Resting Light Theory

[Wick]

Yes ... I understand this.

But I think that Wick, (and Fritz-Albert Popp) are implying that 'biophotons' are, or contain the dormant seed of consciousness.

Only Wick is guilty of implying that biophotons contain the dormant seed of consciousness. Popp is a much better scientist than I am. He doesn't jump to conclusions. He describes his observations and tries to explain his observations within a quantum mechanics context. Let's not give him a bad name based upon my ravings.

As for me, I have nothing to loose. I'm not a scientist. I have no reputation to defend.

But that said let's be clear. All photons are not created equal. Photons may all appear to travel at the curious velocity "c" but that is where their commonality ends. The effects of a radio signal are completely different and distinct from the effects of the burrowing power of the x-ray. Microwaves have a completely different function from gamma rays. All species of electromagnetic energy are indeed forms of light, but they really should be thought of as different species. They all exist in the electromagnetic spectrum, but they are not the least bit similar in how they effect the natural world through which they pass. It is dangerous to think that all light is the same. To think in this way could result in a life or death mistake.

Furthermore, light can come to us in different ways. It can be defuse, coherent, or polarized (just a few examples).

The light that Popp describes as biophotons is a very specific kind of light. It exists in the visible spectrum (a very narrow band of the overall EM spectrum). It is extremely low level light. The photons are emitted in a very controlled manner, one (or a few) photon's at a time. The light is coherent...and that is perhaps one of the most dramatic properties of this species of light. It is self-interfering. It is self-organizing. I am not talking about disorganized light (infrared) indicative of biological process. Such light is a waste byproduct and lacks the kind of organization seen in biophotons.

Stars do not produce biophotons. To the best of our knowlege, biophotons are only found in living systems.

I believe that this biophotonic field (extremely low level, but highly organized light) is the regulatory power associated with each organism and the organizing principle each organism uses to form its matter-based systems. I also suspect that the biophotonic field may well predate the organism it causes to come into being. We can't blame this supposition of mine on Popp.

Apologies Wick, if I'm reading you incorrectly.

I don't think you misread me. But I don't think I've made my point on this matter as yet. I'll keep trying.

Wick

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Stars do not produce biophotons. To the best of our knowlege, biophotons are only found in living systems.

I believe that this biophotonic field (extremely low level, but highly organized light) is the regulatory power associated with each organism and the organizing principle each organism uses to form its matter-based systems. I also suspect that the biophotonic field may well predate the organism it causes to come into being. We can't blame this supposition of mine on Popp. Wick

Hi Wick, you have made a very important point here I had over-looked in my own theorizing. Photons emitted from all bio-structures would be of different frequencies/wave lengths and strengths, due to the fact of being slowed, as the first geo-source photons enter bio-mass, thus would be required to exit at entirely new wave lengths than exist in the geo-structures.

At the same time, and though we would have an entirely new class of emissions, I see the initial source of all photons as being from the greater universal sources, with no possible way of having bio-information until complexity of the geo-structures evolved liquids, soups, chemicals, etc., to produce bio-structures to house and build neural systems, minds, etc...

But bio-photonic emissions of bio-structures is something entirely new in bio-physics, I do believe, unless Popp has explored this perspective already. Just checked the science research, and found it's been explored, but the proof is so far impossible, due to the noise of the greater photon/em-field/s existing. This still doesn't eliminate the fact, it must exist by the logic involved, of__all photons are known to slow in soft tissue matter__cells must divide and grow__there must be something added to the system__the only thing I know which is added is photons cloning photons into new cell structures, to build cell growth__thus, if emissions could ever be separated from the noise, this figure of total emissions should be less than what enters the bio-organism, due to what amount would be required to remain for cell building_that being the difference of, staying within the organism_and what exits. This is an area I've been theorizing about over the last couple of years. The logic is certainly scientific, it's just the evidence seems lost in the noise, until we can build better separation-detection equipment. Very interesting area though__as it's that magic key of life's cell-growth mystery, since fermions are not allowed to clone, that only leaves bosons cloning abilities to divide/clone and build new living atomic structured cells...rrr

Hope that helps,
regards,

[Wick]

But bio-photonic emissions of bio-structures is something entirely new in bio-physics, I do believe, unless Popp has explored this perspective already. Just checked the science research, and found it's been explored, but the proof is so far impossible, due to the noise of the greater photon/em-field/s existing.

Actually, Popp and his colleagues have found ways to detect these extremely dim fields. I have read about some of their work and have seen a few pictures. I don't know how Popp et al. isolate the light, but they have managed it. The technical details evade me.

Regards!

Wick

[Wick]

What I'm trying to say is that space is also textured. What's more the texture of space bends space along the w axis. The expansion of space is directly associated with bending into this w axis.

Finally, if space can become textured along the w axis, it can also move (as a whole) along the w-axis. I'm not talking about a mathematical abstraction here. I'm suggesting that the w-axis is real and that the universe bends into and moves along that extra degree of freedom.

There is every indication through observation and experiment that gravity and time are intricately linked. Study of atomic clocks on satellites in orbit, for instance, seems to indicate that the changes we associate with time here on earth occur more slowly the further one gets from earth. In other words, changes or cycles associated with elements at the quantum level proceed more and more slowly the further an element (say caesium) gets from a gravitational source.

But similar experiments would seem to indicate that in areas where space is "stretched" due to gravity, it takes longer for objects to move from point "a" to point "b".

Both of these puzzling facts would seem to confirm general relativity...but that is only true if we assume the existence of an actual special dimension called time. The existence of this dimension cannot be proved. It can only be assumed.

