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Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity - 04-02-2008, 01:41 PM

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Ok so what starta the vortexa hmm directional transient particle form moving in opposite direction being attracted to the other ... tidal bores ... then there is an event horizon and the particle transient form having direction changes and being fluid begins the vortex event. Is this Doppler effect?
It precession Graham, the rotation axis itself is rotating in opposite direction of spin/flow, is the phenomenon for tidal bores.


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Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity - 04-02-2008, 02:00 PM

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and i will look at this regards the possible indication in such variance the poles could change soon? I doubt though there would be enough information calculable from what we have but for the algebra minded it may pose a good quest I for one would like to hear the result of.
Hi again Graham,
Earth magnetic poles has never really "reversed", it merely got interfered by strong external magnetic field and becomes chaos. The interferences are from aligned planets, mainly from Jupiter, Venus and Saturn. Track these planets will also find the dynamics origins that gradually shift the Earth's magnetic poles.

See a UVS topic on sunspot that explains the cause for this magnetic pole reversal.



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Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity - 04-04-2008, 01:10 AM

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Hi again Graham,
Earth magnetic poles has never really "reversed", it merely got interfered by strong external magnetic field and becomes chaos. The interferences are from aligned planets, mainly from Jupiter, Venus and Saturn. Track these planets will also find the dynamics origins that gradually shift the Earth's magnetic poles.

See a UVS topic on sunspot that explains the cause for this magnetic pole reversal.



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Hi Vincent, my friend, I worked on these thoughts first.
I sincerely hope they are not to crude or blunt as now it is my turn to say that I suppose and hopefully if they are your bare with me on my ignorance an lack of piety.

When we scribbles dots to depict the word Chaos I have a picture of just undiscovered data and paradox and take the time, most of the time, to join the dots and see what I get. But I am a simple man.

I have to confess I am a picture thinker. Words in script are the joined dots of scribble designed for those incapable of picture thought depiction and to lazy except to see the letters of the words organized in fancy font and elegant symmetry which take from the form they may try to describe.

A picture thinker can always master the way of the almighty pen. The other way is not done as the dots just get more confusing. I first and fore most try to decide what type thinker in front of me. Then I can communicate. I usually just ask if it is not obvious.

From this rare off beat consideration of others I find half in the world are indeed like me and the other half are word thinkers. Communicating with either form has its challenges based on the others self awareness and coping ability to my pictures. Thank you for coping so patiently and not calling me stupid.

The plate form of fluid form in transition moving parallel to another plate that cause the vortex having the third energy force vertical to the plates compared to just two lines we would see from the top view. Not that a vertical force is still needed as you may depict.

I gave the line drawing with out the consideration of the two forces acting said vertical for name sake on the plate’s position and to indicate that the two vertical forces are not necessary to form the vortex but a third directional force is needed. Of some sort yes but just the one you mention being the cause at times.

The singular point of the event can be noted any where down the plates as the plate itself is transient particle, or just a lot of dots moving in mass to opposite direction of the other beside it and as thick as you wish to perceive the plates in relativity issues.

In the first case pictured (Thumbnail 1)the varied particle form in transient direction could all be “static” regards a superstition that they would be moving in orbits of varied charge nature and mass and relative “all the time.” A transitional particle having more mass by the measurable amount of particle in the grouping or by nature being bigger then another and in this case it would be random impact with friction type forces vertical to the event that would be the base cause to a visual effect of the creation vortex effect being noted. And I hope in the true sense of a vortex description you note I said visual effect compared to a real vortex as without other forces other then frictional in type the vortex would be a preliminary transfer state I think more then a actual …. No. The vortex would still form as the friction alone as the third directional force (rather anti force) and as such would create the effect.

With the slowing of particle form the creation effect world slow down due to the exponent calculable multiple hits at distance from the event beginning.

The second case (Thumbnail 2)is when the two plates are effected by particle form having charge and in transient form positive or negative combined in each plate or combined in one plate per charge nature, positive moving one way and negative moving the other in complete form fluid and again with singular or multi mass noted still and as in the first case with anti force as this gives rise to the particle rule where there is the = then join by spontaneous event X and separation spontaneous again to varied > < direction and combined with the anti force vertically applied to the event creates the vortex. I did not say spiral just vortex, and add the spiral vortex such a whirlpool has the vertical pull to the event in disproportional amt so the lower of the amt below and is narrow in proportion to the upper forces … and again subject to the first case(s) regards the direction and distance from the event.

These are not all the cases in point but the event needs the third force how ever it turns up combining with the two plate streams. And this has to be the first rule.

Adding the spin of the particle transient form to the case in point not necessarily a factor of a charge unless static without an axis rotation still making it predominate to the case in point or not static where it may be relevant but not predominate and we have further case points then with or with out charge and subject to all the cases above.

