[dipayankar]

Hi Vincent, Where had you been? I was getting worried since there were no posts from your side. I actually did a bit of research on cold plasma but found that cold plasma is a few hundred degrees centigrade. So why havent we been able to detect such a hot medium in our universe as yet? If it is aether it has to be everywhere...

Originally Posted by Vincent Wee-Foo

Hi Dipayan;

This is a very penetrating question. Without having a good grasp on the elementary substance it can not really lead to anywhere.

The model of Universal Vortical Singularity requires this all pervasive universal medium of elementary plasma, without a reasonable undertake for this, the UVS concept is just another entertaining story.

My take on the postulated all pervasive medium of ether/dark matter/dark energy/God Particle/WIMPS throughout the universe is elementary plasma. Check it out here: What exactly is dark matter and dark energy?

The image for star HL Tau shows that star system are vortically weaved from plasmatic stellar materials, this is evident that everything that has clumped up as physical matter in a star system has a plasma origin.

I have to state that the approach is not in the conventional partical physics direction, and not familiar to most. See this web page on overviews for the approach to a ToE on cosmic evolution (in physical universe) through Universal Vortical Singularity.

Thanks.

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Hi Dipayan, sorry to have let you worried, there were some issues that need my attention and also need some quiet moment to ponder alone.

Plasmas vary according to temperature and density, and have characteristics that scale over many orders of magnitude.

The cold plasma you are talking about is Plasmas utilized in "plasma technology" in our ambient, not astrophysical plasmas.

See also a Plasma (physics) site by Wikipedia to see the wide variation of plasma. Go to the bottom section and check out under Space Plasma for details.

All celestial objects are plasmatic in nature, this is hard cold fact. Rock solid Earth in primodial form is protoplanet condensed from plasma.

NASA astronomers now know as fact that intergalactic space and large voids are not vacuum. They simply deny to accept that the substance dectected is plasma, they cannot agree that the gravity lensing method used that have dectected the substance based on GR is flawed. If the technique if flawed, then their discovery is bogus, this amount to nothing was found either way, hence the status quo. A catch 22 situation.

Originally Posted by dipayankar

Hi Vincent, Where had you been? I was getting worried since there were no posts from your side. I actually did a bit of research on cold plasma but found that cold plasma is a few hundred degrees centigrade. So why havent we been able to detect such a hot medium in our universe as yet? If it is aether it has to be everywhere...

[PoPpAScience]

Hi Vincent;

Its so nice to hear from you. I tried to sent you a private message, but your message box is full and would not go through. I guess you have to clean it out.

I was trying to let you know that I am working around the clock right now into November and thus do not have much time to respond in detail to you posts. Have lots to post to you and think you will be pleased where I am with my thoughts these days.

Have you noticed and contemplated about the black sphere at the center of our favorite evolving star, when it is at full screen size? What do you think it is?

I'll be going over your web site again in my spare time over the next month. I look forward to our future posts my Vortex buddy.

Later my friend.

[G_burnett]

Originally Posted by Vincent Wee-Foo

Hi Dipayan, sorry to have let you worried, there were some issues that need my attention and also need some quiet moment to ponder alone.

Plasmas vary according to temperature and density, and have characteristics that scale over many orders of magnitude.

The cold plasma you are talking about is Plasmas utilized in "plasma technology" in our ambient, not astrophysical plasmas.

See also a Plasma (physics) site by Wikipedia to see the wide variation of plasma. Go to the bottom section and check out under Space Plasma for details.

All celestial objects are plasmatic in nature, this is hard cold fact. Rock solid Earth in primodial form is protoplanet condensed from plasma.

