An innate concept of "everything"

[leskey]

The conceptual content behind a language is like a language itself. It represents an analogue reality behind digital word sized units (such as "events"), and it combines them into assemblies with a syntactic structure.

The mind categorises matter into discreet things and continuous stuff, and it similarly categorises time into discreet events and continuous activities. The cognitive zoom lens allows us to count objects or events and allows us to zoom in even closer on what each one is made of; it also allows us to pan out in space and see a collection of objects as an aggregate and allows us to pan out in time and see a collection of events as an iteration.

Language is saturated with implicit metaphors like, events are objects, and time is space. Indeed time turns out to be a conceptual vehicle not just for time but for many kinds of states and circumstances. What does the concreteness of language say about human thought? Does it imply that even our wispiest concepts are represented in the mind as hunks of matter that we move around on a mental stage? Does it say that rival claims about the world can never be true or false but can only be alternative metaphors that frame a situation in different ways?

Words are tied to reality when their meanings depend on a speaker's commitments about the truth. Yet, there is a way in which words are tied to reality even more directly. This is not just about the facts about the world stored in a person's head, but how words are woven into the causal fabric of the world itself - the semantics of words.

The meanings of words are ultimately circular, each defined in terms of the others.

Words connect to our thoughts, our communities, our emotions, our relationships, and to reality itself. We are verbivores, a species that lives on words...

It's the above, quoted from Steven Pinker, that has prompted me to profer a ToE based on an analysis of the meaning of the words used to describe the fundamental force of our existence...

[leskey]

Language infers the following for each of the selected processes:

Process : Electromagnetic Radiation
Property : Ubiquitous/Fundamental
Manifestation : Conjuncture
Motive : Self Propagration
Interpretation : Interaction
Quality : Electromagnetic
Method : Oscillation
Quality : Knowledge/Informaton
Relationship : Godhead/Trinity

Process : Gravitation Wave
Property : Origin/Time
Manifestation : Creation
Motive : Propagation
Interpretation : Ratiate/Shine
Quality : Weak Force
Method : Conjunction/Fluctuation
Quality : Polarization
Relationship : Father

Process : Modulation
Property : Periodic
Manifestation : Data Transmission
Motive : Decode/Deliver
Interpretation : Waveform
Quality : Gravity
Method : Variation
Quality : Temperature/Regulate
Relationship : Holy Spirit

Process : Amplitude
Property : Infinite
Manifestation : Volume/Size
Motive : Purpose
Interpretation : Information
Quality : Gravity
Method : Light
Quality : Intelligence
Relationship : Holy Spirit

Process : Frequecy
Property : Eternal
Manifestation : Energy
Motive : Expession
Interpretation : Environment
Quality : Gravity
Method : Oscillate/Movement
Quality : Pitch
Relationship : Holy Spirit

Process : Phase
Property : Time - Finite
Manifestation : Appearance
Motive : Order/Harmony
Interpretation : Time - Period
Quality : Strong Force
Method : Magnetism
Quality : Life/Observer
Relationship : Son

[austintorn@aol.com]

Pinker is great.

Luckily, English has many synonyms to help some preciseness of our attempted conciseness, but still, down deep, sometimes, there surface wordless thoughts that can only translate as ‘ugh’ or some feeling that some notion feels great or true, again in some vague and uworded speechless way—then we must interpret and even invent the rest of the story as best we can.

Even in poetry, in which we force ourselves to be precise, both to get the message across and due to the constraints of the form, we might only get across a general interpretation of the ‘soul’ feelings. In fact this presentation of all that is possibly not so readily apprehended as truth is the very purpose of poetry. We translate the ‘soul’ thoughts and feelings into words and try to send them forth finely dressed for others to read.

Is this the end of it—the poetic words? Did we really write a successful poem? No, not necessarily, for the poem must induce the reader to then translate the words back to the depths of the soul feelings of its sometimes speechless mode. It is only then that one can say that one has written a total poem, that is, only if the reader’s soul is responsive to it.

Same for prose and posts.

