a ratio of uniform motion to random motion of the entire aether (universe), and the radius a given ratio would produce; but I am curious if the actual definition and formula for it would have any correlation with a meaningful degree of absolute velocity/absolute zero state. Just furthering my thoughts of black holes as they plausibly relate to the absolute zero state.

Originally Posted by dleviwing

I don’t see the universe evolving to total chaos or randomized motion (entropy) but just the opposite; the randomized motion is being converted back to one of the forms of uniform motion. Eventually the deep space Aether will be absorbed and the structured matter will start to convert the random motions of the elementary particles until they evolve to a particle of fundamental substance with only uniform motion (mass without energy).

Wouldn't a state of "mass without energy" (i.e., condensed particle of fundamental substance with no internally bound EM waves/random motion), only be attainable by means of linear uniform motion, as this would have to be a transitional phase from the boundary established by angular momentum converting to absolute linear velocity? I would imagine this as a condensed volume with increasing linear velocity and a slight uniform rotation of the entire volume whereby causing it to be just a few degrees from being at absolute linear velocity/absolute zero state.

Wouldn't the immediate surrounding spatial density have to have gotten extremely high once again to allow/assist this acceleration?

Originally Posted by dleviwing

I don’t believe the universe can recombine its FS unless it has a physical FS boundary that is collecting the FS like an outer shell; if this is so then the “Big Crunch” is very probable. That type of structure of the universe would also account for the mysterious acceleration red-shift of the far galaxies.

Are you referring to an outer shell boundary of the entire universe here, established by a type of universal angular momentum which reflects back the propagating EM waves; similar to the boundary formed by the angular momentum of structured matter at the atomic scale , or did I get confused?

I've been working on some new thoughts to share, but I'm having trouble staying focused. Lately, my imagination has been writing checks that my intellect is having trouble cashing........My learning has stalled a bit.

It's frustrating to reach out for the blurred thoughts glimmering at the edge of your mind, those which you can feel their importance even before you have a good view of them, but then you lack the intellectual strength to take hold of them and bring them into focus.


Regards,

Tim

[dleviwing]

Hi Tim;
As you know there are several forms of “uniform motion”. When the “Absolute Motion” of an object is totally in a state of one of these forms of uniform motion all it has is mass; mass however can be considered “potential energy”. Remember, to have “energy” and object must convert mass or as taught in HS, convert potential energy to another form of energy. Let’s look at a few of the possible states of total uniform motion:

1.. The object has total angular velocity. Any iteration with such an object would result in the object deflecting and thus converting some angular uniform motion to linear uniform motion; no change in its mass.

2.. The object has a combination of angular velocity and wave symmetry (vibrations at a single wavelength). Again interaction with an object such as this would not change its mass, only its type of uniform motion.

3.. The object has absolute linear velocity. Most interactions with this object is also deflection but this object has absolute bonding and cannot convert to a different type of absolute motion. Only a head on collision of such an object within a critical angel can convert the absolute motion of this object. If the quantities of substance of these objects are also within the critical value, the shock wave forms randomized interference and the objects expands or maybe for a better term, it inflates; mass of the object changes.

The object described in #3 also would acquire angular velocity so I tend to believe the universe is an object with angular momentum and thus a real physical boundary that reflects EM radiation; why else would the background radiation even exist, let known be so uniform? (just a retorical question)

Does this make sense to you?

BTW: Intelligence is a measure of how well one thinks, not on how much knowledge one acquires. Your thinking measures-up very well Tim; you have the ability to create the knowledge for others to learn.

[analog]

Makes good sense Dave, but here's a couple of questions regarding it:

We wouldn't view examples #1 and #2 as though they were at absolute zero with only one degree of freedom though would we, as this would only be defined by absolute linear velocity (i.e. example #3) whereby causing its inability to convert to a different type of absolute motion?

Would it be plausible that #1 and #3 cause two different types of condensation, as total uniform motion contained as total angular velocity (#1) would condense towards its center from all directions like a sphere, but its diameter would vary depending on its mass (amount of uniform motion contained by the total angular velocity); but total uniform motion due to absolute linear velocity (#3) would be condensed only perpendicular to the direction of travel due to it being a function of a conversion from angular velocity over time, whereby it would represent a lower limit diameter unattainable by #1? (further explained in next question)

Wouldn't it take a collection of #1's to produce a #3 as a condensed universe full of #1's would be a final stage to a return to the initial universal state of absolute linear velocity, whereby they keep bumping into each other converting their total angular velocity to total linear velocity, as they run out of room to move due to their absorption of random motion causing the spatial condensation?

Thanks for the help,

Tim

[analog]

Hello again Dave,

I often like to change my thinking around to stimulate my learning, whereby I try to think of different analogies which can be used to explain my thoughts.

