Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity -
04-11-2008, 07:52 AM
Hi Graham,
The singular vortex mechanism refers to the smaller grey spheroid in precession that wobbles in a two-axis spin in a geometrical gravity field. The main axis of the singular vortex mechanism is on the rotation axis exerting a consistence centrifugal force on the viscous mass, the secondary axis is on the revovling axis that provides a consistence driving force.
The precession effect of these forces affecting the whole mass of the wobbling spheroid are amplified enormously from the core towards the surface on lower density viscous mass layers that initiates the fromation of singular vortex paradoxically in a top-down manner from the surface. This precession effect on the suspended spheroid is caused externally.
Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity -
04-11-2008, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by G_burnett
Ph no flack from me! I just was trying to put it to vectors lol!
below post as well Ty sir! the empathic wave resonance of vortex creation is my rule one event horizon minus one .. and the internal is the forces going beyond the event horizon to add along the horizontal vector... the composition of the particle stream string, the nature of, quarks for the inference now more enjoyable ... perception perception
speaking of vortex do we not see the effect on a muon knocking an electron into a pigtail?
I wonder if there is a waiting effect on these things? I perceived today a particle form in empathy to another hold open a door for the other to exit. Then in a spin turn around to follow and match the speed of the other side by side?
And then to my amaze ment ... he got a kiss!
Peace!~ graham ahhh the science of natural phenomena
Hi Graham,
Saw the six diagrams in the gallery posted by you, and has gone through them many times along with your postings along with the descriptions and the PM elaboration.
I picture you are developing the vortex mechanism by vectors representation. The first image shows a fundamental interactions of the force dynamics in opposite direction, pic 2,3 &4 on event horizon, pic 5 was on external interference causing magnetic field reversal, and the last one was on vortex creation.
I am not sure about your question on the knocking out effect of an electron in chambers showing a pigtail path. Perhaps enquiry into electrodynamics on electric current flow might give you the answer.
Many experts has also tried to decipher the vortex mechanism through interpreting the vortex dynamics directly, but none has been exactly successful so far. The enigmas of these force dynamics has baffles those researchers that many mysteries about it are left unexplained.
My suggestion the focus to describe the vortex mechanism should start from the wobbling spheroid in precession on the dynamics that has amplified towards the surface and initiated the vortex formation in a top-down manner from the surface. This should also apply for induced precession for the spheroid on lower latitude by external interplanetary perturbations that cause the magnetic reversal on the surface.
Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity -
04-11-2008, 12:20 PM
TY Vincent once again.
I certainly never implied i am in the box that is for sure. The dynamics of my platform is to apply vector analysis to the interactions, what ever they may be perceived. Raw.
The two spheroids in orbit exhibiting that they have axis in varied occasion to the gravity effect on the other, the picture posted 'is' an effect I have noticed in mechanical form.
the question that first comes to mind is the inference that it is an external compared to an internal beyond the shell.. i have a hard time with this on both a macro and higher planetary consideration.
the reason for this on the higher plane is we have to suppose the actions in the core has no effect?
I have i believe mentioned that the fluid form akin to a balloon being the shell and the inside being the fluid form what ever it is filled with, has effect on the event pictured such as a mass factor of difference in the molecule form of an atom in the shell(s) of the electron and the mass of the proton and neutrons, charge, speed and direction of movement would 'seem' to cause the warble of axis as well as you describe in argument of sort the external parabola orbit of the Grey spheroid being mass of greater density perhaps then the center body with gravitational effect. Did I get that right? Or in varied mass possibilities? I will not argue this either way because the creation of vortex starting from the top down not bottom up is valid inference unless the free positron for example is indeed coming out of time and I have had a hard time with that to say maybe.
Right what is that!
I vector force fields by the interaction of particle stream based on varied cause of composition/form of the stream. this leads into increased velocity, faster then light even perpetual motion the possible scenario of my thoughts from outside the box where we, .. might, .. go some day.
We have instantaneous effect noted in rule one platform of the interaction I start with non dependent on gravity or other being relevant ... vectoring to me the direction more then the cause and by incident of directional effect the cause or curse of paradox to go further other means may be stagnant in.
Maybe there is no further to go but some things are worth contemplating.
to give the dynamics of vortex creation is to lowly me the trying of understanding of the interaction relationship. Keeping my mind open and with a try to compare to more natural event in everyday occurrence ... keeping my eyes open.
and even to the results closing them in self consciousness which be assured i will not do here.
Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity -
04-11-2008, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by G_burnett
TY Vincent once again.
the question that first comes to mind is the inference that it is an external compared to an internal beyond the shell.. i have a hard time with this on both a macro and higher planetary consideration.
the reason for this on the higher plane is we have to suppose the actions in the core has no effect?
The actions in the core has every effects; the external forces are all seeking toward the core, then outwardly from the core the effects of these induced forces are dilated and magnified in angular momentum for lighter density viscous mass towards the surface. These forces are induced outside-in that the consolidated effects are then inside-out.
You can analogue it like you are exposed to an environment of joyful atmosphere, the external joyfulness thus induces you by seeking towards your core center and consolidate there, the resonated effects of this joyfulness therefore vibrates and then radiates outwardly through your actions from you core.
