[G_burnett]

Originally Posted by dipayankar

Got it this time Graham. Can you please suggest me a good book on cosmic plasma.

hi dip ... moved away from here and have to rewrite now lol
http://www.datasync.com/~rsf1/ritz.htm

this link is the stuff i am into reading and no real books to reconmend but it does show the sort you can find ,,, Ritz was an odd sort and interesting to read on but note the aether platform he is on.

Using the term cosmic plasma personaly i do so in reference to solar event or generation event ,,, the internal event in the sun ... or reactor fusion there are many platforms using different words of qualification to best discribe the quantiffication so first I would reconmend you decide what science platform you will stand on to study or research and use there terminology as paramiter to search ... books papers labs education sites and government, better then hard copy i find but each to own preference ...

[dipayankar]

Thank you Graham. Do you think aether is plasma (I might be repeating myself)?

Originally Posted by G_burnett

hi dip ... moved away from here and have to rewrite now lol
http://www.datasync.com/~rsf1/ritz.htm

this link is the stuff i am into reading and no real books to reconmend but it does show the sort you can find ,,, Ritz was an odd sort and interesting to read on but note the aether platform he is on.

Using the term cosmic plasma personaly i do so in reference to solar event or generation event ,,, the internal event in the sun ... or reactor fusion there are many platforms using different words of qualification to best discribe the quantiffication so first I would reconmend you decide what science platform you will stand on to study or research and use there terminology as paramiter to search ... books papers labs education sites and government, better then hard copy i find but each to own preference ...

[G_burnett]

Originally Posted by dipayankar

Thank you Graham. Do you think aether is plasma (I might be repeating myself)?

Hi Dip Ritz is heavy reading and even heavy in the stomach ... the aether can be plasma, form, of radiation wave intensity velocity heating length expanding condensing curved spinning cooling doing work clumping and the other side to clumping and representative of absolute wave motion propagating throughout ... did i say spinning? hmmm its full and it is empty but never it would seem without potential to create, move in, but not stay at rest in ... plasma is the quantification of aether at high temperatures where everything melds but gravity which i am not sure is the right word yet or just because we have not gotten that high of a temperature yet or just have not seen the meld in the right way ignoring the spin to it all in transient wave form. .. or isolated enough in time to get the perspective ..but then this is just a road being traveled by self .. trying to understand the interaction of energy wave in varied conjunctive resonance effect. This may lead me to better understand the effect of high temperature plasma interaction on the micro level to redefine gravity which may or may not be as we think it is, spin possibly underrated in its difficulty to perceptive notation ... i thought i had it but it just slipped away for a sec.

I think of plasma when i think of fusion. I think of fusion taking place in the aether making it the aether such as the aether makes for the plasma fusion event an release of wave from spin effect ... saying this the general consensus would have to lead into not just one BB but multi BB and we are the result of one ... although not a micro bb IMHO ... ~regards graham

[dipayankar]

Hi Graham, if aether is plasma, why havent we been able to detect it as yet? We can detect plasma. So how is this plasma different?

Originally Posted by G_burnett

Hi Dip Ritz is heavy reading and even heavy in the stomach ... the aether can be plasma, form, of radiation wave intensity velocity heating length expanding condensing curved spinning cooling doing work clumping and the other side to clumping and representative of absolute wave motion propagating throughout ... did i say spinning? hmmm its full and it is empty but never it would seem without potential to create, move in, but not stay at rest in ... plasma is the quantification of aether at high temperatures where everything melds but gravity which i am not sure is the right word yet or just because we have not gotten that high of a temperature yet or just have not seen the meld in the right way ignoring the spin to it all in transient wave form. .. or isolated enough in time to get the perspective ..but then this is just a road being traveled by self .. trying to understand the interaction of energy wave in varied conjunctive resonance effect. This may lead me to better understand the effect of high temperature plasma interaction on the micro level to redefine gravity which may or may not be as we think it is, spin possibly underrated in its difficulty to perceptive notation ... i thought i had it but it just slipped away for a sec.