In doing so, I made this statement the other day in another thread:

"The loss in recorded measurement (frequency) of the moving clock in Einstein's Relativity was conserved through its acceleration, being as the clock is actually doing the dilating. Both clocks experienced the same amount of absolute motion during the experiment, and if we relate linear velocity to wavelength; the moving clock experienced an increased wavelength; thus decreased frequency (recorded time), while the rest clock experienced a shorter wavelength; thus increased frequency. The moving clock would have also been closer to absolute zero temperature."

This got me to thinking.

What if we viewed the system as a function of wavelength, frequency and amplitude, while also mixing in some other electrical concepts. The initial state of ALV (absolute linear velocity) of the entire aether could be viewed as though it was a DC pulse. Let’s say that corresponds to an absolute lower diameter (ALD) of condensation perpendicular to the direction of travel.

While in this state, the aether would be traveling at its maximum absolute linear distance per absolute unit of time (absolute linear velocity). There would be no internal instances of relative time because there would be no internal random motions (i.e. EM waves) to give rise to contrasting relative motions.

Now, let’s slow the entire aether down below ALV uniformly as a whole. At this stage we could view it as an AC pulse, which could be plotted as a sine wave the same as we would plot an alternating voltage; plotted perpendicular to the linear direction of travel. The sine wave would contain an amplitude, wavelength, and frequency. We can leave wavelength and frequency inversely proportional to each other, and there product would equal the absolute linear velocity (absolute linear distance ÷ absolute unit of time), but rather than just measuring wavelength in distance (i.e. length) it too is measured as a linear velocity with its absolute linear distance ÷ the same absolute unit of time; thus frequency would be the representation of the conservation of absolute linear velocity when any wavelength was less than the original DC pulse at ALV, as it would represent the missing absolute linear distance traveled during that absolute unit of time:

Absolute linear distance=ALD
Absolute unit of time=AUT
Actual absolute linear distance traveled=AD
Actual absolute linear distance traveled at any degree other than the one degree of absolute linear velocity=OD

ALV (ALD ÷ AUT) = wavelength (AD ÷ AUT) × frequency (OD ÷ AUT)

Generally any ratio of wavelength to frequency will travel the same linear distance during the same interval of time; thus a generator turning at 500 hertz (30,000 rpm) will have a longer wavelength than one turning at 1000 hertz (60,000 rpm) due to the increase in acceleration squeezing more work into the same unit of time; EM radiation from each travels linearly at the same speed, so no matter what the wavelength or frequency linear distance per unit of time would be constant.

What I'm trying to represent is an analogy where wavelength and frequency have a product of an absolute linear distance traveled per absolute unit of time, but their ratio represents relative time I guess.

Frequency thus becomes a representation of the allowable amount of angular momentum, vibration and random motion that can take place within an absolute unit of time with a given wavelength. The ratio of the angular momentum, vibration, and random motion taking place within that absolute unit of time would determine the amount of expansion above the absolute lower diameter; we could plot this as the amplitude. Amplitude would also be a reflection of allowable temperature (varying degrees of freedom), and allowable internal instances of relative time also dependent upon the ratio of the remaining states of motion. Thus, an amplitude modulation while maintaining a given wavelength would have relativistic effects due to the conservation of motion taking place between the angular momentum, vibration, and random motion, but a frequency modulation would have to involve a conserved change to or from absolute linear velocity in ratio to the other forms of motion.

I haven't gotten all this straight in my head yet, but does this make any sense whatsoever?



regards,

Tim

[G_burnett]

Originally Posted by dleviwing

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The object described in #3 also would acquire angular velocity so I tend to believe the universe is an object with angular momentum and thus a real physical boundary that reflects EM radiation; why else would the background radiation even exist, let known be so uniform? (just a retorical question)

Does this make sense to you?

BTW: Intelligence is a measure of how well one thinks, not on how much knowledge one acquires. Your thinking measures-up very well Tim; you have the ability to create the knowledge for others to learn.

HI sorry for butting in with a brain ponder but the background radiation and uniformity of such ... is this not indication of linear frame drag, the back push of the radiant wave throughout the form slave to the wave thereby uniform? I see what you state in the boundary being reflective being the case for the uniform or why even exist the question but there is a pulse to it all, like a heart beat? Just a thought in my own head. Regards ~G

[analog]

Originally Posted by analog

ALV (ALD ÷ AUT) = wavelength (AD ÷ AUT) × frequency (OD ÷ AUT)......

.......What I'm trying to represent is an analogy where wavelength and frequency have a product of an absolute linear distance traveled per absolute unit of time, but their ratio represents relative time I guess.

I think what I'm trying to say is:

ALV= wavelength (relative linear velocity) x frequency (relative angular velocity)

amplitude (diameter of expansion) at any given wavelength (RLV)= frequency (RAV) x random motion

Thus any given wavelength (RLV) below the initial ALV would predict a frequency (RAV), which would predict an amplitude (DOE), this would be good if everything was in an absolute uniform motion/pure mass state, but when the actual amplitude showed an expansion greater than predicted, the sum of all of the angular velocities would show a missing amount which would therefore predict an amount of random motion contributing to the extra DOE.

