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[AntonioLao]

I do not believe in some ways we can ever state the theory of everything

This statement is more subjectively true than objectively false. Objectively human intelligence is getting closer to something resembling a TOE. The best physical theory to date is called quantum field theory QFT but unfortunately it needed a background independence formulation similar to general relativity. Efforts along this line all failed to provide any plausible description. But if we start with the quantization of space-time itself then it might provide the starting point for a quantum theory of space-time. The question is then 'Can space-time be quantized?' and if so 'How can it be quantized?'.

[G_burnett]

Hi Graham ...

Sorry I haven't replied for so long.

Regarding the hexagonal clouds around Saturn's North Pole. The clouds are not hexagonal like a crystal. but are traveling a hexagonal path. Four Earths could fit inside the hexagon



Hexagon Picture

cool bananas ... greg

On revisit to the original posting and reference to the Screw effect and worry what will happen if it unscrewed?

The inverse square law applied to gravity clearly tells us in the mass of the core and distance from the core mass the gravity is not the effect in a major way of the cloud formation except as a secondary effect on the lower air masses of varied to the upper in composition. The major forces have to be of magnetic harmonic effect for the laws to be applied. There is just not enough GF at those heights in the atmosphere any more in relativity there would be the effect on earth by core mass GF being able to form the Hex here.

This led me to the ponder of atmosphere composition and negative frame drag spin in Euclidean vector with the consideration of crystal habit of the composing clumping ... adding to the condense we have the habit becoming more predictable to perspective as a full crystal in the molecular.

*noting that the crystal formation out of the meld is not dependent as an immediate effect out of the fluidness of a meld but is on a time frame of condense, the tweaking effect manifested to give stages of condense. As mentioned the south pole postulated to be a clear vortex removed the --+ nature of the composite repel and is one of attraction to the lower atmosphere my MF and spin vortical effect clearing a "hole" noted at the south pole predominate until there is entry into a state of meld and release of the atomic bond to rise of the atoms accordingly to atomic weight.

The harmonic acoustical factor is noted in the wave form of the clouds showing and are not to the inverse square law in the acoustical look. They match the pattern predictable around the hex.

The harmonic wave is the GF being pushed in and out from the pause of aether effect ... a register of effect notable by the the balance and nature of habit of the composite in the upper atmosphere.

I hope this becomes more clear as I ponder, feel free to argue the points to the math and I will respond after review ... or question it more and I will try to review with further study direction as I am doing a lot of research and revisit of theorem base right now in a multi task environment.

My spell check to the word Euclidean seems to be out of kilter so please excuse the other spelling in the other posts I have made having big fingers and poor eye sight some times before star bucks. ... how do i send all this to NASA ?? lol
kind regards to all g

Antonio, ty for your post and I will reply in a bit. G

[G_burnett]

for you vincent and greg and all ..Saturn (cont)

I have been discussing with sage some of the geometry of Saturn unusual formation at the northern pole of a hexagonal shape of cloud formation stationary.

As prior postulated the effect in the atmosphere has to be magnetic field in origin with minor effect from both the Sol and GF of the planet, moons and rings.

The major effect from the reverse spin of the planet to the comparing of Earth spin with both in the same orbital direction around Sol is also a major factor in the wind formation in the atmosphere.

To the understanding of geometric shapes having six cusps or points and being maintained in composite nature of the atmosphere there is the formula as follows to consider.

A special plane curve can be generated by the trace of a fixed point on a small circle that rolls within a larger circle.

Giving the smaller circle the radius r, and the larger circle has a radius described as
R = kr, then the parametric equations for the plane curve can be given by :

X(\theta) = r (k-1) \ left (\cos\theta + \frac{\cos((k-1)\theta)}{k-1}\right),

Y(\theta) = r (k-1) \ left (\sine\theta - \frac{\sine((k-1)\theta)}{k-1}\right).

In Cartesian space we have to let k = 6 for 6 cusps being then created to form the hexagram shape with vortices’ spin considerations.

The number 6 = 6/1 is an integer.

As such the formation of 6 cusps plane curves will result with 6 cusps being created by the formula applied.