I think of plasma when i think of fusion. I think of fusion taking place in the aether making it the aether such as the aether makes for the plasma fusion event an release of wave from spin effect ... saying this the general consensus would have to lead into not just one BB but multi BB and we are the result of one ... although not a micro bb IMHO ... ~regards graham

[analog]

Hello Dave,

Originally Posted by dleviwing

Something else you may wish to ponder would be to ask yourself how much time is required to convey absolute motion throughout a volume of the Aether to cause the formation of an autonomous object. That same time increment is critical in understanding the quantum behavior of fundamental matter. That is the maximum time allowed to produce physical change in any system; most such events occur in shorter time increments though; some even appear to be instantanious. This will also help with imagining the physical dimensions and behaviors.

I've been trying to define the interactions, or the mechanics, of the states of motion (e.g. linear, angular, vibration, chaotic interference) of the FS, and I have some questions concerning your above post. I see the bonding property being the velocity of change from an unstructured to a structured autonomous volume, as it would be the mechanism for the angular momentum.

Initially, when the spatial density is high enough, and the wave interference becomes constructive enough to form an autonomous volume, wouldn't the increased ability to bond due to the constructive interference be the catalyst to start the angular momentum as it dictated direction to the absolute motion of the forming volume causing it to display angular momentum rather than another form of uniform motion?

Physical change in a system of absolute motion is merely changes in direction, which is dictated by the bonding property, which is complimented by uniform motion. Is there any change in direction that isn't related to bonding at the quantum scale? How does the velocity at which the bonding property alters direction relate to the absolute velocity? Does this have anything to do with what you were refering to above?

In my attempts to visualize this, I keep wanting to give the aether a particle type quantum resolution at which the absolute motion/velocity is transfered, but an expanding/contracting membrane between all of the quantum resolutions at which the bonding is transfered, whereby dictating direction such as seen through the manifestation of angular momentum. The entire formation would be intended to resemble a fluid aether which expands and contracts relative to the state of absolute motion within it; like we've been discussing.

Originally Posted by dleviwing

We also need to consider the axes of these spinning shells; they too are weaker and are easily opened causing the shell to collapse into a toroidal band like object; we call these objects “magnetic fields”. These objects quickly return to the shell structure if not sustained by some other motion of an object like an electrical current or synchronized electron orbitals. Well there goes another one of the forces.

Wouldn't the synchronized electron orbitals which sustained the torodial bands from returning quickly to the shell structure be a representation of the atomic motions which produce a magnetic object (i.e. magnet)?

Originally Posted by dleviwing

Why have we never detected the decay of a proton? Well, they don’t decay; they simple collect enough matter to form neutrons. Neutrons keep collapsing the Aether wave functions until they become unstable and revert back to an electron, proton, and gets rid of the excess substance as a neutrino. This whole process of collapsing the randomized wave functions of the Aether results in a basic flow of fundamental substance from the space environment of the universe into the particle structures of the universe; we call it gravity.

If you can keep track of all the conversions of one type of motion of matter to another, the whole system becomes quite simple. The details of these conversions are in the numbers and equations that describe mass and energy. Understand “Absolute Motion” and “Self-affinity” and the GUT picture is complete.

As this conversion takes place within a planet causing gravity, are heavier elements still being formed (i.e. periodic table), or are lighter ones being replicated?

I guess what I'm asking is: What happens to a carbon atom, for instance, as it continues to convert the random motions of the spatial environment thus causing gravity? Is it becoming a heavier element (i.e. nitrogen)?

Originally Posted by dleviwing

Now what do we do about “LIFE”?

On a very light note, I've come to the very unscientific conclusion that we are at the exact center of the absolute motion framework. (Don't tell our spiritual friends on the other side of ToE Town I said this. They'll get the wrong idea, and think they've converted me.). We're the slowest uniformly moving formation/structure within its medium within our universe. Galaxies, stars, and planets whiz through there mediums with proportional relative velocities, while I barely crawl from bed each morning within my spatial medium (i.e. atmosphere) provided by this rock we're riding on. We're perceivably the closest uniformly moving formation to absolute rest within its medium, but all that missing velocity is conserved through the cellular replication that gives us life; thus no absolute rest for us either.

We've defined the what (aether), how (absolute motion), and why (self-affinity) with our GUT. Now we just need to follow that through all of the cause and effect of the when and where as structures form and motions become relative by means of conserved momentum, and we'll find the mechanism for life.

We'll find it at the seemingly stagnant center of an absolutely moving universe, emerging from the cluttered gathering we've come to know as a planet, as the universe struggles to regain its initial state of uniformity from its imposed state of randomness.

