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    Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity

    Quote Originally Posted by Jag, Vincent Wee Foo
    "The entire reputable scientific communities in the whole wide world had advanced to modern physics in our century, which is a much more accurate model than classical physics to describe the universe. But you are still on the Stone Age of modern science with a classical physics platform for explaining nature and the universe?"
    The Universe has to instantiate structures all by itself.

    In order to generate the seemingly wide array of structures which it does - there needs to be a simple method underneath.

    A classic physics platform in which a cycle of

    monotheistic generates duals combine to give duality recapitulates/resonates with
    'monotheistic' generates duals (on higher evolutionary level) combine to give duality recapitulates/resonates with
    'monotheistic' generates duals (on even higher evolutionary level) combine to give duality recapitulates/resonates with
    'monotheistic' ... ... ... and so it continues ... ... ...

    There HAS to be a simple mechanism which permits the Universe to be so creative (as evidenced by the structures it supports)
    - what modern physics does - is to make the simple process seem much more complex by characterizing it with more and more esoteric labels

    - the evolutionary process needs simplicity for otherwise - the autonomous process of evolutionary self-assembly unidirectionally to complexity would fail.

    From what I'm seeing - the basic method of the evolutionary method (ToE) has been known for thousands of years
    - all of the confusion has simply arisen through people over-complicating
    - for that is sadly with 'professionals' do.

    Expand their academic discipline for purposes of self interest.

    The explosion in information in the sciences of the last 100 years has not taken us closer to enlightenment
    - has taken us further a collective understanding of the world around.

    All there is to reality - is the evolutionary process which is encoded as an innate property in fundamental substance.

    It (fundamental substance) evolves because evolve is what it does.

    For it to evolve - it must be working to an autonomous pattern - where the schoolboy favourite for evolution to work to - will be loss of resonance/resonance achieved/loss of resonance ... etc ... with a standing wave
    - where resonance with the standing wave can be viewed as vortical structure formation.

    All that I'd add to Vincent's first post - is that ToE rests in the process by which evolutionary vortices form
    - rather than considering them when they've formed.

    The process of vortex formation as the ToE - which is pretty much what I gather Vincent is describing.

    The vortex forming when a standing wave (Adam and Eve duality) results.

    The key bit of the standing wave formation - is the ejection from the Garden (ie loss of resonance) when Adam and Eve first succumb to attraction - that is - upon attraction, they lose their resonance with God
    - and thereafter have to work to form a duality (vortex) prior to being allowed re-admission into the Garden of Eden (as vortices/standing waves which are thereafter (following duality formation) placed back in resonance with God).

    Enforced loss of resonance when evolutionary potential is encountered.
    Return to resonance when pair-bond completion is ensured.

    Pair-bond formation (at the level underlying phenomenological reality) is the mechanism which evolution (of fundamental substance) works to.

    It's not very hard to realise what this means to man - that pair-bond formation (so called soul-mate formation) is what we're expected to be striving towards - to allow us to return back to the Garden; it's important to realise that having our head screwed on properly is important to pair-bond formation
    - where having one's head screwed on properly relates to a personal and unceasing personal quest to understand (rationally) the meaning of morality.


    So - luckily - we can simply extend Vincent's ToE with the imagery from the Adam and Eve myth - explaining away the actual proces of formation of the standing waves/vortices which exist in our shared phenomenological reality
    ... ... and we're there.

    Note - the idea of extending empirical science (matter is all there is) for a logical model (as new science) -
    appears to represent Kant's extension of phenomenological reality into noumenal reality.

    Phenomenological reality is but a subset of TOTAL reality
    - noumenal reality appears to be able to encapsulate aspects of real reality which Phenomenological reality cannot fathom (expose).

    Now ... ... ... is there anything outside of TOTAL reality which cannot be imagined within noumenal reality.

    At least from the perspective of all that we see in Phenomenological reality (the existence of a centre to a bar magnet which is neither + nor -, the existence of the mind)
    - no.