NASA astronomers now know as fact that intergalactic space and large voids are not vacuum. They simply deny to accept that the substance dectected is plasma, they cannot agree that the gravity lensing method used that have dectected the substance based on GR is flawed. If the technique if flawed, then their discovery is bogus, this amount to nothing was found either way, hence the status quo. A catch 22 situation.

hi Vincent, hi dip

cold plasma fusion is a concept that by chemical dis-bonding of atomic molecular state there should be a release of neutron for use of as a heat source. This would have to take place by changing one type of atom into another, not so much as to change a molecule of atoms.

is it possible? yes, i would submit that it would be but not practical. The events of the US research into this matter of cold fusion began with a fellow who said he did it and then was taken in under the control of the US Government. He then said to all the future failures of them trying to duplicate what he said would work that they just did not do what he had said they should do. It is quite the story that for many many decades he was paid abhorrent sums of money to do this cold fusion and never did.

One has to wonder that the fellow either was the most ethical man known combined with the most silver of tongues and did not want to give it to the military as they ran rough over him or that indeed he did not do it or the US was a big cluster phuck in following what he wanted to do.

Which scenario you want to believe is a personal choice and till it is done I have no interest in the Chemical ENG end of pondering of this. That was my dads forte.

The missing dark matter is said to be found now in space. It was hard to find because it absorbed all and emit nothing.

What does this? the rational thought has to be that the matter is of such composition that it is everything and does not reflect what it does not have composition of to absorb. Every frequency is absorbed by this missing matter and nothing is reflected to be quantified or qualified by the view.
The only way it was found was by the curvature of light it caused when particle protons were in transient fluid form and bent around it.

One can by such postulation predict that this missing matter is in fact "aligned condensed matter" by the very fact of location together instead of random placement throughout the universe more then it is.

Is it the black hole of all black holes? No, not the view I would take. Reason being it is cold. Black holes are in motion, dark matter is not in the same league ..(note I do not say it is not in motion) absolute rest is always >0.

Alignment demands this >0 absolute rest feature of the term to be applied.

So in the alignment of the dark matter there is yet then no more then a clumping with out the fusion ... and get this, fusion needs the rise in temperature that will not happen until the dark matter clumps even more in alignment getting spin .... then ... watch out ... it loses its condense. BANG
ignition. Will it be a total wipe out of this universe? maybe ... how much mass/matter is there in the event to the mass/matter it will effect?? ... see the relationship demand? This is relativity.

Is this the only place where there is dark matter? no ... in different densities it is all through the aether and the universe changing from >0 absolute rest in varied form and in different plasma fusion event. ... this is "potential" ponder.

I am just in my own head here from some of the links i have been going to and others thought here. When does the fusion happen? it is predictable as a pulse non continual event, which I might add seem to be the problem with fusion reactors ... and they are leaning to run one now on pulse theorem in preference.

ponder all this in forum goes with out saying willingness to hear reply for unity and debate ... the vortical effect, random fusion taking place ... everywhere ... it is a big concept. ... but this is where I am at right now in dark matter ponder and plasma.

You may note a paradoxial view that i have postulated the heat needed in the plasma fusion event ... this is a relativity postulation to the direction of acoustical resonance usage of the inverse square law and personal vector rule tools involving spin and particle interaction ... work in progress sort of stuff when I am not sleeping on my keyboard. IMHO ~ kind regards, graham

[dipayankar]

Okay I hope all is fine.

Regarding plasma... as you had rightly mentioned that plasma is the least understood subject. But how to prove that the scientists are flawed? Unless we can prove that aether is plasma, it would be difficult to convince the people about Vortex theory.

Originally Posted by Vincent Wee-Foo

Hi Dipayan, sorry to have let you worried, there were some issues that need my attention and also need some quiet moment to ponder alone.

Plasmas vary according to temperature and density, and have characteristics that scale over many orders of magnitude.

The cold plasma you are talking about is Plasmas utilized in "plasma technology" in our ambient, not astrophysical plasmas.

See also a Plasma (physics) site by Wikipedia to see the wide variation of plasma. Go to the bottom section and check out under Space Plasma for details.

All celestial objects are plasmatic in nature, this is hard cold fact. Rock solid Earth in primodial form is protoplanet condensed from plasma.