We aren't the reason for our world (i.e. spiritual center); we're at the center of all states and structures (i.e. material center).

Sorry, that's the best I got for now. Can we claim a ToE now? ..... NO? ..... Damn!

[G_burnett]

Originally Posted by dipayankar

Hi Graham, if aether is plasma, why haven't we been able to detect it as yet? We can detect plasma. So how is this plasma different?

I believe this is the road to zero or one arguments dip .. there is either a state of zero or it is instantaneous and no detection, or there is zero as a state ... Aether to me is a wave form continuum going and coming from everywhere across each others path at varied speed and composition of both mater and energy dependent on the mass and speed to define the energy or energy potential of form from that place and time of a snapshot ... oops there goes .. oops there goes ... stupid song like ring around the collar, ring around the collar ... and then there is the way it condenses in spin being an elastic event at times ..of string or a ball on the end of the string somewhere super string in mass ponders... plasma is an event that allows for the determination of aether as plasma energy is an event that is self powering or self heating once started to event of fusion if magnetic vortical containment is made etc or in aether condensed a thought ... to my understanding detection of a state of void not void in the instantaneous change from hydrogen to helium would be impossible as infinite be the nature or functional description of instantaneous.
some math demands the zero some allows the bother without dependent on platform of ponder.

We only detect plasma in the 'state of event' + one or -one (potential)plasma, of the event by what the event creates in the fusion .. a neutron release to capture as source of heat and helium created from the hydrogen loss of neutron ... and this in the past already if over the event horizon ... if it took a while longer we would percieve a sunset? It is relativity.

The state of aether without fusion/interaction/wave detectable is not detectable as there is ... at the very smallest so far still ... the wave, in spin and hot, very very hot ... interacting ... smashing, dancing, bumping etc ..
very busy place out there.

That does not explain it to you or does it?

notice how i have stayed away from dark matter? anti matter hydrogens created? dark space ... dark energy absorb .. if one has something that gives off no emit how can it be detected ???

right, only by the surround events .. hope this helps in making a fool of myself here ponders i am sure are very low key... as is cold fusion. an no one want to go there these days believe me. peace Graham

[dipayankar]

Does that mean that this plasma is in effect different from the general plasma that we know of??

Originally Posted by G_burnett

I believe this is the road to zero or one arguments dip .. there is either a state of zero or it is instantaneous and no detection, or there is zero as a state ... Aether to me is a wave form continuum going and coming from everywhere across each others path at varied speed and composition of both mater and energy dependent on the mass and speed to define the energy or energy potential of form from that place and time of a snapshot ... oops there goes .. oops there goes ... stupid song like ring around the collar, ring around the collar ... and then there is the way it condenses in spin being an elastic event at times ..of string or a ball on the end of the string somewhere super string in mass ponders... plasma is an event that allows for the determination of aether as plasma energy is an event that is self powering or self heating once started to event of fusion if magnetic vortical containment is made etc or in aether condensed a thought ... to my understanding detection of a state of void not void in the instantaneous change from hydrogen to helium would be impossible as infinite be the nature or functional description of instantaneous.
some math demands the zero some allows the bother without dependent on platform of ponder.

We only detect plasma in the 'state of event' + one or -one (potential)plasma, of the event by what the event creates in the fusion .. a neutron release to capture as source of heat and helium created from the hydrogen loss of neutron ... and this in the past already if over the event horizon ... if it took a while longer we would percieve a sunset? It is relativity.

The state of aether without fusion/interaction/wave detectable is not detectable as there is ... at the very smallest so far still ... the wave, in spin and hot, very very hot ... interacting ... smashing, dancing, bumping etc ..
very busy place out there.

That does not explain it to you or does it?

notice how i have stayed away from dark matter? anti matter hydrogens created? dark space ... dark energy absorb .. if one has something that gives off no emit how can it be detected ???

right, only by the surround events .. hope this helps in making a fool of myself here ponders i am sure are very low key... as is cold fusion. an no one want to go there these days believe me. peace Graham

[G_burnett]

Originally Posted by dipayankar

Does that mean that this plasma is in effect different from the general plasma that we know of??