I put that in here because the effect could be misleading to the cause and a factor(s) that has to be in the equation for further cases in point in anthropogenic pictorials showing many cases in point where here I am just forming the rule of thumb. I believe the path lesser of paradox should be followed. Looking in-wards rather then out-wards is paramount.

Vertical to the horizontal plates forces of pull by gravitational form mass predominate to the minor mass form vertical pull below. This is a form of energy to make the third, the vertical but as indicated not the only platform.

This is the optimum case for a spiral singular vortex. The singular vortex having the three minimum force factors in play and if a matter of direction they are applied accordingly on the event horizon.

There are other factors that could effect the event adding to it such as massive intrusion of void creating particle transient form energy directional in such the void is created as might come from a jet. And as the intrusion disperses the comparatively static form the implosion of the displaced more massive form (the plates) in the void having been compressed by the intrusion can come back in to play to form the vortex in equal force as they were dispersed by, … now that’s going way in there or (E=Mc2)- sorry there Mr E.

I am really worried now of two massive amounts of transient particle form being directed to a point of impact with each other. It is not what happens outside of the controlled environment of a star where other mass in the environment sometimes keeps the event in check.

This is not an event that can be in any way logical to continue with where the assumption is for the magnet fields controlling the direction will suffice to control the event.

If any thing the fields will add to the event as directional force to add to the event exponent calculation as a third available directional transient particle form force and a void will form on the smashing having three directed forces and for there will be the return of the particle form to the void in a vortex … a black hole. A simple bit of not logic it is.

The white coat voice for the project on the short I viewed, the obedient to authority figure made manifest, telling everyone they must continue, only indicated to me a personal agenda was at hand and the only agenda possible for them to consider is that they want a black hole formed thinking they can contain it with the EMF. That fellow seethed with self absorbed non empathetic to anyone but himself in a clear hidden personal agenda.

We know the event and we would all be in the whirlpool.

My dear friend I am no more then a singular thread of existence started a long way back and as such persona to another and this above makes sense, with the least amount of paradox we are all in deep shit with that experiment going ahead over there in France.

That is my thoughts tonight; a simple man who wishes to had had a bottle of fine Kentucky Turkey. I am sure I may need it with some of the replies expected and I am in the book for such sharing! PS good fortune ruled and i now have my spirits to continue another night!

The net is down my way on all of Vancouver Island due the uncertainty principle to all of mans endeavors and I will post this when it comes back up.
As i mentioned in another post DELL dumped a massive amount of particle form in western Canada with a timed event that when it reached a saturation point the event, all the forms in mass reaction, at the same time just overwhelmed the system.

So much is relative!

~Peace! so much is unified~ Graham

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Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity - 04-06-2008, 10:14 AM

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So much is relative!

~Peace! so much is unified~ Graham
For unity.

p.s. Am busy for a short while, thereafter will BRB to revert.


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Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity - 04-08-2008, 03:24 PM

Hi Vincent,

Where are you? Hope you are back here soon. Looking forward to discussing the properties of vortical singularity with you. It has become my new passion.


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Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity - 04-08-2008, 08:11 PM

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Hi again Graham,
Earth magnetic poles has never really "reversed", it merely got interfered by strong external magnetic field and becomes chaos. The interferences are from aligned planets, mainly from Jupiter, Venus and Saturn. Track these planets will also find the dynamics origins that gradually shift the Earth's magnetic poles.

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The shift of the magnetic poles I wanted to address a bit more as the event is in conflict to the chaos of magnetic fields you show and I wish to back this up in the statement that it was a very short term effect in the dropping of cosmic rays did not last very long and if it did by the chaotic version you show then we would not be here the reasoning I have to this.

the planetary alignment is a factor but the spontaneity of the event is by solar flare during the alignment as the only possible event so spontaneous and rare over the history of the earth.

as in my diagram pics in the gallery no 5 the two A+b- parallel lines being effected by the vertical and coming together are effected by the planetary alignment forces of a positive or negative factor that would shift the wave form of the A+ b- along the alignment plane. this in effect shifts the axis of the earth magnetic field but not enough or it would happen every alignment.
then on the same plane of the alignment the solar flare effects the same varied now by alignment wave form to a spontaneous full shift of the vertical axis and combined with the redirection of the A+b- streams after there own event with the vertical axis I would believe it to be a magnetic field reversal the end perceived of the spontaneous events.

Now as i did say the chaotic fields were there yes, but as the planetary alignment is taking place and not enough on there own to cause the reversal.