    The noumenal construct (mind) can deliver the simplest explanatory model of all observational data
    - empirical science cannot.

    Bringing us once again around to the Hawking/Mlodinow statement that a physicist won't uncover ToE
    - the physicist is an empiricist - experiments in the material world
    - will be in danger of over-stepping the mark - if s/he dares to throw out untestable conjectures.

    The same constraint is not placed on all of us though - and an unaligned mind (to any academic discipline) is free to make the statement that everything we know is grounded in no-thing, from the materialist perspective.

    Physics can't accept No-thing (a thing which doesn't exist within our frame of reference).

    As the fundamentalist scientist responds to the existence of No-thing -
    how ever are we accept the existence of a construct which can not be prodded empirically.

    To which the response is, well things can be no other way.
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    Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity

    Quote Originally Posted by SB_UK View Post
    The Universe has to instantiate structures all by itself.

    In order to generate the seemingly wide array of structures which it does - there needs to be a simple method underneath.
    Richard Dawkins describes the process as the workings of a 'Blind watchmaker'.
    The watch contains cogs of different sizes.

    The cog is being used as a metaphor for torus for vortex for standing wave.

    If there's no watchmaker to assemble the cogs - then the cogs must do it by themselves.

    When a cog is put under more pressure than it can handle - it evolves to become 'stronger'.

    The mechanism is of a standing wave being pushed out of resonance - only to re-instate resonance at a higher frequency (a stronger resonance).

    All we require for the structures of phenomenological reality to form - is to see the structures of phenomenological reality as projected (evolutionary folds) of a fundamental substance which has only 1 trick - the capacity to evolve.

    It (fundamental substance, God, creator, consciousness, aether) has only 1 trick and so is mildly bemused that people (us) think of it as magic.

    The problem we have - as projections of it - is that it seems able to pop 'stuff' which didn't exist in our 'space' (phenomenological reality) previously
    - into our space.

    It (God) is a creative from *our* perspective - God The Creator is creative.

    Everything we know is generated from the capacity for evolutionary creativity of fundamental substance/God.

    However ... ... ... and we are required to run the following thought over and over and over again in our minds
    - the emergence of something new (a higher evolutionary fold of God/fundamental substance) IS TO BE EXPECTED.

    This is God's (fundamental substances) only trick.

    Now - why is this the ToE (ie the Adam and Eve metaphor for mechanism of the emergent evolutionary process) ?
    Because the ToE needs to take in the mechanism by which 'stuff' which has not yet happened 'happens'.

    There's a tendency to concentrate on physics, primarily on this site
    - physics is simply a fundamental cog - and is not the process by which the cogs arise.

    The ToE is the process by which the cogs arise.

    The cogs all arise by the same mechanism - nature hasn't the (lack of) intelligence to over-complicate (human beings and their ridiculous bureaucracies - the very vast majority of human innovation is pointless bureaucracy (stamp-collecting) - where even Rutherford's 'physics' is stamp-collecting and does not represent true science (see below for New-mon-al science)) ... ...

    - with the irony being
    - and of course put in place by those who understand this whole SIMPLE story -

    that the conflict between science's evolutionary paradigm and the Abrahamic creation myth
    - is that the Abrahamic creation myth is a generic mechanism to science's evolutionary paradigm.

    However - we need to call science's evolutionary paradigm - New science's evolutionary paradigm (where New science extends empirical science by permitting unprovable ideas in the empirical domain, which, nevertheless, must be correct.

    Empirical scientists are particularly dull minded, preferring to ask only questions which can be answered using tools of the material world
    - where the emergence of mind is a fundamental statement of a shift away from the primacy of the material world into a new (larger) model of reality.

    Seeing isn't believing - Knowing through the eyes of a holistic, globally complete and internally logically consistent mind is believing.