It is hard to relate without a revisit for clarity. The potential for plasma tic detection in a defined realm or potential for plasma effect or potential for plasma fusion gives rise to the use of the word plasma ... but the realm we use it in has varied identity demand... not the event of plasma creation or +1 state of the realm ... plasma is not the matter being thrown into the fire but the fire itself once lit function of event ... lighting the fire is the event, when it ignites, staying at the temperature then needed to support the fire is dependent on the realm containment and the wood addition is the feeding of the fire with condensed (frozen) hydrogen the fuel... we are using the term plasma because of the high heat involved and being so high to actual type of particle change .. in the fire it is the excitement of electrons an release of electron/radiant wave ... an accelerated aging process of decay ... but with plasma event it is change and not so a decay of the particle form as we are using base atomic particle being cleaner to event +1 .. sort of ...

So no, in the sort of event there is the quantification of event different by particle variation but the event is basic the same ... the reaction to the containment realm of release of neutron in the hydrogen plasma event, the motion of the neutron from that event of release gives direction to the neutron as mass to enter the shell of containment or to say fuse with the matter the wall is made up with exciting the molecular structure of the wall in the process to where the neutron finds its station and in this fusion in the wall the excited state of the atom of the wall is detectable usable radiant heat emit.

The predictability of the neutron release is done by alignment of charge by magnetic field shape so when the event in a hydrogen plasma fusion reactor takes place the neutron without charge is release in a certain direction from the prior alignment ... further controlled by hydrogen atom mix the motion of vortical spin -1 of the event. maintained after the event as well ... they seem to have the direction of the neutron emit down pat by trial and error mostly, but they have made many inroads to the wall composition or receiving end of the released neutron particle mass ... I hope this makes sense of things a bit better as it is not complete ... the impurities of the hydrogen fuel clump and wall receiver greatly effect the ability to contain the effect as this creates a brittleness of the wall and once containment is lost so is the possibility of fusion effect. .. the neutrons just keep going as the wall is breached and the fire is not able to maintain itself in a needed realm of ignition state ... there is no oven effect with no walls ...

I hope this is better of a post or clarity ~ Graham

[analog]

Hello Dave, Graham, and Dip,

Originally Posted by dleviwing

Now what do we do about “LIFE”?

I thought I could add more to my thoughts from post #195 yesterday.

I've been fortunate to learn much from you Dave, and even more fortunate to find that I share similar logic and ideas with someone I've come to have much respect for. The one concept that we both hold true to that I feel is the most important is that we both believe our universe should show symmetry throughout; from the micro to the macro.

The same functions that govern the smallest volumes within our world should ultimately be responsible for the interactions of the largest. We've defined these fundamental functions (i.e. motion, and bonding) along with the fundamental substance (i.e. aether) which manifest them as they shape it to form our world.

Why should life and consciousness be any different? Should we allow them, and only them, to break the rules?

Originally Posted by dleviwing

Why have we never detected the decay of a proton? Well, they don’t decay; they simply collect enough matter to form neutrons. Neutrons keep collapsing the Aether wave functions until they become unstable and revert back to an electron, proton, and gets rid of the excess substance as a neutrino. This whole process of collapsing the randomized wave functions of the Aether results in a basic flow of fundamental substance from the space environment of the universe into the particle structures of the universe; we call it gravity.

Above you've given one of the most defined and concise examples of how our universe works in my honest opinion, and in doing so, you've showed that our world is a process/progression.

Even as a kid, before I knew much of anything about science, I would look at the periodic table and not just see elements, but a system and process; one which all those numbers and descriptions merely represented stages of something; I just didn't know what.

The GUT we discuss is the process which forms the most fundamental structures (atomic), but we almost neglect that these structures continue to form larger structures which, according to us, should be part of the same process and reflect the same functions.

Your excerpt from above is merely describing the structure formed when an increasingly dense volume continuously collects the FS from the less dense medium which surrounds it, as longer wavelength functions of the spatial medium are shortened through uniform motion and bonding. The density of this medium can only support a certain degree of structure (i.e. mass/uniform motion) until instability causes the volume to revert back to two more stable forms (relative to that medium) while expelling, thus conserving the difference as the neutrino.

Why would larger structures be any different?

Life doesn't manifest in the less dense medium of outer space (i.e. anywhere); it manifest within the seed or egg; which is merely its proportionally dense medium. We (i.e. life) are merely the next stage of structure and formation; emerging from the seemingly inanimate platform of this planet from which we further reach out and change our world.