I do not believe any one looks at these things this way but I do and the more i apply the rule one even resonance wave can fall in to place ... which never fails to amaze me since the Portland bridge warped to the wind.

Hold a guitar up to the TV screen when it is just snow. Turn the neck so you can see between the fret bars and the strings. Holding down the G string on the fifth fret strum it and you will see a wave form on the next string as you tune it and even note the sharp or flat of the note as the wave is traveling the string all with the background of the electrons snow of the screen behind.

Its a perfect way to tune a guitar, by sight. Different strokes for different folks lol

guess i am a poet!

Lots to think of here and hope not to time consuming as i have a lot of free time being i am a no life no one out of work an i do not expect it of others with jobs being i am a bit lazy these days and fed up not finding good outlets for my pondering an interests other then using the net ... If do fail to get back as hurriedly as i seem to do i will have reached the lack of monies demanding i actually have to do something ... like (OK its a swear word i know) WORK, oh jeez i actually said it ...

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Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity - 04-10-2008, 02:35 AM

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Hi Vincent, my friend, I worked on these thoughts first.
I sincerely hope they are not to crude or blunt as now it is my turn to say that I suppose and hopefully if they are your bare with me on my ignorance an lack of piety.

From this rare off beat consideration of others I find half in the world are indeed like me and the other half are word thinkers. Communicating with either form has its challenges based on the others self awareness and coping ability to my pictures. Thank you for coping so patiently and not calling me stupid.~Peace! so much is unified~ Graham
Hi Graham, my compassionate friend, TY for your peaceful nature. It is the paradoxical effect of nature that are usually perceived in inverted manners and the speaking for the underlying reality is so inconvenient, unwittingly at times have caused embarrassment easily to all parties so often that the real scenarios has discreetly been left untold. I agree empathy should not be left out in the equation for the searches, please trust that in those utterances I have tried to be most humble to bring about a reality in a most honest straight forward manner that is obscured in paradoxes, and the arrogant is only apparent in that blunt manner, without any other intention at all. I believe there are values to it therefore are prepared to suffer the consequences for a chance of the realization can be brought across in a popped aware manner utilizing the paradox of potential, as described by Allen, than to keep it mute on the opinions of a realized probable cause, especially when I see, feel or realize anyone who might have that potential; even if it might take a long while for that realization. It is you, the onlooker who have the ability to realize the phenomenon relevant to you with some details highlighted, I am merely a crude guide doing an awkward job, probably not able to understand what you have understood through it in your area of expertist; anyone can do a better job on this than me, truly.

Like you have mentioned "different strokes for different folks", who knows your unconventional ways like the manner you are tunning your guitar could uncover great notes in a path least travelled? I never underestimate these sorts of approach for solutions; who say there is only one best way to Rome? By relating on a same thing in different manners that might be poles apart, at times it can just uncover inconceivable blind spots that pops a realization to eureka, this can happen even in violent conflicts at times.



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My dear friend I am no more then a singular thread of existence started a long way back and as such persona to another and this above makes sense, with the least amount of paradox we are all in deep shit with that experiment going ahead over there in France.
~Peace! so much is unified~ Graham

Are you referring to the experiment going on at CERN? What are your concerns?

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Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity - 04-10-2008, 02:43 AM

Hi Vincent;

Well I had another jump in my theory after I messaged you last week. I was no more then 15 minutes into my 4 day trip when I was able to take what I thought of the week before, and advanced it to fit my theory on the conception of this universe. First, I was able to take the whirl I needed for adding multiple directions and motion to my solid, that I thought of a couple of weeks before. Then I was able to think of what was needed to have a whirl draw into a vortex.

So, I was able to move my theory along quite well. The only problem though is that I am dealing in a area that is not dealt with in any studies, so I get a lot of flack for my views. Thanks again for being the catalyst to my new way of seeing my theory and the universe.


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Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity - 04-10-2008, 02:53 AM

Hi Vincent

Yea, the CERN.

The Canadian scientist (name went in and out the other) was on the news to say it is theoretically possible but then if reasonable would have happened before now in the atmosphere of the earth .... hmmm shows the platform of Canadian practical nature i suppose science forgoes over here.

an here i am getting to the same point that yes it is possible for a black hole to form from simple observational perceptions of nature ... he talks of a vortex in a puddle it might be and i think of a vortexes in the ocean it is ...

I wonder how practical it would have been to use a golf ball size form in stead of a softball size in the A bomb?

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Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity - 04-10-2008, 03:15 AM

Vincent;

What do you think of these questions that came to my mind a couple days ago?

What if measuring a point particle, is in fact the measuring of the zero point of a sub-atomic Vortex?

What if the measuring of the undulating event horizon of this Vortex, could be considered the measuring of a wave function, or better still a string?


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