A different assumption would be that there is no special dimension of time...but rather that space LITERALLY stretches along a very normal (and no special) axis "w". Because space stretches along the axis "w" caesium clocks slow down and satellites speed up where space is less stretched. Nature would seem to indicate that there is indeed another dimension.

I merely argue that it is not special...but rather that it is spatial.

Does this make sense, Greg?

Wick

[Wick]

The bending of space along the "w" axis occurs on the large scale and macroscopically under the influence of the "gravitational force". Space bends on a smaller scale and microscopically under the influence of the "electromagnetic force".

Large-scale bending results in a universal landscape--a 3-dimensional surface that, while changing, alters slowly over time. Small-scale bending of space changes constantly, like ripples upon the 3-d surface during a rainstorm.

In both cases, space is changing shape...only the scale and frequency of oscillation are different. Furthermore, gravitational effects are generated by standing waves in space, while electromagnetic effect are generated by traveling waves. Spinor fields are localized waves (ripples) associated with matter that floats upon the 3-dimensional surface.

This is perhaps a refinement of much of what I have written heretofore.

Hope it helps.

Wick

[Wick]

In other words, gravitational effects provide space with gross shape and structure. Electromagnetic effects provide space with detailed shape and structure.

Wick

[Graybeard]

A different assumption would be that there is no special dimension of time...but rather that space LITERALLY stretches along a very normal (and no special) axis "w". Because space stretches along the axis "w" caesium clocks slow down and satellites speed up where space is less stretched. Nature would seem to indicate that there is indeed another dimension.

I merely argue that it is not special...but rather that it is spatial.

Does this make sense, Greg?

Wick

Ummmmm .... no .. not really ..... I have difficulty seeing 3D ... because to me they are just the 3 measurements at 90 deg to each other. .... I can't see how a 4th could occur ... except as a measurement.

I can understand 'time', because some change has occured in those measurements.

To make it simpler, how do you propose that the 'time' that has elapsed between your last post and this post can be deduced by measuring along a fourth axis 'W'

cool bananas ... greg

[Wick]

To make it simpler, how do you propose that the 'time' that has elapsed between your last post and this post can be deduced by measuring along a fourth axis 'W'

You're making me work hard, Greg. That's good.

Let me, use a 3-d example first and then I'll try to convert the same example into a 4-d.

Let's say you're traveling down the road in a vehicle of your choice at the speed of light. As you move down the road, things are happening in your car. The air conditioner is on and is blowing dust particles about, the radio is going, which fill the air with sound waves, you're scratching your beard, which is causing small flakes of dry skin to go catapulting about the car. The scene I'm trying to create is one of great activity, even if the activity is only occuring at a microscopic level.

For all intents and purposes, the activity inside the car is occuring as if the car were at rest...but the car is in fact moving. We could better understand the relationship of the activity going on inside the car with respect to the environment outside the car by subdividing the space inside the car into a 3d gridwork, such that every point of space in the car has a specific coordinate associated with it.

I can now label every particle in the car and I can specifically assign coordinates to each labeled particle. I can say that particle A is located at coordinates x1/y1/z1. Particle B is located at coordinates x2/y2/z2....and so on until every particle has a specific coordinate location inside the car. By so doing, I can maintain an exact record of the configuration of every particle in the car at any given moment.

The question then becomes, how do I measure moments?

We usually defer to the time dimension which would afford each configuration of the particles inside the car a t1, t2, t3, etc. coordinate.

But since the car is moving, I have another option. Because I consider the coordinates inside the car as being at rest even though the car is moving, I have another set of coordinates (associateed with the direction of the car) which I can leverage.

These coordinates will be completely different from the ones inside the car, because the car's coordinates are rightly or wrongly considered resting coordinates but the forward-at-the-speed-of-light motion of the car gives me another coordinate which I will call w. The w coordinate remains completely linear in nature because of the rate of speed associated with the car. If the car were going slower than "c" there would be the possibility of introducing more coordinates than just one (which would complicate things).

So now every particle in the car has a w/x/y/z coordinate. The first coordinate is the particle's placement with relation to the car's linear forward motion at the speed of light. The remaining 3 coordinates are the coordinates strictly associated with the car's internal coordinates which are considered at rest.

Now to answer your question...we need not even invoke 4 space at this point.

If we consider the universe as a closed, yet moving system, the immensity of the vehicle in which we travel would make it night unto impossible for us to see the "windshield" and thereby discern that we are moving.

Let's then imagine the universe moving through a greater 3-space which remains unseen (much as the dimension of time is unseen). The universe is moving at the velocity "c", or in other words its motion is completely linear. This means that every coordinate (every point) in the universe moves in a completely linear way.

The result is that each particle in the universe maintains and x/y/z coordinate related with its position inside the universe, but it also has a w coordinate associated with its linear progression through the greater 3-space at the velocity "c".

Using this kind of tactic, we can avoid Minkowski space completely. And this would work for us if there were not evidence that space actually stretches along a 4th axis...that under certain circumstances, space takes longer to traverse than would make sense in an "unstretched", perfectly 3d universe.

Does this make sense so far...or have I missed the mark again? Please let me know before I continue.

Wick

[labelwench]

That was exhausting, Wick, plotting all of those points in your example, lol. Did you sautee up one of those 4-D mushrooms by mistake?

For myself, I can only comment, that working graveyards for over four years has certainly changed my experiencing of time, and from conversation with my contemporaries, this phenomenon is not exclusive to me. It certainly has been an interesting 'who am I, what am I, where am I, when am I,' and does it matter?, kind of journey....

Regards,

Lorrina

[Wick]

4D mushrooms are much to fillling for my taste!!

Or are they?

If matter and light and space are really 4D in nature, then perhaps every mushroom I eat is also 4D in nature.

I take it back.

I did eat a 4D mushroom and it was 4D-liscious!

Wick