The process of life is merely a continuation of the conversion process we witness at the atomic scale; it merely has more moving parts which makes it harder to keep up with. Evolution is merely the process of furthering structures. The absolute motions of the plant take in the less dense mediums of carbon dioxide, sunlight, etc, and essentially we are taking in other structures, such as them, along with lower frequency less dense mediums and substances, such as oxygen, water, etc.

The cellular replication which is so essential to life is perhaps relative to the conversion to two more stable states within our medium, and perhaps the expelled excess manifest consciousness, which is merely the conservation aspect of life; the neutrino (in a sense) of the structural realm which manifest us; the unique frequency of which, determined by our genes which governs the process, allows us to form our individual personalities as we direct ourselves to further interactions within our realm.

It's all about formation and decay; living and dying; structures and the mediums which contain them; radioactivity and stability; the long road from randomness back to uniformity. Individual formations may revert back to more stable states (from the dust thou art, and to the dust thou shalt return) as death is an unavoidable part of life, but the process grows and lives on.

We're just a slow motion version (due to the conservation of momentum) of the atomic structures (i.e. process) that form us, as every action we take contributes to the further condensation of our universe as we change the medium which allows our existence.

Originally Posted by dleviwing

You don’t need to be able to crunch the numbers to comprehend the concept; crunching the numbers are only good for something like if you fall from a building and want to know if you have a chance of survival or maybe to design an “anti-gravity” aircraft, particle weapons, and maybe cancel the atomic cohesion of the elements without using heat.

Do we really have to crunch the numbers to acknowledge that life can manifest through the formation of structure which is the driving concept behind our world; driven by one fundamental substance and its two properties?

Perhaps crunching of these numbers would allow us to cure cancer or something, but the concept is all I'm searching for right now.

Originally Posted by dleviwing

If you can keep track of all the conversions of one type of motion of matter to another, the whole system becomes quite simple. The details of these conversions are in the numbers and equations that describe mass and energy. Understand “Absolute Motion” and “Self-affinity” and the GUT picture is complete.

Follow that GUT picture through the further formation of more massive structures and their identical interactions within their relative increasingly dense mediums, as the interactions of the micro realm compound to form our macro reality and the ToE picture is also complete, IMHO.

I hope this makes, at the least, a little sense.

later,

Tim

[dleviwing]

Hi Tim;
I would have to write a book to respond to your last two posts but you seem to have the basic logic well in hand; I’ll just offer a few more points to ponder that may assist your train of thought.

We start with the time increment I asked you about; it turns out that to produce a fundamental autonomous unit of FS (Quantum unit from Aether), a fundamental quantity of substance must acquire AM within a time increment equivalent or less than that of the reciprocal of “c”. (<=1/c) The next increment of change that allows these fundamental units to combine is the reciprocal of 2c. (<= 1/2c) Can you guess what the next increment is? Hint: look at the inverse square law.

The next step is to visualize atomic structure. Most people still visualize the atom as a central nucleus of protons and neutrons with electrons at various distances orbiting that center. That model only works for the 99.9% of elementary Hydrogen or protium. (Elementary Hydrogen is only an electron and proton; no neutron) Most hydrogen is in the molecular state; two atoms stuck together. Remember I said that protons don’t decay; they saturate and collapse to form neutrons. To make a long story short, there are two more types of hydrogen atoms, one with a single neutron and one with two neutrons; Deuterium and tritium. All models of atomic structure beyond protium fail the centralize nucleus with the electron orbital model. Look at the Quantum Physics model that shows the electron position as a cloud; this indicates that the electrons do not orbit the core but are confined to a spatial volume as if they are trapped within a field (fundamental unit of FS) that is being controlled by a proton/neutron set. (This is where we need a picture so as not to need the thousand words of explanation.) Just stick a bunch of deuterium atoms together with all the protons and neutrons close together but sill keeping their electrons associated with the original deuterium nucleus. The fields form an interface bond controlled by the proton/neutron sets and thus the distance is determined by the harmonic vibrations of these sets.

This is where I’m having the most trouble placing a simple explanation to the concept without getting into the dynamics of complex math and wave functions. I think you’ve come far enough though to think it out in your pondering. Have fun!