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Originally Posted by G_burnett
I have i believe mentioned that the fluid form akin to a balloon being the shell and the inside being the fluid form what ever it is filled with, has effect on the event pictured such as a mass factor of difference in the molecule form of an atom in the shell(s) of the electron and the mass of the proton and neutrons, charge, speed and direction of movement would 'seem' to cause the warble of axis as well as you describe in argument of sort the external parabola orbit of the Grey spheroid being mass of greater density perhaps then the center body with gravitational effect. Did I get that right? Or in varied mass possibilities? I will not argue this either way because the creation of vortex starting from the top down not bottom up is valid inference unless the free positron for example is indeed coming out of time and I have had a hard time with that to say maybe.
Right what is that!
Peace! ~ Graham
That is correct in describing gravity as an EMF pushing towards the core, this maintain a single model for force interactions universally. The grey spheroid is not a mass of greater density, it has to be smaller and lighter in mass to be driven by the center body suspending it. This center body along with the grey spheroid is suspended by revolving on another bigger center mass, but this is not the issue, the bigger center spheroid is there only for illustrating the secondary axis of the grey spheroid in providing the perpetual driving force to sustain the vortex form.
Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity -
04-11-2008, 03:02 PM
Hello Vincent, thank you for your post.
The interesting thing here today my friend is that while you were getting your post ready so was I with the next Picture ten and it may be comparable.
I had to decide the best way to the waiting form effect I mentioned in the form persona holding the door open, and you gave me the idea that to my rule of thumb the event that would take place in two parallel streams joining and changing direction 90 degrees. I am in the drawing depicting + an – factors but they are quantified.
In the picture I suddenly realized to my rule of thumb that the small spheroid holds the door of opportunity open not for an exit but for an entry to the center spheroid and the streams are transferred to the direction of the center spheroid effect but only when the grey spheroid is in position varied and thereby the wobble is perceived, of the major spheroid axis and streams all being observed as a vortex event.
The dotted lines are not relevant, correct; the green lines added in that direction of stream join is not going to happen with the event curtailed my event held open. The dotted dark line is for my own personal dabbler effect of dimensional effect personal thought process and containment factor of thought to the picture not an orbit as the view is cross cut. I just could not erase it.
The A+ b- parallel is a plate in motion from? I agree it is not the forces along the horizontal x relevant to but more as they are there from some other axis and could be curved not true parallel such as a loop from distance an size of the mass creating it.
Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity -
04-12-2008, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by G_burnett
Hello Vincent, thank you for your post.
The A+ b- parallel is a plate in motion from? I agree it is not the forces along the horizontal x relevant to but more as they are there from some other axis and could be curved not true parallel such as a loop from distance an size of the mass creating it.
Very interesting please continue my friend.
Sincerely ~ Peace! Graham.
TY Graham, for your immersed interest into the dynamics of singular vortex mechanism. Though you have described it as an offbeat drummer manner to look at things, it could instead help me to view in other angles I have never perceived before. Therefore I should TY more for your insight that illustrated to me how others can look at the same thing differently.
The A+ b- parallel is a plate in angular motion, it is externally from the revolving axis. The A+ b- vectors both should be in the same direction from their course of motion, but in differential motion they are in opposite direction relatively, A+ is with a bigger radius than b- in the plain in a same angular velocity is therefore a stronger momentum than b-. This differential momentum subjected to gravity in the parabolic surface becomes the counter balancing center-seeking centripetal force that regresses in a circular path that maintains the equilibrium of the vortex form. There are other forces you have involved in your diagram 7, other than the three primary forces, the other vectors are merely perturbations, are not the main component forces.
Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity -
04-12-2008, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PoPpAScience
Vincent my friend;
I do not know if you realize it or not, that you have given me all the information I need to verify my theory. WOW!! I can not stop reading it over and over again. You truly are the missing link in my studies. Thanks.
If I exchange your word of nothingness for Paradox of Potential, I could add most of what is written here into my theory. Daily I am more and more comfortable with the theory that the vortex and its Paradoxical nature of pure Potential, is at the route of all there is.
It is great that two people coming from different ends of one spectrum are intersecting here in this forum. I look forward to traveling closer to your end of the spectrum, and hope you can come closer to my end of the spectrum.
Dear Allen my friend;
I am very glad that the descriptions of singular vortex are useful for your theory. I am merely guiding you to see from an angle with things you probably have already known, in a reminder manner only. What you have gathered through it, is between you and the nature you sees through your mind's eye, I am just merely pointing a direction only, while you are the event seeker and therefore has found through your own effort. Best to you.
Yes I am also feeling the same that two people coming from different ends of one spectrum are intersecting here in this forum, and resonated. I felt we are going in the same direction in the search, though not in the same spectrum, however is looking on the same thing, and yes I would take your offer go closer to your end to gain your insights and believe you have much to offer.
Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity -
04-12-2008, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Vincent Wee-Foo
TY Graham, for your immersed interest into the dynamics of singular vortex mechanism. Though you have described it as an offbeat drummer manner to look at things, it could instead help me to view in other angles I have never perceived before. Therefore I should TY more for your insight that illustrated to me how others can look at the same thing differently.