    A large part of the ToE, then, as heralding a new form of science which (as it happens) requires the capacity for greater abstract thinking than the standard empiricist
    - and which references back to Stephen Hawking's idea -
    that the scientist knows how to calibrate all of their tools, apart from the only one which matters - their mind.
    The animal and child and sadly many adults (pre-mind) live within the materialist paradigm.

    The ToE (an understanding of the simplicity (see Adam and Eve metaphor) of the evolutionary mechanism of creation) requires a mind which can understand the simplicity of the evolutionary mechanism of creation
    - this mind (the mind of ToE represents a mind which has undergone the transition to wisdom)

    - the transition to wisdom results in the bearer of this trait displaying innate morality.

    The human mind is thereby seen as the tool of social cohesion - that when formed, human beings (like the many animals classified as 'enforcedly' social)
    - become a social animal.

    We haven't been social thus far.
    The existence of war, money, profiteering, schadenfreude, the desire to have more than one's neighbour etc are not the behaviours of individual organisms in a social species.
    The reason why individual organisms have not behaved appropriately socially - is that individual organisms have not had a mind.
    The mind is not present until wisdom is attained.
    Wisdom need not be attained.
    Once wisdom is attained (see above) - a mind is formed which can see the ToE.

    So which comes first wisdom or the ToE ?
    [1] Wisdom and capacity to see (know) the ToE arise simultaneously.
    [2] Similarly - morality arises concomitantly as a fixed attribute.
    [3] The individual becomes enforcedly social (Stephen Hawking - 'enforced moral consistency')
    [4] With a mind which is holistic, of global scope and internally logically constent - the individual can see what human beings need to do - to create a global village of egality, fraternity, liberty -> food + shelter sustainably generated co-operatively by all global citizens themselves.
    [5] Most importantly though - with this transition - the individual witnesses a shift in reward mechanisms - from the primitive reward system (the allure of the seven deadly sins) for a higher reward system (resonance with God - 'to have died and gone to Heaven' whilst still alive).
    Whilst the primitive reward system is in place (and people act like the selfish gene (Dawkins) ie competitively) - there can be no proper society
    - we require sufficient people to undergo the transition to wisdom, for society to form.
    [6] How would this be possible ?
    2 mechanisms - either a global brainstorming exercise in which all Internet bearers settle on the simplest explanatory model of reality (ie Vincent Wee Foo's vortices generated by the creation metaphor), after excluding all other possibilities ... ...
    or - for at least 2 people to consider all possibilities and to 'sculpt' the global mind (from which local or individual minds are required to inherit logical consistency) so that it is closed to false possibilities.

    The existence of a personal God is rejected out of hand - and is supplanted by a model for God which actually makes sense
    - all religions are seen as perspectives on an innately autonomously evolving God or fundamental substance or standing wave or cog which creates

    ... ... meaning - that religions are unified - the unification of religion representing the crystallization of a model for all of reality - including that which exists outside of Universe -
    where that which exists outside of our Universe, and adding to the centre of the magnet or the existence of the mind
    - is clearly 'real' - though is outside of the scope of the empirical method.

    What am I trying to get at ?
    The unification of physics is relatively simple - but isn't the ToE.
    Physics is an aspect of phenomenological reality.
    The Theory of Everything must consider Everything - what is at the centre of the magnet, mind, what lies outside of the Universe, what lies in store for us in he future
    - Unification of religion performs all of that - as well as providing unification of the 4 forces of physics (see 1 unidirectional and 3 polar forces)

    ... ... ... meaning that we're there ?

    I can't really see ToE being taken any further.

    Either we've done enough - or all we need to do is to put the one line simple metaphorical explanation of New science's evolutionary mechanism (the Adam and Eve myth) into the public eye (shouldn't be hard - considering the extreme efforts which America -etc- has gone to - to amplify the conflict between these two actually critically synergistic schools of thought)

    - where the loser will be seen to be 'Old (empirical) Science' ... ... ... a materialist paradigm - where the materialist paradigm is completely refute by a model for existence which resides on foundation immaterial
    - definition - lying outside of frame of coherence within phenomenological reality.

