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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

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    Do you know if there is a genuine analogy in the anterior and posterior (rather than left and right hemisphere) functional context?
    --- not convincing yet (still thinking) ---
    the big three are dopamine, serotonin (shown below)
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    noradrenaline.

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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

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    We are THE no-thing...
    that's a real big idea.

    I'm off to wrestle Brahman with Atman and see who emerges victorious.
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

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    While there are currently the chosen few working on the details of a NWO, how does the overwhelming perponderance of humankind manage to be heard, let alone ensure that their concerns are addressed? It's clear that anyone who seeks power is self-serving and therefore incapable of integrity or truth...hence, "we get what we deserve." Even if governments were rendered obsolete and replaced by administrative services enacting the will of the people, compliant behaviour must be voluntary, for the system to work.
    You know -
    - I agree with pretty much everything you write.



    so (as ever) - exactly (to the above paragraph) -
    - I absolutely agree.
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    Hi, All.

    Language is a manifestation of the mind. Communication is innate, not just to the conscious mind, but also to the sub-conscious mind. It is born of and delivered by electromagnetic or vibratory activity.

    Dr Hans Jenny published "Cymatics - The Structure and Dynamics of Waves and Vibrations" in 1967. In this book he showed what happens when various materials are placed on vibrating metal plates and membranes. What appeared were shapes and motion-patterns which varied from the stationary (nearly perfectly ordered) to those in constant motion (turbulently developing and organic).

    To carry out his research, Jenny invented the tonoscope which utilized crystal oscillators to set these plates and membranes vibrating - crystal oscillators allow the exact determination of desired frequency and amplitude/volume. This enabled his research to follow a continuous train of events. The tonoscope has the capacity to make the human voice visible, by directly providing a physical image of the vowel, tone or song a human being produced (i.e. a melody could not only be heard, but also seen).

    Jenny christened this new field of research "cymatics," which comes from the Greek kyma: wave. Cymatics could be defined as: "the study of how vibrations, in the broad sense, generate and influence patterns, shapes and moving processes." By vibrating a plate at a specific frequency and amplitude (vibration), the shapes and motion-patterns characteristic of that vibration appeared in the material on the plate. Changing the frequency or amplitude, changed the development and pattern. If the frequency was increased, the complexity of the patterns increased - the number of elements became greater. Correspondingly, by increasing the amplitude, the motions increased in rapidity and turbulence, even creating small eruptions, where the actual material used (sand, spores, iron filings, water, or viscous substances), was tossed into the air.

    During the course of his research with the tonoscope, Jenny noticed that pronouncing the vowels of the ancient languages of Hebrew and Sanskrit, caused the sand to take the shape of the written symbols for these vowels, whilst modern languages failed to generate a similar effect!

    A further phenomenon was observed whereby, when a vibrating plate covered with liquid was tilted, the liquid did not flow downwards but stayed on the plate, constructing new shapes as though nothing had happened. If, however, the oscillation was turned off, the liquid began to run under gravitational influence, but this could be reversed by quickly resuming vibration, the liquid resuming its place on the plate. Jenny accorded this as an example of an antigravitational effect created by vibrations.

    He also observed the resemblance between the shapes and patterns we see around us in physical reality and the shapes and patterns he generated in his investgations and, as a result, was convinced that biological evolution was a result of vibrations, and that their nature determined the ultimate outcome.

    In the closing chapter of the book Cymatics, Jenny sums up these phenomena in a three-part unity. The fundamental and generative power is in the vibration which, with its periodicity, sustains phenomena with its two poles. At one pole we have form, the figurative pattern. At the other is motion, the dynamic process. These three fields - vibration and periodicity as the ground field, and form and motion as the two poles - constitute an indivisible whole, Jenny says, even though one can dominate sometimes.

    According to another researcher in the field, John Beaulieu, "There is a similarity between cymatic pictures and quantum particles. In both cases that which appears to be a solid form is also a wave. They are both created and simultaneously organized by the principle of pulse. This is the great mystery with sound: there is no solidity! A form that appears solid is actually created by a underlying vibration." It is this dualism between wave and form, that physics attempts to explain with quantum field theory, in which the quantum field (the vibration), is understood as the one true reality, and the particle or form, and the wave or motion, are only two polar manifestations of the one reality, vibration.

    In summation, there is evidence of a fundamental source which generates the vibratory creational (gravitational) wave. This wave exhibits the polar opposites of frequency and its tendency toward eqilibrium or static behaviour (an ordering/patterning/aggregating effect) and amplitude and its tendency toward animation/motion (a disseminating/chaotic/repelling effect). Furthermore, it's postulated that Earth and all who sail on her are the result of an unlikely event: the various apsects of vibratory waves coming into phase for a brief moment in time...
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    Excellent post.

    Really does make sense.

    ... ... for a brief moment in time
    ... ... where time has no particular meaning -
    and so a brief moment might represent 20,30,40 billion years? (maybe)

    (- by that I mean that
    - time gains its meaning from relative context alone.)

    The images in your post represent the words which the image of a projector projecting our reality -
    (- from earlier in this thread -)
    - was attempting to be pointed towards.