On the south pole (k) can be given a value equal to an irrational number with a combined inward direction of vector spin and the paradox of being empty, no hex formation. The change in this to an irrational number can be thought of in cause by varied effect of the rings, moons, and the just enough change by the Sol emit of spin force in a 1-2 effect 1 on a positive emit and 2 secondary time wise due to spin curvature plane or sol emit on the negative pole of the orb.

This is the nature of the term Hypocycloid and the above formula to bother the numbers to it.

It does not take away from the added fact of the formation in spin and magnetic field effect on the composite molecular particle form in less dense form as nor other postulated featured effect.

Kind regards ~ graham.

[Graybeard]

To the understanding of geometric shapes having six cusps or points and being maintained in composite nature of the atmosphere there is the formula as follows to consider.

As such the formation of 6 cusps plane curves will result with 6 cusps being created by the formula applied.


This is the nature of the term Hypocycloid and the above formula to bother the numbers to it.

It does not take away from the added fact of the formation in spin and magnetic field effect on the composite molecular particle form in less dense form as nor other postulated featured effect.

Kind regards ~ graham.

Far Out Sage ..... you lost me on the maths totally. I'll take your word for that. I checked out Hypocycloid and I agree that they can form hexagon paths of travel.

Each side of the hexagon (k = 6) consists of one revolution of the object, in this case a cloud. But the hexagon sides on Saturn are 8000 klms long ... the cloud would be revolving many times in that straight path ???

In which case wouldn't k have to equal a very high number ... and if so would the geometric still be hexagonal ??

cool bananas ... greg

[G_burnett]

This statement is more subjectively true than objectively false. Objectively human intelligence is getting closer to something resembling a TOE. The best physical theory to date is called quantum field theory QFT but unfortunately it needed a background independence formulation similar to general relativity. Efforts along this line all failed to provide any plausible description. But if we start with the quantization of space-time itself then it might provide the starting point for a quantum theory of space-time. The question is then 'Can space-time be quantized?' and if so 'How can it be quantized?'.

I am still working on this one.

I must first decide if the qualification is right or qualify the terms time and space a bit different. Then quantify the qualification. Are you sure the Qualification is correct? ... QFT ... Very interesting ponder. I will think of this from vectoring options ... my first attempt has me trying to look at past me a proton emit to see what it has reached before i get there. If we can see it after the emit then why not from the other direction after it got to where it is going? ...past our slow moving clumping form.

If time is 0 = (-a) = ((-x < 0] or is it never 0 = (a) = [(x)+1) the Ray.

remember all came from the big bang or not so effect can be seen to the all in any snap shot ... the spookiness of E factor of ponder. If we effected the stream in the future can it be noted in the past before it happened?

from there we note the instantaneous effect in the spookiness event.

with no effect from the future showing up we are then in a fated existence.

or is the burned out bulb that has given me darkness really the future? where I turned it out and now it has gone out for good so as to keep the varied time dimension implied by the event out of paradox where some future me made it happen by what ... determination?

I am just pondering here do not take it too serious .. it would be MF the effector with spin the controller and quark speed the memory ... until it condensed/uncondensed ... which as an ongoing variation in different scalier of time and makes the memory ability sort of poor past the moment.

looking at the rear of a proton past ... we would not see more then the moment. .. same thing with electron and the two slit experiment ... when we look it acts different and is not a wave lol yes Ty , i will continue later.

Kind regards graham

[G_burnett]

Far Out Sage ..... you lost me on the maths totally. I'll take your word for that. I checked out Hypocycloid and I agree that they can form hexagon paths of travel.

Each side of the hexagon (k = 6) consists of one revolution of the object, in this case a cloud. But the hexagon sides on Saturn are 8000 klms long ... the cloud would be revolving many times in that straight path ???

In which case wouldn't k have to equal a very high number ... and if so would the geometric still be hexagonal ??

cool bananas ... greg

Now you did it.

Picture the speed of spin and flux sage is yelling in that density a factor as well ... and do not forget it can be any variation of the integer 6/1 = 12/2 .... Pascal lines ... what we see as a event in time is just relative ... this is not AC pulse **********... or ******* (patent stuff again sorry) effect ... there are you happy sage yells lol. ~ g

yes in wick look up that word again and slow drag the cursor over the formula given and you will see mine I think, its been a while for me.

pss now that Sage went back to a nappy, pascal lines from the six cusps can be continued to varied geometric patterns relative to a 3D view along a vortex axial singular down or up and thus the hex seen is a slice of that column like a slice of a crystal. ... it is all one event from the nano all the way up to the size vis-able ... and effect up the line to the MF effect on the content of the less dense meld ... Hmm I am having a hard time with the term as all mass is plasma orientated in my head of varied densities thats all ...