    That's all.
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    Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity

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    Because the ToE needs to take in the mechanism by which 'stuff' which has not yet happened 'happens'.
    One final comment.

    As we (instantiations of a fundamental substance which can evolve) evolve - at least and only in the case of the next (subsequent) evolutionary emergent event
    - and as it draws closer - we'll be able to make out our 'new' reality using imagination.

    Imagine the possibilities - when the possibilities drains down to possibility (the formation of a fair global society) - imagination becomes reality
    - and the process is required to begin again.

    First thoughts - the formation of a fair global society will result in a world in which people work towards the 'honing' of informational quality
    - diversity of inforation content in all of our sensory streams as the new evolutionary paradigm.

    Think renaissance art - though in each and every (eyes, ears, touch, smell, balance, fine motor) sensory stream - and in which all people strive (because they'll enjoy it) to play a part.

    The cerebellum (to quality) as the new cortex (social organism formation).

    Hopefully electronically enhanced - google, the cloud and 4g offer the promise of an Eco-net.

    The 'mind' (with ToE) is (as such) dead
    - I'm pretty sure that as soon as society falls into line with the only logical path of complete re-assembly
    Quote Originally Posted by Revelation 11:15
    The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever."
    (that's - incidentally how the evolutionary process works - collapse in structure,
    Quote Originally Posted by Revelation 8:1
    When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour.
    momentarily, in the evolving construct) into a fair global system
    - that we'll find ourselves, individually, working towards informational complexity (quality of entertainment) to train our brains into appreciation.

    Complexity of structure of pattern-matching apparatus in cerebellum (Stephen Hawking) as the next paradigm.

    Hmmm... ... if it's that easy to see through onto the next evolutionary stage using imagination - then the current stage (generation of a fair global society) must have finished ... ...

    however ! We don't have a fair global society currently -

    we need an Apocalypse (an engineered collapse in the global economic system) -

    - the Fein Jewish Menn of Goldmann Sachs have their fingers on the button.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity

    A fair society followed by a collective thrust towards informational quality.

    From cortex to cerebellum.

    What are we waiting for ?

    The global economic system must collapse.

    The collective schools of religion (fundamental substance) requires an Apocalypse (transient loss in structure)
    - to allow social structure to re-form (re-associate) in higher (enforcing equality of man) form.

    An evolutionary transition in the global structure of minds into a globally connected 'Inter-net' in which all of our minds are nodes.

    Money will not exist in this new world.

    What price (informational) quality ?

    Price labels can only be stuck on dreary dreary real world items - and as mentioned in the posts above - the transition which we're experiencing maybe considered as transcending the material paradigm.

    Physical world attachment (the desire for money, houses, land, power over people etc) is dead.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity

    Quote Originally Posted by today's newspaper
    Financial crisis five years on and still no end in sight

    www.telegraph.co.uk/Financial-crisis-five-years-on-and-still-no-end-in-sight

    Quote Originally Posted by yesterday
    Spain on the brink - August 8, 2012 - Spanish bond yields remain dangerously high after its banking system reveals huge losses and the country appears on the verge a bail-out. The crisis, it seems, is far from over...
    It won't ever be over.

    Money cannot work.

    We've transcended it.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Spain
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamira_cave
    Its special relevance comes from the fact that it was the first cave in which prehistoric cave paintings were discovered ... ... 30 km west of the city of Santander


    The association between bank (money) and art.

    A story of money (bank) producing a renaissance in art (informational quality) (and itself taking a bullet in the process) to mimic the last speciation event of man (of Homo sapiens sapiens) which used art as a precursor to a novel form (language) of communication.

    Art (informational quality which the individual may discern) and Money (a material world factor) occupy different realms in reality; we're transcending money (the material world) for art (informational quality); examine the average person these days - and it's books, films, computer games, games, music, communication which they choose to spend their time in
    - these aspects occupy the informational dimension and are not of the material world.

