spin fusion

[Lloyd Gillespie]

IMO, to increase the probability of double intrinsic spins pointing in the same directions for cold fusion is simply to invoke the quantum vacuum fluctuations of squares of zero-point energies. This idea is equivalent to making virtual particles into real particles and maintaining positively useful energy values. Since vacuum energy is considered limitless it is worth our intelligent efforts to make this workable. The idea is not to increase the spin of one virtual particle but to align an almost infinite collection of them in the same direction. Cold fusion is not derived from a theory of random collision but a theory of alignment of positive energy directions.

Yeah Antonio, a few years back I had a conversation with a physicist friend of mine about this very subject. I think I mentioned some of it to you once before, about directing the natural em-vacuum field's energy into a specially designed collector. We threw around many ideas, physical technological experiments and all, but I think we settled on magnetic field containment, but really couldn't take it any further than the largest magnetic field containment multiple laser project that's now trying to achieve this process. It's the one that's done experiments on achieving fusion with gold pellets, at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, which just last year fired up... If they can't do it, with millions of dollars__how can we...? LINK... Now, of course this ain't cold fusion, the way the Universe does it, but we ain't got the Universe's hydrodynamic resources either...

You haven't listed a single experimental model you're working on yet__so where is it...??? You mentioned about lasers within the e-mails to the NASA scientist, but for what experiment...???

"alignment of positive energy directions" HOW...??? The only way I know of aligning a scalar wave is through a cycloidic shaping and controlling super-magnetic field__even then__is it possible...??? I think it's easier to copy what LLNL is attempting, but they haven't been very successful__yet... Imo, the energy is there, but any discrete volume of it doesn't have much energy__it takes cubic miles of it to have any useful energy potential, then to build real mass structures__billions of cubic miles of it... That's my feelings on any possible vacuum energy__to me, it's energy concentration potential is just too thin to even be worth thinking about... You know me, I don't accept any of this emergence or creation energy, what-ever-you-call-it... Space to me is just thinned density matter with real highly dispersed mass__the absolute fundamental substance everything's made of... That's what the modal logic necessity state tells me__due to the laws of angular momentum and the rest of the symmetry requirements of the laws of conservation and all the others of physics requirements...

Personally Antonio, I don't think there's anything there__where you are looking. Maybe if you were looking to split the centers' contents of protons, then that may be a different story__but that's hot fission and fusion__super-bomb material ideas__Like enough to split the Earth open... Most don't realize we only achieve about 7% efficiency, even from hydrogen bombs...

[AntonioLao]

The only physical idea relating to the experimental demonstration of cold fusion is the alignment of the tranverse spin directions of virtual photons. Within a cubic femtometer there are an infinitely countable number of virtual photons. In addition to their parallel and antiparallel spins which normally cancelled out, there are the tranverse quantum spin states that also probably cancelled out. However, polarization of EM waves is possible by the presence of strong magnetic field. Therefore, there must exists certain magnetic field configuration that will enhance the physical presence of the tranverse quantum state of photon spin such that their polarized spin energies can be added together.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

That's what they already do with lasers Antonio__highly concentrated energy lasers__so I don't really see what you want to do...

Sure, it's limitless, but the energy to gather and or concentrate it so far, hasn't been too efficient__all the many different types of solar solutions are at most about 3 to 5% efficient__and so far, it's a no go status with the big fusion machines...

And as to any type of virtual particles creations or annialations, I don't accept any of that physics as valid, as it violates the conservation laws, imo...

I see all the Universe and QM as real particle structures and real particle-waves...

There's absolutely no hocus-pocus on my end of the science spectrum...

If you have some idea of what you're really trying to say, you'll have to state it in real model form, for me to understand it...

[AntonioLao]

The idea is to align the spin of quarks, gluons, electrons, photons, etc. using very special configuration of strong magnetic field. Nobody has come close except the design of the Penning trap.

[spacedout]

Lloyd --if all the energy in the universe in a time-line x,y,z stepped aether and a quantum step in one of the three directions happens each cycle-time in which zillions upon zillions of steps are in a cycle and all those steps are relocated a step in time every cycle-time its not hard to understand how virtual paticle can come and go -- all the energy is in the aether.

Evidence shows that virtual particles do exist for physics and math to preform properly. If our universe is a looped x,y,z stepped system that recycles on and on, the aether path would vibrate and when the vibrations align into a wave a pressure and vacuum crossed chain wave packet would form (this is a conversion of random into linear by probability) and if the core of quarks and leptons are cubes then under probable conditions the core can occur by chance and fail to materialize and fade back into the aether. I know your logic BS + BS = BS and BS on and on. This is absolutely true about this type of thinking but what if it is true -- and it is more logical to thind that we live in a stepped time-line continuum as composed of an Einstein continuum. Answeres evolve naturally in quantum theory of 3 dimensional steps.

I commend you for you expertise and wish you well -- we need a deep discussion on reality.

[MJA]

The foundations of physics is no stronger than its structure, and with a theoretical huff and a puff it will surely cumble away.
Perhaps next time the scientist will build their sciences on truth.

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[Lloyd Gillespie]

The foundations of physics is no stronger than its structure, and with a theoretical huff and a puff it will surely cumble away.
Perhaps next time the scientist will build their sciences on truth.

=

Dumpty, Humpty Mja,
Sat on a wall,
Dumpty, Humpty Mja,
Had a great fall...

All the crooks horses,
And all the crooks men,
Couldn't put Dumpty Humpty Mja,
Back together, again...

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Lloyd --if all the energy in the universe in a time-line x,y,z stepped aether and a quantum step in one of the three directions happens each cycle-time in which zillions upon zillions of steps are in a cycle and all those steps are relocated a step in time every cycle-time its not hard to understand how virtual paticle can come and go -- all the energy is in the aether.