    The words (which I didn't use) -
    which might have accompanied that image
    could have gone something like -

    a still lake for a while
    - with lonesome ripple
    ... ... growing stronger
    ... and stronger
    and more numerous
    - developing shapes -
    from within

    arising out from the lake -
    a sword,
    arm, person, scene

    - camera, lights, action

    --- we begin ---

    (again)
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

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    Greek kyma: wave
    kyma - karma ?

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    During the course of his research with the tonoscope, Jenny noticed that pronouncing the vowels of the ancient languages of Hebrew and Sanskrit, caused the sand to take the shape of the written symbols for these vowels, whilst modern languages failed to generate a similar effect!
    om [ohhmmm]
    jahweh [yaaaarwaiyyyy]

    amen [aaaar mmm en] ?
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    Quote Originally Posted by Leskey
    A form that appears solid is actually created by a underlying vibration.
    Resonant transfer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leskey
    If the frequency was increased, the complexity of the patterns increased - the number of elements became greater. Correspondingly, by increasing the amplitude, the motions increased in rapidity and turbulence, even creating small eruptions, where the actual material used (sand, spores, iron filings, water, or viscous substances), was tossed into the air.
    Evolution needs to be measured (to prevent instability in structural integrity
    - the product of evolution being shaken apart) -

    Evolution needs to be measured
    structures* must (accordingly) evolve in an orderly manner -
    - to permit those structures to draw upon an 'unlimited' energetic (the 'unlimited' energetic) source
    sustainably
    - for {theirs,ours,its}* net benefit.

    The drive 'to evolve' is our motivation
    - to realise evolutionary speciation event to better -
    we need 'follow the rules' -
    - where to 'follow the rules' is to counter the legacy instincts of our (any structures) immediately previous instantiation
    - to counter the legacy instinct(s) of our evolutionary past.

    ~*~

    In our case -
    - this reflects loss of the physical power hierarchy -
    of one animal over another -
    and replacement of the physical hierarchy with a logical hierarchy -
    a copy of the collective mind
    within each individual
    (through learning) -

    - since evolution to complexity is entirely analogous to the difference in context between a tree in isolation -
    - and that exact same tree within a rain forest
    (its crown forming part of the rain forest canopy).

    The 'same' tree will experience a markedly different context in the two cases -
    and since these two identical individual trees will not have had the experience of both environmental contexts (because of time taken) -

    - the individual tree will (through only being granted its own perspective)
    reply -
    when asked -
    - that -
    its feelings are its own -
    and not the result of environmental context.

    To differentiate between the feelings of the isolated tree and tree in group context
    - one needs take the meta-perspective -

    to be able to talk to the group
    (the collective) -
    'to speak for the trees and not any one specific tree'
    a single voice which speaks
    not for the individual in any context

    but for the collective.

    The voice of the collective.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lorax
    I speak for the trees, for the trees have no voice.
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    Hi, SB.

    That voice has always been there...we've chosen not to listen, with the inevitable result: the impression we're alone in a desert and not a part of a forest.
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

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    Hi, SB.

    That voice has always been there...we've chosen not to listen, with the inevitable result: the impression we're alone in a desert and not a part of a forest.
    It's the voice inside of our heads when we think, isn't it?

    An animal lives in first person perspective (in real time) -
    we can switch between first person and third person.

    Third person -
    when we think.

    First person -
    when we're about to be involved in an accident and our mind 'disconnects' so that we can react without the time delay which mind necessitates.
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    Quote Originally Posted by leskey View Post
    Hi, SB.

    That voice has always been there...we've chosen not to listen, with the inevitable result: the impression we're alone in a desert and not a part of a forest.
    ---ps---
    I think that your observation along with my previous post are the reason why I don't talk (use my voice) -

    - I think that the voice forces us into 'animal mode'
    - which is, of course ~fine~ for animals -
    but not for man -

    since we're capable of better.

    Writing - as opposed to Speaking (with our voices) -
    allows us to divorce ourselves away from 'real time' behaviour -
    - our evolution has taken us into a new scale for 'real-time'
    - one in which 'real time' has (in effect (slowed) -
    where that's a good thing -

    - and to express the increased complexity of our mind
    (over the animal within's less complex view of reality)
    - in our own time

    - using the voice (inner voice, voice within our heads) as guiding light.

    ~*~

    This idea explains away the common tendency within monastery
    for monks to be prevented from use of their voice -

    use of one's spoken voice (barking out orders (for example) as the most common usage for the voice)
    -- actually --
    takes us away from 'God'.

    Too funny; reality (the world around us) makes (all of it) complete sense.

    ~*~

    aaaaaarmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    exhale [exhalation held ... ... ...
    ---------------------------------------

    mmmmmmen|..........|aaaaaa...
    ... ...
    |breathe in|exhale...

    ~*~

    Talking (with our voices) supports corrupt behaviour -
    the reason also why good people (for instance Prince Charles) -
    take such a long time to speak.

    I betcha' he's rather special with the written word though.

    anyway ... ... ...
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