    A novel form of communication to Homo sapiens neosapiens ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Hawking
    Telepathy.
    To define sense from words which are (otherwise) bereft of.

    Male and Female archetype as Transmitter and Receiver (respectively).

    T/R device from pair-bonding.

    Despite having this idea open for 10 years now - I'm still not sure about it ... ... ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jag View Post
    For the good Dr. it must have been like, the president of the flat earth society being told by someone that the earth is, in fact, round; it is a paradox that initiates a paradigm shift. UVS is a paradox that will bring another paradigm shift...A giant step toward TOE.
    James, well said!

    More often, as soon as a paradox was resolved and thus solved a mystery, the whole issue was then dismissed as fake and then thrown out of the window. Little did most realize that the resolution of the issue lie in the paradox itself, which could bring knowledge to a transcendental level with its paradigm shift.

    I can quote part of you above statement in my web page on "The paradoxical effect of nature".

    TYVM.
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    "The entire universe is apparently paradoxical." - UVS inspired
    "All physical existences are weaved in vortical motion; nothing physical in nature is not vortical." - UVS inspired
    "Through knowing the paradoxical effect of nature, it enlightens on how nature does wonders in a complexly inverse manner." - UVS inspired

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    Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity

    Hello SB, welcome to this thread.

    I hope you would enjoy this vortical universe thread like many did.

    Quote Originally Posted by SB_UK View Post
    What am I trying to get at ?
    The unification of physics is relatively simple - but isn't the ToE.
    Physics is an aspect of phenomenological reality.
    The Theory of Everything must consider Everything - what is at the centre of the magnet, mind, what lies outside of the Universe, what lies in store for us in he future

    I can't really see ToE being taken any further.
    Perhaps your concept of diverging to cover all arenas by considering everything for the Theory of Everything is more encompassing, imho, it might lead to unfalsifiable realms of reality that could not draw any agreeable conclusion at all even after all things were explicitly spelled.

    This TOE is tasked for trying to converge empiricism of natural phenomena to a point where the real resides, and the truths for the realities of the nature would therefore reveal themselves. At the same time can have some fun seeing the universe with paradoxical visions on an alternate platform for what mainstreams had proposed, and be very entertained by their propositions.

    Quote Originally Posted by SB_UK View Post

    Seeing isn't believing - Knowing through the eyes of a holistic, globally complete and internally logically consistent mind is believing.
    Unfortunately, seeing is believing is how things happen in this material world. And countering this is a daunting and uphill task.

    IMHO, purely "Knowing through the eyes of a holistic" might see realities in the warped realms of truths.

    Nonetheless, "globally complete and internally logically consistent mind is believing" can also lead to the perpetual illusion of knowing with circular logic by self-referencing, and this is without being aware of it at all.

    This is coming from the perspective of "Paradoxical effect of nature".

    Best to you.
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    "Through knowing the paradoxical effect of nature, it enlightens on how nature does wonders in a complexly inverse manner." - UVS inspired

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoPpAScience View Post
    At any hypothetical 'zero point' within Infinity, there is an infinite amount of directions. We can minimize these infinite directions to; front, back, up, down, left and right. We can then take the three 1d's of direction and call it 3d.

    3d of Real + 1d of Reality = 4d of human perception!
    Frankly, I am getting a bit giddy with this.

    Perhaps you can help me to clear up by elaborating on your abstract for how 3d of Real + 1d of Reality becomes the 4d of human perception?
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    "Through knowing the paradoxical effect of nature, it enlightens on how nature does wonders in a complexly inverse manner." - UVS inspired

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    Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent Wee-Foo View Post
    Here is the scientific evidence for our galaxy, and the cluster around ours, is a "Quasi galactic spheroid".
    That is really beautiful Vincent.

    Could that be the nucleus of an atom?

    jag

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