Perhaps we are being overly ambitious. To explain the mind that is.
Something simpler, like the three domain system. The 3 domain system is the classification of all life into three domains, Archaea, Bacteria and Eukaryote. Bacteria use a communication system called Quorum Sensing and so do social insects such as Ants ... lol
Quorum sensing basically consists of
1. Reproductive division of labor (with or without sterile castes)
2. Overlapping generations
3. Cooperative care of young
If we could explain Quorum Sensing we would have a much better chance of explaining more complex thinking. Quorum Sensing appears deterministic.
I'm happy to go either way ....
cool bananas ... greg
I see where you're headed in this post, and I agree with your approach. Let me give this some thought.
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The external world is immortally 3D but it needs the other immortal 1D or 2D of consciousness to understand it. 3D objects need the 1D or 2D energies to stay 3D.
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absolute rest
It might or might not exists. We just can't measure it.
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If we bring the context of this thread into our present discussion, I have been trying to find out if there is any way that physics can acheive absolute rest. But can our mind also be at absolute rest? I have never experienced that though many people claim that yoga and meditation helps achieve that, but in my mind that is 'absolute hamburg'
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Perhaps we are being overly ambitious. To explain the mind that is.
Something simpler, like the three domain system. The 3 domain system is the classification of all life into three domains, Archaea, Bacteria and Eukaryote. Bacteria use a communication system called Quorum Sensing and so do social insects such as Ants ... lol
Quorum sensing basically consists of
1. Reproductive division of labor (with or without sterile castes)
2. Overlapping generations
3. Cooperative care of young
If we could explain Quorum Sensing we would have a much better chance of explaining more complex thinking. Quorum Sensing appears deterministic.
The external world is immortally 3D but it needs the other immortal 1D or 2D of consciousness to understand it. 3D objects need the 1D or 2D energies to stay 3D.
It might or might not exists. We just can't measure it.
Perhaps free will is an impression of the fact that we can draw from our learning, but in the end the choice is a result of our learnings. Then we learn new things and may make different choices about the same input than before. Also remember that the brain's analysis is subconscious; so, when a thought comes to mind we might think that we thought of it 'freely' right then and there.
As some thoughts come to us as forbidden or strange from one of our more simpleton mini-minds, we might reject it, thinking we have "free won't" but I think this becomes of feeding the strange thought back into the ethical or higher areas of the brain. Of course, some don't even give this a chance and go straight off reacting and doing, falling for the first thoughts that arise, killing off any subsequent refinement or more creativity in meeting life.
In the end, it is still our learning, good or bad, that goes into decision making seen as will, but one cannot really will that which does the willing, nor would randomness make any sense, literally.
If some do not have the inclination or ability to learn, then I guess they would be stuck, big time, as a more limited robot.
no. reason being to postulated "no" there is alignment factor of condensed matter. Matter that will have MF polarization in a transient form of potential to attract and repel ... motion potential that WILL manifest ... just a matter of time when and time is relative. (subject to change, maybe) IMHO ~ graham
But what would happen at absolute zero? Wont the vibratory motions of subatomic particles stop?
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no. reason being to postulated "no" there is alignment factor of condensed matter. Matter that will have MF polarization in a transient form of potential to attract and repel ... motion potential that WILL manifest ... just a matter of time when and time is relative. (subject to change, maybe) IMHO ~ graham
But what would happen at absolute zero? Wont the vibratory motions of subatomic particles stop?
Wouldn't that imply zero energy ..... outside the laws of conservation ?
greg
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But what would happen at absolute zero? Wont the vibratory motions of subatomic particles stop?
I like Greg's response to your question Dip.
As soon as you mentioned vibrations of pulse i thought electromagnetic term which is not the case in point i was trying to make to polarization in condense effect, ... the absolute zero degree condense ... of all ... I do not see it ... coming to rest with potential with out the zero effect yes .. but just as a tool using zero never a point zero forever ... and the term instantaneous applied to our measurements of forever, it is a very confusing subject with out the first discussion of platform other then what greg has put in the simple. graham (with out his coffee again)
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Yes. In fact anything can exist theoretically but in math it has to be well defined. Incidentally, infinity is not defined in math therefore in math infinity does not exist. On the other hand zero is well defined in math therefore 0 exist in math but in physics zero of absolute temperature cannot be reached therefore zero kelvin does not exist in the physical world.
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