The Universal Vortical Singularity

[SteveA]

Thanks for the thread and though it would be nice to have greater detail regarding the detailed mechanics behind vortices, it doesn't appear to be a subject that modern science has been able to deal with very well.

I've done a bit of work with respect to trying to find 'natural' characteristics that conscious senses and mental cognition should perceive for arbitrary physical phenomenon and "the vortex" appears to continually arise in most any subject of 'sufficient' complexity.

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Greeting SteveA,

Welcome to this thread.

Indeed vortex is a subject modern science has not been able to deal with very well.

Vortex phemonena is ubiquitous, this illusive wonder therefore would appear everywhere when anyone looks for it anywhere, unintentionally, or deliberately.

I hope you would enjoy the vortex exploration in this thread like many and myself have.

Best to you.

Thanks for the thread and though it would be nice to have greater detail regarding the detailed mechanics behind vortices, it doesn't appear to be a subject that modern science has been able to deal with very well.

I've done a bit of work with respect to trying to find 'natural' characteristics that conscious senses and mental cognition should perceive for arbitrary physical phenomenon and "the vortex" appears to continually arise in most any subject of 'sufficient' complexity.

[G_burnett]

Hi Graham,

Please elaborate on your illustration.

Thanks.

just back on line for a minute my friend.

the comprssion of two same ring plate poles subjecting an injection of matter in motion to a collection of the vortex emit on the sides(vortex by default and only in a slice view pictorial ....) (sort of an electron tube without the control in the emit)? ... i will have more time later toniight at work to catch up on the site reading ... kind regards graham

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

IMHO, from the UVS perspective, all physical are vortical. Any displacement in a vortical medium perturbed by any motion (be it rectilinear motion or curvilnear motoin) would naturally end up in vortical motion, and manifests in an apparent form of vortex when the conditions are met.

Vortex does play a very important role in almost all motion. What I need to understand is why does almost all motion change to vortex in the end?

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Hi all,

Came across this marvellous image by NASA yesterday.



This is an image of Earth taken from the Space Shuttle Endeavour docked to the International Space Station on Aug 11th, 2007. This is a section of Earth in open ocean blanketed by a cloud layer with anisotrophy pattern. It strikingly resembles galaxy superclusters with large empty voids as shown in a chart below.

In a vortical paradigm, a galaxy cluster is comparable to a cluster of molecules and solar system objects are comparable to subatomic particles. The above image is an evidence that suggests superclusters and voids are vortically formed and are levitated on a parabolic surface of a larger spheroid. From the UVS perspective, the observable universe with superclusters and voids are vortically weaved and move in perpetual motion in the paradigm of a greater vortical system.



For more elaboration from the UVS perspective for this phenomenon, have a look at topics on ""Vortical universe model of UVS" and "Vortically expanding Universe".

Enjoy.

[dipayankar]

If we disturb a vortex, and then withdraw the disturbing force, will the vortex return to its original motion?

IMHO, from the UVS perspective, all physical are vortical. Any displacement in a vortical medium perturbed by any motion (be it rectilinear motion or curvilnear motoin) would naturally end up in vortical motion, and manifests in an apparent form of vortex when the conditions are met.

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Its seemed to behave that way. I have tried this out with a whirlpool experiment and observed that once the perturbation is removed, the vortex reforms. This is as long as the forces that drive the vortex to form is there.

If we disturb a vortex, and then withdraw the disturbing force, will the vortex return to its original motion?

[G_burnett]

I have a hard time not putting Einstein in the realm of physics Dip to your listing elsewhere in the TOE to be no classical his ponders. Why would you say Dip he is not classical physics...

My head is in ponder with the shape of a double Mobius. I am thinking the wonderful capabilities these days of a machine shop that they could cut one for sure to a certain equality and balance of form circular and picture it ultimate shape to be tubular with etched netting per sec rotating on the outer surface of the tube to give a guide for ponder further.

This shape I have in my head is based on the two plate variation of two axial (wobble) Vincent ... the motion creating the double Mobius 720 degrees if we went into the thought of having a point singularity of substance traveling in the tube or slice pictorial moment of motion ... a snapshot sort of thing if needed for a define.

Creating the point singularity (put your idea here to the shape of the moment) following the rules of redshift of course is my direction.

Why you might ask but all I can say is I think it worthy in the nature of "why she stopped light" (Harvard reviews) lol .... I base the ponder on the Bow wave of pressure out there in the compare creating the continue of ability to do work. That is about the simple i can write my thoughts on all this right now.

Enjoy, kind regards, graham

[G_burnett]

Its seemed to behave that way. I have tried this out with a whirlpool experiment and observed that once the perturbation is removed, the vortex reforms. This is as long as the forces that drive the vortex to form is there.

....I never liked the words seemed to and i have the picture of a vortex being a created event that such disturbed is just disturbing the effect of force that creating the vortex and is not lessened by a disturb perturbation just the matter being effected disturbed not the forces that created it... but i am very tired right now.g

[dipayankar]

Well it would be interesting to note the ultimate shape of the motion when both the vortical as well as the disturbing forces are withdrawn.

Its seemed to behave that way. I have tried this out with a whirlpool experiment and observed that once the perturbation is removed, the vortex reforms. This is as long as the forces that drive the vortex to form is there.