Just some further thoughts.

later,

Tim

[G_burnett]

Thought ponder teasing brain activity.

The expansion of the universe to a state of where all mass can be expanded to nth degree of state minute with no interaction between mass possible ...
Stored energy in the mass = potential.

This means the quark component of the mass is in absolute motion near c.
What is the form of this mass, postulated it has a shell of a containment nature.
Are all the quark component the same graham asks?
The sage replies, “No they are not.”
In hearing thus, Graham poses the question, “Can the quark component be the same?
The sage replies, “No they can not.”
Graham asks, “Can the speed of the quark be the same?”
The sage replies “Only in the component singularity of form and there are many such form possible.”
Graham postulates the reply, “Then absolute motion is not achieved.”
The sage responds, “…define Absolute Motion.”
Graham answers, “There can be no shell or containment of condense nucleus, the electron must be a free radical in singularity state of condense, no wave pulse emit.” Graham continues with ponder. “And a unit of stored energy, an ion and both a positron and electron in state separate form the other and proton degraded form a neutron state of mass/matter but with potential energy state yet.”
To further postulate, “The proton uncontained and in nature of component quark will create more mass linear being out of condensed state with no containment.”
Sage replies, “Paradox achieved perception, there can not be absolute motion defined as a state to mass singularity as both are dependent on the other to exist, duality manifest.”
Graham asks, “What then is the state absolute?”
The sage replies, “When the distance between the particles such none are would interact as a function of the other having singular direction, no empathy.”
Graham replies with query statement form, “The absolute motion is then = Infinite expansion manifest.”
The sage replies, “Define was beginning to define infinite.”
Graham asks, “Is beginning convergence by alignment result?”
The sage replies, “Sometimes.”
hmmmm

[dleviwing]

Hi Tim;
Sorry but I was unable to follow what you are trying to say. I think the basic thing to keep in mind is that uniform linear motion produces mass, but “rest mass” is based on atomic structure rather than uniform motion; that tends to make things confusing.

I think you may have state the reason of time dilation of the clock just in the opposite manner; acceleration condenses all matter and thus slows the interaction due to the increased spatial density. Clocks at higher altitudes run faster do to a decrease of spatial density as a result of reduced gravity. It becomes even more complex if you try to interpret it using “energy exchange” theory.

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Graham;
Sage seems to be attempting to convey “Quantum Chromodynamics” to you in his own interpretation of Feynman’s wave packet exchange interpretation of the “strong nuclear force” as it applies to quark bonding. I do the same thing by explaining the bonding as symmetry waves that only produce constructive interference; this prevents any separation of the quarks within a proton. Like a black hole, a proton is condensed to a level that prevents applying enough force to the quarks in a short enough time to spit the proton. Personally I think it would be easier to convert an electron to a quark than to split the proton; unfortunately they tend to turn into electron neutrinos though.

BTW: Sage also appears to be a first or second year physics student. Do you know him?

[analog]

Originally Posted by dleviwing

I think you may have state the reason of time dilation of the clock just in the opposite manner; acceleration condenses all matter and thus slows the interaction due to the increased spatial density. Clocks at higher altitudes run faster do to a decrease of spatial density as a result of reduced gravity. It becomes even more complex if you try to interpret it using “energy exchange” theory.

I'm saying the same thing as you in the post below Dave; I'm just probing my thoughts with a different tool, that's all. I'm not refering to an increased wavelength as a decreased spatial density (expansion); I'm still associating acceleration to condensation (increased spatial density). I'm just relating wavelength to the linear acceleration. Zero frequency would be absolute velocity; an increased wavelength would be increasing towards absolute velocity; thus condensing.

The wavelength and frequency concept I'm toying with is a measure of the divergence from absolute velocity/absolute zero state of the entire aether. I'm still giving the aether linear velocity below absolute velocity through the void. I'm just slowing it a bit in my mind and watching it expand. Any degree of linear velocity below absolute would allow a given amount of other forms of uniform motion (e.g., angular, vibration, etc.); the amount of expansion would also be determined by the redistribution of the missing linear velocity. The amount of expansion for a given linear velocity in ratio to the amount of other uniform motions present within the entire aether would also give an indication of the amount of random motion present.

Originally Posted by analog

"The loss in recorded measurement (frequency) of the moving clock in Einstein's Relativity was conserved through its acceleration, being as the clock is actually doing the dilating. Both clocks experienced the same amount of absolute motion during the experiment, and if we relate linear velocity to wavelength; the moving clock experienced an increased wavelength; thus decreased frequency (recorded time), while the rest clock experienced a shorter wavelength; thus increased frequency. The moving clock would have also been closer to absolute zero temperature."

I'll explain better soon, but I haven't strayed from anything we've talked about. I'm just probing the model with some different tools......thought stimulation.