Yeah, my only point is they are real particle-waves__not virtuals...

Evidence shows that virtual particles do exist for physics and math to preform properly.

I have no interest in designing models to fit math. Math must fit the real models of physics__not the metaphysical virtuals...

If our universe is a looped x,y,z stepped system that recycles on and on, the aether path would vibrate and when the vibrations align into a wave a pressure and vacuum crossed chain wave packet would form (this is a conversion of random into linear by probability) and if the core of quarks and leptons are cubes then under probable conditions the core can occur by chance and fail to materialize and fade back into the aether.

Why would any angular momentum form in cubes, at the aether stages__later complex high mass particle states, yes__but not in the vacuum aether... I realize many crystal structures form here on earth, but the vacuum only has remnants of such. Vacuum itself is a smooth angular flow, and back to linear__on, and on, and on__em-center to em-center of centers+... My words only apply to em-micro black holes and back to the em-aether... Real em-FS-mass vacuum...

I know your logic BS + BS = BS and BS on and on. This is absolutely true about this type of thinking but what if it is true -- and it is more logical to think that we live in a stepped time-line continuum as composed of an Einstein continuum. Answeres evolve naturally in quantum theory of 3 dimensional steps.

I commend you for you expertise and wish you well -- we need a deep discussion on reality.

I don't see anything absolutely wrong with your logic__It's just I prefer it to be in real FS terms. Years ago I described it all as the tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom decay model__it's just no one has taken the time to absolutely describe the quantization mechanics of the em-aether vacuum, as a real model mechanics. I advocate we do, instead of leaving QM as a simple metaphysical probability math model... Let's build a robust enough model, that actually may be a possible and necessary model of real Universal quantumization mechanics...

Isn't that somewhat, what I stated here...???

Let me show a model I use of wave propagation and possible condensation__Which also applies to your spin fusion, Antonio. I can represent it as this simple line diagram: --> c <-->O<--> c <-- = 2c linear to cycloidic energy concentration of wave propagation at (O), and condensation, iff phase state temperature is low enough, for spin-fusion... This is a model I first envisioned back in the `80's, where two waves traveling toward each other have a group velocity of 2c. Since then I've theorized these two wave center collisions being required to cycloidically spin up to higher spin rates upon meeting, thus storing the energy for the wave propagation force vector going forward. If we just consider how a long radio wave acts upon entering Earth's higher density atmosphere, we'd realize Archimedes' cycloid motion is required to be part of the wave motion of such angular momentum law__due to the fact the back end of the long wave is catching up to the front end of the wave as it enters the higher density atmosphere, thus requiring the cycloidic angular motion of forces and resistances involved to spin faster, and form toward a smaller centered wave signature. Therefore; all waves approaching each other at group 2c would function the same at wave centers of oscillations, especially considering that many wave centers may be super-positioning from many directions at once__there seems to be plenty of wave storage energy in such a process for wave propagation to continue indefinitely. Now, many visualize this process as electrons__but, electrons can not occupy the same wave centers, due to the Pauli exclusion principle, therefore, I've always visualized the em-field as a photon field, except where other particles and isotopes of, exist. Imo, this is the complex multiple process of variable photon spin states, that actually fused in the early Universe__when temperatures were much nearer absolute zero k__and can also act as gravity waves, by having different and varying spin states__within the overall propagation of photons, from larger centers of mass, out and back in... These ideas are not my own only, as I've come across many others' models of similar mechanics...

If such mechanics are feasible and true, we still seem to have no way of detecting such motions, as photons only give our sensors what seems to be a pointed vector state__but, in reality could just as easily be only the center of said wave's greater state angular momentum's scalar area and motion signature... In other words, the wave may be collapsing into our sensors, giving us false vector directional readings, as we know no matter where we place our sensors, we get similar readings, unless special experiments, like Feynman's glass layers are set up, then his probabilities of arrows maths are used__still a very crude way of measuring wave position and motion realities, imo. With all our present best sensor technologies, we still have trouble measuring these hyper-fine structures of wave motions, because they send their signals in all directions at once, as scalar waves__so, all we have at the hyper-fine structure levels is possibility and probability models, of which this is just another__though one that possibly offers a gravity wave of variable spin states that just may be possible and true... Then, by theorizing the protons' possible higher spin states of the incoming photons' masses within, splitting these masses into finer masses, and spinning them to much higher spin states__and then possibly radiating them as the gravitons, which are only smaller mass photons, with much higher spin states__just may give us our first glimpse of a gravity mechanics__of less effecting masses leaving than entering, until say a huge gravity source such as Jupiter comes along, and changes the mechanics balance of all these photon spin states, and hyper-fine cycloidic motions__in both directions...

Just another model, to play with__but, it'll take a 4D quaternion geometric logic to see it__That's a(simplest form) three vectors of particle-wave motions and one of time/delayed distance particle-wave motions, at the centers of all oscillations/harmonics... To me, it's always a dynamic hydrodynamic mechanics__pushed from the outside group velocities__In_then Out__just as my simple line diagram shows...!!!

[AntonioLao]

I'm hoping all our good intentions explaining our own personal theories can help future generations find the limitless source of useful energy and slow down the increase of entropy which ideally must be stopped for everlasting life to exist.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

I've talked to many old men, in the many campground bars I've stayed in about living forever__I'm yet to meet one who wants to live forever. They've all told me they've lived a good long life, and if cursed with eternal life__they'd be so bored__they didn't even want to contemplate it...

"Eternal life?__maybe for someone else__not me..."

These were all conversations with men over 75, and some as old as 92...

I'm only 65, and I certainly have no desire for eternal life__cash this body out when the pain exceeds the fun...