The A+ b- parallel is a plate in angular motion, it is externally from the revolving axis. The A+ b- vectors both should be in the same direction from their course of motion, but in differential motion they are in opposite direction relatively, A+ is with a bigger radius than b- in the plain in a same angular velocity is therefore a stronger momentum than b-. This differential momentum subjected to gravity in the parabolic surface becomes the counter balancing center-seeking centripetal force that regresses in a circular path that maintains the equilibrium of the vortex form. There are other forces you have involved in your diagram 7, other than the three primary forces, the other vectors are merely perturbations, are not the main component forces.
Best to you.
Good morning Vincent
Wow someone could understand me! The other forces in 7 were put in to more or less see if they would hold true to the overall, habit of mine.
I have not been to coffee yet.
The relative view showing different direction is imaginary for descriptive purpose as the form is fluid with varied dimensional features of the fluid plate motion of all streams in the ocean.
It is the motion itself my interest more then the interacting static axis of the Grey or the major.
It all seems that the Central composition of both the particles can create the wobble effect having particle form of a nucleus with possible different form, mass and charge or no charge even. In the fluid form of a core in meld form effected by the static shell or crust with friction, volcanic release, gravitational change to the effect of ?? there are lots of variables but the pull push of forces in any degree create the imaginary A+ b- vectoring use of a line, and described A+ being a bigger force of varied degree gets the Capital A and b- so as not to forget the varied forces can be + or - and varied degree gets the lower case. both + and - to indicate opposite not just magnetic but grav or any two opposite forces named for convenience of the perception description.
In the beginning of the vector line it is but a dot. When you have a second dot then you have direction. Depiction from there ....? eventually we ended up with language amazed at the variations of direction we could make with the line and even yet amazing is to see other form making lines then the human persona by such interesting things as ... its all interesting!
again thank you for the entertaining moment my friend. Glad i can reciprocate to what ever degree.
Jeez thats why I'm here. Oh OH i ordered my magnets, an the brittleness of the ceramics hell my dad had that figured out in the early sixties. Lets hope the strength is there. I always wanted to post a thingy!
Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity -
04-13-2008, 07:22 AM
Hi Vincent;
I am studying very hard right now on the many aspects of the vortex. It is amazing how many endless paths it takes me down. When I am in wikipedia, I find myself many times over clicking 6 pages deep just to read one sentence that I started in the first page. I have read most of this knowledge before, but I find with the "Universal Vortical Singularity" at the forefront of my mind, it is like reading it for the first time with all new ways of see it. Its like being a kid in a candy store once again.
I was wondering how deep into the sub atomic world do your studies go on vortices? And if not far, do you have the interest to go deeper? I see you are an independent researcher. Are you in school right now, or working?
I was wondering also if you have studied much on, the 'Zero-point field'?
Allen.
"Paradox of Potential popped Aware." ~Allen Barrow
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Re: The Universal Vortical Singularity -
04-14-2008, 12:00 AM
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Hi Vincent;....
....I was wondering also if you have studied much on, the 'Zero-point field'?
Hi Al
Hope you don't mind the butt in but the Zero Point field heads you into the Heisenberg uncertainty principle that involves the measurement of particle position and momentum .... there is much research in this field because it was soon calculated that there is enough free electromagnetic energy in one cubic meter of space to boil all the oceans on earth.
the location of a particle in statical dimension becomes increasing dependent on the size of the dimension of measurement and thus as it is smaller makes the measurement of the momentum less predictable and in the all direction possibility of interactions on that level the larger the space looked at to get a momentum factor the uncertainty of the position goes up.
In the measurement of the Zero Point Field energy of a quantum area of space it is all the three spatial dimensions of frequencies all the way up to the Planck frequency of osculation used to calculate the total energy and the Zero Point field is the minimal over zero of that calculation, the background noise ...
I think in trig the quadrant can be calculated to any interaction to remove the uncertainty of position based on particle type and in the interaction direction predicted/known with minimal consideration to momentum except as the after effect cause perspective to an event... it made it to the quad or not sort of thing and as the energy is in all directions there will be effect in that quadrant noticeable but not the one expected perhaps. It would then tend to be usable energy, as it would still exist where you might find it and the momentum less a factor but to the intended receptor needed, or better said referenced. The proton reflects from all that will not have the same frequency of form but then any form has the resonant ability to absorb some of the frequency and the proton then in reflective state with varied frequency and momentum goes on ...
Now in the determination of Quarks there are more certainty factors to the equations possible to quadrant location and the momentum strength, form and nature of the particle, with mass or not more thought of in transient form not to have mass until out of transient fluid form by better recognition then of the event to give position. I am still working over quarks ...
In Gravitational platform where the EMF has so much equality to be on the platform ill bow out leave to you Vincent ... I may not in my thoughts be any where near understanding any of this.The EMF zero point in the Lorentz force equation, because it does not require mass as said above out of the picture with modern considerations of what constitutes particle form, electromagnetic zero-point field theorem is probably fundamental to the ALL.
Peace!~Graham
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