[AntonioLao]

Are you sure the Qualification is correct?

In QFT there are the creation and the annihilation operators their quantifications allow the successful prediction of particle interactions and also successfully tested by experiments. A case in point is the annihilation of 2 photons creating an electron and a positron pair called pair production. The reverse interaction of e-e+can sometimes creates more than 2 photons. All these interaction events are recorded by the particle data group at the website at http://pdg.lbl.gov

[G_burnett]

In QFT there are the creation and the annihilation operators their quantifications allow the successful prediction of particle interactions and also successfully tested by experiments. A case in point is the annihilation of 2 photons creating an electron and a positron pair called pair production. The reverse interaction of e-e+can sometimes creates more than 2 photons. All these interaction events are recorded by the particle data group at the website at http://pdg.lbl.gov

TY for your reply

the example of the electron split as you would qualify it is just the example I had been thinking of in my prior post.

Is the noted event giving rise to the positron being part of the electron but ahead of the said splitting in time? It became more logical for me to think that where the positron is and then comes back the effect noted.

Particle vectoring demands the consideration that we have a state of where the particle has two poles .. a positive and a negative. The mass of the electron considered in transient form will be as no mass exists until a snapshot view (like taking a single picture of a transient event of mass moving) and at this point the electron shows no wave properties at rest in the picture just particle properties.

On the other hand in transient form till a smashing event where the side of the proton having one polar determination or the other is without mass determinative the future electron negative creation is in a state where one can predict the electron has the properties of being a particle with singular polar qualification negative ... transient form of a proton having a just positive and just negative state ... two particles connected in linear quark speed to stretched shape as positron in transient form... string theory saying the stretch is a break and reformation through aether matter having heated mass ... addition?

In advance of the proton but still the proton, where when the proton is smashed by another proton in the same state of being the positron is freed from being in a transient form two particle entity to do what it does ... instantaneously in vortex pigtail return in attraction and come back together to the event of smashing in a paradox view where one perceives it actually came from the break to appear out of time.

Why is it that there are not two positrons? Two particles smashing? Add the quark charges, consider the spin right hand rule and you will have the positron in the same vector plane Euclidean space determinable with torque induced procession showing a cone vortical return to the event horizon, a singular pigtail. ...note the mass determinable.

Veto rules demand two things, with the concept of a particle having just one polar determination positive or negative then its a whole new geometrical and ponder with little crossover.

Why does the positron if in advance of the proton form not get smashed first? Paradox of view where one has to consider where and as a wave form IT is in the stream extend, the nature of a stream and predictable to be ?? right, the factor of randomness debunked ...and i should add in addition the size variation factor ... it is effected to be in the place where the pigtail "supposedly" is but in reality it is in all the noticed line of a pigtail not just a point on the line singular, it is transient form remember. It is more of a collapse then an emit. But this is probably just a confused state of my thinking process and just where I am on the subject as I lean one way and another keeping an open mind of ponder.

thank you for the link too, I have so much reading to do and never it seems enough time to do it. Vincent, Dave, Greg ...and now more lol. Kind regards all... if my posts are further apart you know what i will be doing .. now if i can just find my glasses .. Graham.

[AntonioLao]

a state of where the particle has two poles

This is similar to the 2 states of spin or the magnetic moment or helicity.

[G_burnett]

This is similar to the 2 states of spin or the magnetic moment or helicity.

the fluid mechanical definition is maybe better to look at, first. The transient particle form moving in paralell is helic. Clockwise or counter clockwise give positive or negative value ...

ahhh but there is a point of view factor .... you view from ahead of the event.

what are we doing in the sodium chamber? .. looking from behind. ... the positron was in helic advance ... of the smashing event.

the electron or negative charge being in transient form of the proton was a need of the form to be transient form and calculatable in a linear frame drag to be behind the positron.

the composite shape of the proton before the event.? IMHO

3. then the magnetic helic efffect applied to the stream is the cause of the electron nature speeding it up ... then there is the plasma fusion event to look at for more support. g