The Universal Vortical Singularity

[spacedout]

As has been said nature does produce a vortex. What I would like to know is how a vortex can have a left hand spin for positive particles and a left hand spin for negative particles. Also, if electrons are traveling as with the earth why isn't there a magnetic field or why can't we observe it?-- relitivity I suppose. If magnetism and static charge are the same thing what causes the difference in the action of the two fields? I can see where a cube having a vortex (inverted or otherwise) on each of the 6 faces would form all the charges for quarks or leptons.

It is easy to see a full spin for bosons such as light -- a point on the tip of a propeller will generate a sign wave along a parallel plane. But how do you account for a 1/2 spin in which it will take two turns around say an electron to arrive at the starting point -- and what is the condition that causes you to think the second turn around is where you started? Lets say, with a lack of understanding, the the electron is a magnetic gear consisting of a vortex in which a field moves into the vortex, swirls around the donut shape and moves outward into space and back around to the suction end. Of course we would have a north and south pole. Now this electron field gear is fixed in position to space coordinances and the observer then would have to observe the field with a 4 pole mechanism to get a half spin -- two poles north between two poles south.

Lets start at the north pole of the electron and observe the poles as we move around the electron with the 4-pole analyzer that is free to turn. Because this is a gear system it will take two turns of the 4-pole analyzer to arive at the starting point. The problem is that a single turn around the electron will put a south pole to a north pole at the starting point -- what would prompt you to take another turn to have a north pole to south pole alignment at the starting point around the electron? How do you detect a half spin in an experiment?

A neutron should have six vortex faces to have charges fitting the charges of quarks and leptons. A neutron must have 3 face vortexes with the north pole outward and 3 face vortexes with the south pole facing outward. In this way the field is neutral -- however, bonding north and south poles increases the magnetic density and this field would automatically form bonds between say the electron neutrinos into larger neutrinoes. Something should be noticed here, the field is neutral nearly like ambient aether and therefor would have little mass except for the energy of the vortex and the mass from the vortex would not account for much gain in mass. It is known that mv (momentum) of a particle at a given temperature is constant -- the lighter it is the faster it travels. This may be the reason that electron neutrinoes and families travel near the speed of light and have so little mass.

[G_burnett]

no matter where the electron effects we dimension the electron as a negative value to other value ... there is no two polar state but one state forward and one inward ... spin is like postulation and ponder of aether. What you want to describe or model have to have these foundations to the ponder and spin, structure spin, orbital spin with alignment created ... fluid dynamic spin circler in the tube ... they all have to be modeled in the ponder and the terms may not be so much the need of standard but value given them first .... mass or no mass model or energy field spinning ... how you are observing what you are describing is very important to grasp or a failure of communication is had. IMHO graham ..

[spacedout]

In other word there is a negative pole and an inward state sort of like a Mobius strip. Is this negative pole wave particle fixed in space so that the negative pole moves into the donut hole and comes out the opposite end? If your analyzer is feeling the negative pole after traveling around say the electron how is this happening? -- does it mean that the field of the analyzer is controling the 1/2 spin of the toris?

[G_burnett]

if you think of a tube and look in one side it is negative and the other is positive, the field generated by the flow in the tube becomes the tube boundaries .. now join the ends ... bending the tube. The Toronic structure. where did the other pole go? no magic ... it just is in the center of the donut looking down at it ... and as the whole structure turns it makes a picture of a ball ... pulsing ... and it is degrading emit or vortex degrade if allowed to by any under the umbrella which it does to symmetry of motion or final emit of the polar state effecting forward .. .

[spacedout]

I guess you could think of it that way but there will still be a north and south pole as the swirl in the center of the donut moves from one side outward. This would be like a worlpool drawing super microscopic particles that fill space into it.

[spacedout]

Also the movement of space particle into the vortex would slow it down. If you say the vortex confines the ends of the swirling tube structure into no north or south pole there wouldn't be any magnetism -- this would mean that electric charge is not from the vortex. Aside from that the charge then must be a point in the vortex that happens to in a certain position in space so as to align with the opposite charge of the analyzer. When the charge is in the center of the vortex there isn't any charge but when moving around the outside of the vortex the negative charge is observant. This can't possible explain 2 turns of an analyzer to return at the starting position unless the negative charge knows when to pop out even if it is moving around a Moebius strip.

Another thing, what causes the vortex from expanding indeffinatly? -- unless something is impacting it inward from a force carrier? If you say a charge then what is this charge if it isn't a field force carrier? Personally I prefer a universe filled with basic Planck unit of quantum wave particles that can make all matter and energy and force fields in the universe. I see matter as having 6 faces each with a + or - charge to give the charges of quarks and leptons. The core of Q&P are driven together by these basic + and - waves that pound the core. A splash pattern would occur at each of the six faces -- since incoming particles from space would be equal amounts of pressure and vacuum wave particles the charge at the surface will cancel out the opposite charge leaving the origonal charge. When the particles cancel vector movement is reduced to random movement that constitutes the aether.

In other words the charge is due to the impacts of forward movements of positive waves and the opposite pull of negative wave particles at the face of quarks or leptons. A pressure wave impacts the aether compressing it and then falls back to ambient aether while a vacuum wave is a void in which the aether falls into the void as the void moves forward. I believe this is what a positive and negative charge is -- a magnetic field is a vortex field. I like this better.

I'm sure you know how the 1/2 spin vortex works but I don't -- I need more explanations.

[G_burnett]

I guess you could think of it that way but there will still be a north and south pole as the swirl in the center of the donut moves from one side outward. This would be like a worlpool drawing super microscopic particles that fill space into it.

if there is symmetry of state aligned then indeed up the line you have current but no need to make up small particles as it is all wave at this level ..
in regards to 1/2 you have to get into conservation of energy rules ... one pushes on another to move one half, and the other moves one half the other way ... quite simple really... how would we get any position change? easy one, transfer of energy perpendicular taking place in the same manner of velocity degrade ... that should stimulate more questions in demand of a view point before the answers are found ... g.

[SteveA]

I thought this pdf white paper might interest a few. It's basically regarding geometrical packing of toroidal magnetic fields in 3-D and some correlations with atomic orbital shells.

http://www.commonsensescience.org/pd..._structure.pdf

And as another potentially interesting sidelight - "bit string physics" (this appears to be an extended version of an earlier model done by the same author - I haven't looked through his material much though, so I don't know how ad hoc the ideas might be):

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/429634/files/0003051.pdf

A more detailed paper by the same author:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/9707/9707020v1.pdf

[G_burnett]

lightening on saturn ty for the links steve ..

[G_burnett]

I thought this pdf white paper might interest a few. It's basically regarding geometrical packing of toroidal magnetic fields in 3-D and some correlations with atomic orbital shells.

http://www.commonsensescience.org/pd..._structure.pdf

And as another potentially interesting sidelight - "bit string physics" (this appears to be an extended version of an earlier model done by the same author - I haven't looked through his material much though, so I don't know how ad hoc the ideas might be):

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/429634/files/0003051.pdf

A more detailed paper by the same author:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/9707/9707020v1.pdf

The first link has to have position ponder when read. ... they are close though.

The second link one has to have a real good foundation in Feynman pictorial to see the lack ... DOE backed too? hmmm ... waste of money .. sorry. no imaginary reality added to make something work ever will make it work ..

the third link ... it may be back far enough to ignor in the face of the new but i will review it deeper then the other as it is catching my interest on the scan lo l...