NASA astronomers now know as fact that intergalactic space and large voids are not vacuum. They simply deny to accept that the substance dectected is plasma, they cannot agree that the gravity lensing method used that have dectected the substance based on GR is flawed. If the technique if flawed, then their discovery is bogus, this amount to nothing was found either way, hence the status quo. A catch 22 situation.

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Hi Allen,

In fact I did have a closer look at it.

This section is at the bottom excerpt from Evolution of stars and galaxies.

In the consolidation process the vortex columns of the primordial solar system vortexes pair were developed as the polar caps on Sun. The primordial solar system vortexes pair of Sun was driven by the galactic vortex of Milky Way in a sprial arm on accretion disc.

A vortex eye on a surface of Sun is a depressed void area, whereby the usual atmospheric presence of plasmatic viscous matter required for thermal convection is not there, this causes the phenomenon of an inert dark center of a sunspot that the emptiness inhibits convection and therefore is much cooler than the surrounding. See Sunspots.

The tiny black circle in the center show with this image of star HL Tau is the vortex eye on a surface of the star that is a depressed void area. The red circle around the black circle is where culmination of the vortical momentum occurs on a lower altitude with higher density viscous matter on the star, rotating at highest velocity most vigorously in a smallest diameter in the densest section of the polar vortex column, generating extreme conditions of highest temperature, strongest magnetic field storm and most vigorous reaction in nuclear fusion in an extremely consolidated plasmatic layer of viscous matter .

Vortex eye of star HL Tau


The phenomenon of polar caps as long-lived corona holes where coronal temperature and density suddenly drop, are caused by the extremely large polar vorticex pair of the Sun. The photosphere is disperse at the poles as a result of Sun's polar vortex; its centrifugal force would cause the atmosphere to spread towards the equator. As such, the photosphere on a Sun's hemisphere subjected to rotation is explicitly a forced vortex; where at equator the surface of photosphere is on a higher plane and at polar center the surface of photosphere is at a lowest point. The driving force for the Sun's polar vortex comes from the self-perpetuating force of Sun revolving around the Galactic center in a spiral arm of the galactic vortex, forming it into a very large, stable and long-lived free vortex on axis.

Based on unisonal vortex mechanism, the main axis of the unisonal polar vortexes pair of Sun is on the rotation axis of Sun, the secondary axis with driving force is on revolving axis of Sun.

Polar caps of Sun

What was your view? Did you discover more? On your convenient time please.

Enjoy.

Originally Posted by PoPpAScience

Hi Vincent;

Have you noticed and contemplated about the black sphere at the center of our favorite evolving star, when it is at full screen size? What do you think it is?

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Regarding "Unless we can prove that aether is plasma, it would be difficult to convince the people about Vortex theory."

Are you sure?

What make you think that "people" would be convinced if you can prove it?

Didn't Galileo have scientific proof to his revolutionary scientific discovery and yet he could not convince those people he had tried to convinced?



Are you not convinced that UVS is carrying the scientific proof for the postulations on Antarctica Ozone Hole

Are you also not convinced that UVS is also carrying the scientific proof for the postulation on the 22 years Solar Cycle are caused by planetary alignment of Juipter and Saturn?

Are the above two discoveries not revolutionary enough? Didn't these cases proved that conventional scientific theories on these two fields are flawed?

If you are convinced on the above two topics, tell me why "people" are still not convinced? If you are not convinced, tell me why are you not convinced.

Give me a statisfactory answer to this question and then I will consider to show you the proof that this all pervasive medium throughout the universe is plasma, to the same degree and extend in a similar manner I have proved the postulations of the above two discoveries through UVS in a single model with sound scientific evidence.

Best to you.

Originally Posted by dipayankar

Okay I hope all is fine.

Regarding plasma... as you had rightly mentioned that plasma is the least understood subject. But how to prove that the scientists are flawed? Unless we can prove that aether is plasma, it would be difficult to convince the people about Vortex theory.

[dipayankar]

Vincent, I am convinced that UVS would give satisfactory answers to most of the mysteries... but we would need substancial proof that aether is indeed plasma.. I am playing the devil's advocate for UVS..

