[dipayankar]

You know Graham, sometimes as a layman I think that the law of conservation of energy and mass is not actually a universal law. If we stick to our guns in the conservation law then lot of things do not get answered. If we are prepared to be flexible, then we can relook at a lot of mysteries.

Originally Posted by G_burnett

I would think dip in the very basic of science postulated that we can only change energy not create or destroy energy that the generation of energy is not here the ponder. Source is in the all, the ever changing from plus one to negative one instantaneous whole composition of the universe in varied density, frequency ... degree of and in change to varied degree and form .... life! and of course vortex creation for in forum example ... but i am still reading on that ... ~Peace regards Graham

[G_burnett]

Originally Posted by dipayankar

You know Graham, sometimes as a layman I think that the law of conservation of energy and mass is not actually a universal law. If we stick to our guns in the conservation law then lot of things do not get answered. If we are prepared to be flexible, then we can relook at a lot of mysteries.

what does not get answered? what mysteries? How to mysteries? How is mysteries? How was mysteries? How do mysteries? .... E's Spookiness ? There has to be rule of law dip, the rule to justify the act in terms of right or wrong, the law laid down for the mysteries to not scare us any more, give us power over the spiritualist mind that would try to say all is by god and rule us by fear of the unknown...

"I am a firm believer in the self investigation of truth,"

sorry i shouted that Vincent, not as some would proclaim being just too stupid to not take advantage of learned rote , but to understand in my own ability not better or worse then another, to learn, a lot of are here the same way, let others get a look at what you have learned, it is the forum .... sometimes it is what it not be that counts ... so you go with the flow in turmoil, fluid, you are the ocean and then just when all is lost? you go deeper and deeper into the whirl pool ... and then you are out of it ... because it is the law that counts and the foolishness is behind you. ..

Kind regards dip in my own head , ~peace graham

[PoPpAScience]

Hi Vincent;

Vincent did you pee your pants with excitement when you saw this wonderful pic. I have already made it my desktop background pic. I just love to stare and contemplate its magnificence's.

I love the eye of the vortex. But I especial love the creation of the "brown dwarf" in the top arm. I imagine the creation of another "brown dwarf" in the lower arm where the arm tails off.

I really love to think about your thoughts on the arms being vortex in nature. I can see how this is the most logical idea of how the arms of this whirlpool operate. I can visualize how the interaction of the ending of one vortex, and the beginning of another vortex, could create a sphere of substance.

The main place my thoughts have been since you first caught my eye with UVS, is how the Vortex is a "fictitious force". I see the vortex as a non-substance that effects the core-substance. I see the medium (Potential), which the core-substance (Aware) exists in, "Acting" as a "Vortex force" that whirls the core-substance into evermore complex entities. I see all the "fictitious forces" as "Potential", and "Potential" being the infinite medium of which our finite Universe exists in.

If one wanted to be religious in thought, they could say that the "Vortex" is the hand of God.

Right now I feel that, The "Vortex" is "Potential" creating whirlpools of substance.

Originally Posted by Vincent Wee-Foo

Hi Allen;

Yes, this image is beautiful, magnificent and OMG!

This is an awesome image of a newly formed star HL Tau within Milky Way. It is still at infancy stage with a protoplanet HL Tau b in the process of forming as a planet!

This image should be a first in astronomy history for protoplanetary disc that has captured a star with a view from its polar region with such vivid details showing spiral arms and a protoplanet forming in the accretion disc. Prior to this image there were only artist’s impressions available for protoplanetary disc in showing the accretion disc with spiral arms.

Thanks Allen for posting this image, this is strong evidence to evolution of stars and planets with vortex model, this image has important implications in many aspects for Universal Vortical Singularity.

Based on singular vortex mechanism, this image is direct evidence that a star is formed in vortical consolidation from stellar materials. The protoplanet HL Tau b is also direct evidence that revolving planets are consolidation of planetesimals in satellite vortices spiraling around its star in a localized vortex system. This illustrates the origin for perpetual motion of revolving and rotating planets around its star, as well as the orign of gravity and interplanetary gravity are push-in intertial force as a result of compression. Also a solid evidence for the presence of fundamental substance that causes the compression of a huge viscous mass that encompasses the star and all its satellites on a flattened plane in a spheroid of viscous matter.

In a paradigm shift, this image of a newly formed star has shown similarity of singular vortex mechanism as with the structure of a galaxy, such as the whirlpool galaxy with spiral arms and it drives a distinct satellite galaxy. Based on UVS, the satellite galaxy is vortically formed by stars that have vortically consolidated by stellar materials on an outer vortex ring. These are the compelling evidence of a vortical universe in a paradigm formation.


Image of Whirlpool galaxy NGC 5194 with its satellite galaxy.

Thanks a lot Allen.

[PoPpAScience]

Hi Vincent;

You did not react to the link I provided about the "Vortex engine", invention by the Canadian Louis Michaud. I think this invention has great potential for the future.

http://vortexengine.ca/index.shtml

[G_burnett]

ESA posted this in regards to manetic reconect ... my rule one manifested

[G_burnett]

The wonders of the universe!
NG Hubble

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Originally Posted by G_burnett

ok here is the revised picture downloaded, i think i have it right for you all lol graham ahh can i have this one named after me?

Hi Graham;

Thanks for all the efforts to show me this image, now I can see the red dwarf and helix you are referring to.

This image does not have enough details on the concerned celestial objects, for example they might appear near to each other from this view, however, without the depth information they could actually be very far away from each other. It is difficult to tell from this optical image that these objects are in a local group, perhaps you have other information?

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com

[size="2"]Hi Vincent,

I am slowly making way way through Jimbo's FET book—it's really well though out, plus your vortex stuff, too. It seems like that was the only was for the fundamentals to go: round and round. SIZE]

Hi Austin, (saw this is how other members are addressing you.)

I am still waiting for Jimbo's FET book to arrive, looking forward to his wonderful insights on vortex.

For a self perpetuating universe that is so homogeneous throughout, vortex model seems to be logical and very comprehensible. From this perspective, there are much more for exploration, hope you find it interesting like I do.

Best to you.

[dipayankar]

Thats a lovely picture. Reminds me of strings...

Originally Posted by G_burnett

The wonders of the universe!
NG Hubble

[G_burnett]

Originally Posted by Vincent Wee-Foo

Hi Graham;

Thanks for all the efforts to show me this image, now I can see the red dwarf and helix you are referring to.

This image does not have enough details on the concerned celestial objects, for example they might appear near to each other from this view, however, without the depth information they could actually be very far away from each other. It is difficult to tell from this optical image that these objects are in a local group, perhaps you have other information?

Hi Vincent, thanks for the review my Friend and getting back to me on it.

I have been pondering how to acquire further on this by developing interest the plan but have been a bit busy reading back to basics on a few things devouring Ritz and other matters that have demanded my attention of late. Maybe the simulators can get a better pictorial view done in combination of varied imaging but my resources are very limited as be my phone book. I will for sure let you know any developments of either. There is a faint image of a helix below logic demanding the curve away that would make the red dwarf curve a forward event not necessarily in thought straight up an down so it is hard to measure or the jet below is straight? ... time will tell. ~ Regards Graham