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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    Absolutely to ~all~ of the above adding only that (and as you :- )
    know)
    - your ideas are provably correct.

    'Provably' relating to 'within' a single unified model which scales from ToE -
    - which envelops all aspects of our reality -
    - and which clarifies (at this point in our evolutionary trajectory)

    our key uncertainties.

    ~*~

    Perfect overlap with crisp edges rendering our presentations indistinguishable from one another -
    - meaning
    :- )
    --- convergence ---
    - the logical end-point in evolutionary procession through lush green geometry_s.

    Quote Originally Posted by leskey View Post
    ... ... a lack of personal responsibility and integrity are the culprits.

    ... ... the answer [is] simple [and] is also innate logic.

    There is no other solution other than to be voluntarily* motivated by selfless love.
    voluntarily* - I'd need to ask if one needs to be driven close to insanity by the pointlessness of competition before one slips voluntarily* into this state of mind.
    The fall into the state of mind you describe feels like the end of the movie 'lawnmower man' -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doAnB5_eDnw
    6:50 - 7:30 (just 40 seconds
    - where the lawnmower man is playing our evolutionary past fighting 'dirty' for its own selfish survival)
    (the imagery of the crucifixion a little earlier on in that video is interesting
    :- )
    also)

    - where the bad guy (the part of us which we need to kill - though still part of us -
    - reaches around (ever faster) for a way out of the trap which he's been dropped into) -
    - not pleasant (because (as it's happening)
    - he's still a part of us ).

    Quote Originally Posted by leskey View Post
    There is no other solution other than to be voluntarily* motivated by selfless love. The opposite ... incite[s] fear ... ...
    Quote Originally Posted by leskey View Post
    This is why humanity has always acknowledged** the need to defer to the laws of a higher power:

    ... ... the higher power comes with the necessary, positive and negative simulii (consequences) , required to mould human behaviour.

    The problem always arises in the power-grab between the higher power and the people.

    In many aspects of Western society, it's time to cut out the middle-men.

    ... ...all people innately acknowledge harmony as the ideal state...albeit an elusive one.

    Harmony - silence
    always acknowledged** - Implicitly
    and
    without an understanding of how one should express that deference.

    The need to defer is taken advantage of by people
    (inadvertently) - into supporting corrupt physical power structures which they themselves lead.

    The need to defer is taken advantage of by people
    (inadvertently) - into supporting corrupt physical power structures which they themselves lead
    because it works.

    People take up positions of power and others fall in line.

    These mini-power structures, however, merge.

    The net transition over human history has been towards globalization -
    - local Empires which have grown by war
    or
    through strategic marriage.

    Emperor 1 -> people
    +
    Emperor 2 -> people

    ~etc~

    until there is only 1 Emperor and 1 people -
    1 people under 'God'.

    At that point we'll have reached the place which we're at
    today -
    - at convergence.

    Quote Originally Posted by leskey View Post
    This is why humanity has always acknowledged** the need to defer to the laws of a higher power:
    'we're at today -
    - at convergence'

    one~people under one~God

    :- )


    one~World

    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    ... ... ... or more succinctly ... ... ...

    ;
    o )

    'i agree'
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    At birth we have a series of shapes and their complementary spaces -

    ~~learning~~ results in those shapes being rattled around (within our minds)
    - under motivation (learning) of reaching {our self,our mind,our electrical circuit} the energetically favourable state of ...

    - the energetically favourable state of shapes
    (each) descending into their single specific allocated space ...

    - with those which fall into their complementary space subsequently
    ~remaining~
    there.

    ... .... and so as we learn
    - shapes fall and fix in place -
    and with each shape which fixes in place -
    we understand a little more of our shared context (the World around)

    until

    ~silence~

    when the shapes're *all* fixed in place -
    (and the rattle ceases)

    ~silence~
    when the pieces ... ... just... ...
    'fit'

    ~silence~
    ::synonym:: Harmony

    ~silence~
    representing the end-point of a process which reveals our
    Quote Originally Posted by Leskey
    'innate understanding of everything'
    A ~silence~ which accompanies a loss in unconscious motivations over the rational mind -
    - which signifies we have sufficient control to master our own destiny
    - which reveals the flaw within man which we were not able to see -
    which dictated policies until

    dyed sun within sight
    (a brand new day)
    ~where~
    died $in within ... ... ... see ?
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    SB_UK and Leskey,

    All I can say is thanks! I think I'll be thinking quietly for awhile.

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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    Graybeard can come over as a bit of a monkey sometimes, but i have always been able to see that his heart is in the right place at all times.
    For example i can resonate with his humor and wit, ''just because'' .. although i have no explanation as to why.

    If you give me a banana, I will tell you ....... rotflmao

    cool bananas ... greg
    'Blondie says I must hate all Brunettes. I'll try, but if I can't ... I'll love them both'
    ... graffiti on Tavern wall, Pompeii, circa AD 70.

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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    Quote Originally Posted by racecar View Post
    ... thinking quietly ...
    welcome :- ) to the
    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop Rock,'None shall pass'
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    Quote Originally Posted by leskey View Post
    Words connect to our thoughts, our communities, our emotions, our relationships, and to reality itself. We are verbivores, a species that lives on words...
    ....... it is unlikely that Mayan will remain an isolated way of speech unconnected with any other. We know now that certain tribes in Wyoming speak languages akin to those of others in Panama .........The humble Pah-utes of nevada speak a tongue related to that which the subtle Montezuma used, the one narrow in scope, evolved only to meet the needs of a primitive people ..... the other, sophisticated,a capable instrument for poetry, for an advanced governmental system, and for philosophical speculation.

    Men's thoughts make language and their languages make thought.

    When the matter of the speech of mankind is fully known and laid side by side with all the other knowledges, the Philosophers, the men who stand at the gathering point of science, will have the means to make man understand himself at last.

    Oliver La Farge, Scientists are lonely men, 1942
    'Blondie says I must hate all Brunettes. I'll try, but if I can't ... I'll love them both'
    ... graffiti on Tavern wall, Pompeii, circa AD 70.

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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    ==



    ==



    where



    where
    ________________
    ________________

    - > - > - > - > - > -
    ________________
    ________________

    becomes

    ((((( )))))

    after which



    sound
    (resonant transfer - radiating out from a central channel)

    becomes

    light

    (a recapitulation of the linear motion which was transduced through the pipe by resonant transfer.

    'and then there was light'
    ( -> light -> (((sound))) -> light -> )
    ......God........Mary........Jesus


    The Holy~Trinity~
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    ...will have the means to make man understand himself at last.
    Oliver La Farge, Scientists are lonely men, 1942
    To attain an understanding of our place in time -
    from which our 'God delusion' dies.
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    Re: An innate concept of "everything"

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    If you give me a banana, I will tell you ....... rotflmao

    cool bananas ... greg
    natural woman say here's a banana cheeky boy



    Originally Posted by Graybeard
    ...will have the means to make man understand himself at last.
    Oliver La Farge, Scientists are lonely men, 1942


    it's a lonely place space



 
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