Originally Posted by Vincent Wee-Foo

Regarding "Unless we can prove that aether is plasma, it would be difficult to convince the people about Vortex theory."

Are you sure?

What make you think that "people" would be convinced if you can prove it?

Didn't Galileo have scientific proof to his revolutionary scientific discovery and yet he could not convince those people he had tried to convinced?



Are you not convinced that UVS is carrying the scientific proof for the postulations on Antarctica Ozone Hole

Are you also not convinced that UVS is also carrying the scientific proof for the postulation on the 22 years Solar Cycle are caused by planetary alignment of Juipter and Saturn?

Are the above two discoveries not revolutionary enough? Didn't these cases proved that conventional scientific theories on these two fields are flawed?

If you are convinced on the above two topics, tell me why "people" are still not convinced? If you are not convinced, tell me why are you not convinced.

Give me a statisfactory answer to this question and then I will consider to show you the proof that this all pervasive medium throughout the universe is plasma, to the same degree and extend in a similar manner I have proved the postulations of the above two discoveries through UVS in a single model with sound scientific evidence.

Best to you.

[G_burnett]

Hi Vincent

.... getting through your site links to torque induced procession .. the cone depiction it will cause .. the Rings of Saturn relationship? ? ... IMHO just the first thing having been visiting the place for a while now. .. Kind regards Graham
after thought ...
actually my friend I have a sort of white board here next to my desk being a two foot roll of news print i unravel to hang on my wall and let sage scribble things on to yank up another six feet when full .. (free at my local papers office) .. any ways I have a (a) ray from the BB [0) point or possibly now (0) point as a time line representation along the x axis of expansion and the (y) vertical intersecting as now with a spin modification to the (y) plane giving me (s) curvature of the expanding going into Euclidean. (its allowed)

with torque induced effect in the expanding we would be on a (s) curve from the BB in the direction out of the cone along the (a) plane of time.

One step further with pulse and we are a slinky toy in a cone shape ... I will have to ponder what ... conjunction in the wave with frame drag linear? Unity again with E. Sort of is up there with intersecting galaxies ponder.

hmm right, not proved yet? ... a twist of the whole universe, I see your point... lol I think I see your point! ..its late here .. IMHO G.

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Dipayan,

I appreciate that you are making critical probing on UVS fundamental for cogency, from sharp angles and with valid points, this process is important and I thank you for your participation.

I am not referring to UVS would give satisfactory answers to most of the mysteries, I am referring to that two revolutionary discoveries mentioned in my last post that they are scientifically proved categorically; these are not in the same league.

Contrary to what you are suggesting, I do not see that these two "scientific discoveries" requires substantial proof that aether is indeed plasma; they are independent of it. Is that not so? Mainstream do not acknowledge the concept of aether entirely, that make it irrelevant whether aether is plasma or not, so even if you prove it or not it doesn't make a different.

Are these two revolutionary discoveries proved with the support of scientific evidence not substantial enough? Hence my previous questions to you are still outstanding.


Excerpt from IGM: This material is called the intergalactic medium (IGM) and is mostly ionized hydrogen, i.e. a plasma consisting of equal numbers of electrons and protons.
See also "The Universe is 99.999% plasma".

Vacuum has potential density and this was scientifically known long ago; false vacuum.

What new is now the nature of geometrical gravity as understood with UVS concept is a push-in effect caused by electromagnetic vortices in longitudinal standing waveforms, the magnetic flux with the peculiarities for these type of electromagnetic waves can be identified; spin directions that has gravitational polarity - right hand rule.

What outstanding is the issue on the definitions for plasma under conventional physics; this need version upgrade in order to adopt new findings. If the authority maintain the status quo of the world is flat, any revolution discovery on the Earth is a spheroid will be dismissed outright, regardless of there is a scientific prove or not; that round Earth case took 200 years for version upgrade.

Originally Posted by dipayankar

Vincent, I am convinced that UVS would give satisfactory answers to most of the mysteries... but we would need substantial proof that aether is indeed plasma.. I am playing the devil's advocate for UVS..