[leskey]

Ugh! Austin, I know that feeling!

I'm reassured that the reader doesn't interpret this concept as "anything great and true," for humility and modesty are its author. Sometimes, the author simply feels the need to let a thought just float around a bit...much like a soul...enjoying it's moment, its freedom of movement...Then there's the soul whose sole purpose it is to find it's mark and make an impression because it doesn't have any belief or faith in its freedom; there's only this moment of opportunity ...

For both the author and the reader, success in only found in perserverence...and for that they must have genuine, but probably very different, motivation.

[melanie]

The meanings of words are ultimately circular, each defined in terms of the others.

This is real, and this is not.

This is true and this is not.

It's all true and it is not.

Is a dream real? It is a real dream.

Is a shadow real? It is a real shadow.

These words appear to something for which I have no words.
Or perhaps 'I' is the word that points to that something?

It is clear, lucid, present and playfully eludes the net of concepts yet it never moves.

'clear, lucid, present' and 'that which never moves' are words that point to the 'real'. Changeless it is.

'Opaque, unknowing, fleeting' and 'that which appears to change'... 'that seems to come and go' are words that point to the 'unreal'.

What is 'real' in itself... wordless is the reply.

What is 'unreal' in itself... wordless is the reply.

Without words, 'unreality' is self evident.

Without words 'reality' is here now and now and now.

Without words, without the knife of duality,
neither reality, nor unreality.

Love is just a word... a symbol.

Whatever has an opposite... is not real.

Love that is the opposite of hate is not real... it is emotion, feeling, thought, desire.

That which is real has no opposite... it is ALL.

The symbol for All is... Love

The DNA Road Home
Twin Strands that Mirror Each Other, Duality, Polarity


"Circle of Infinity, Circle of Simplicity, Circle of Beginnings, Circle of Endings. Emptiness with Fullness, All things visible, All things unseen.
To End and To Begin---the Circle of Life."

[melanie]

"Think of it in terms of vibration.
It's easy to understand that language -- the spoken word -- has a vibration.
Well, written words also have a vibration. Anything in existence has a vibration."


"Beautiful words have beautiful, clear vibrations.
But negative words put out ugly, incoherent vibrations which do not form clusters.
Language is not something artificial, but rather is something that exists naturally.
I believe that language is created by nature."

Masaru Emoto

[Mikal]

Hi Lesk...great TOE presentation here!!

I like how you have presented the Godhead as 3 aspects of Father, Spirit and Son>interaction, knowledge and information.

The Gravitational Wave as the Father or the creative force in nature, the life energy of desire and the source of human striving.

Modulation>Holy Spirit or transmission or expressiveness. The waveform of motion, pulsation, expansion, contraction or flow.

Amplitude>information and intelligence. Could be that expression has its purpose in the realm of emotional sensitivity.

Frequency is energy/pitch/tone or movement through sensitivity of emotional state.

Phase is the Son>time being a duration of life and the physical appearance of the Life-observer...a person, an individual.

Leaves one to ponder whether human desire and emotional sensitivity are the medium for EM and gravitational phenomena and the medium in which light moves. In a sense this is how I see this because we are energy transmitting in varied forms. Take expressiveness for example, it can take the form of verbal language, body language, art, architecture, poetry, music...etc...

It would seem that emotion, volition, sensation, sensitivity and expressiveness must be integral parts of the creative process we call life and existence.....



Mikal

[austintorn@aol.com]

Ugh! Austin, I know that feeling


I suppose, as some say, one side of the brain is the 'speechless' part, its 'ugh' or 'joy' being all it can tell us directly. Perhaps the other side of the brain informs it through the corpus callosum and also gets more info back.

I would ask how a Holy Spirit guy got into the language stuff, but we cover all those kinds of notions a lot elsewhere specifically, so I won't ask.

[leskey]

Hi, All.

Thank you Mel and Mikal for your thoughtful posts.

"Think of it in terms of vibration.

It's easy to understand that language -- the spoken word -- has a vibration.
Well, written words also have a vibration. Anything in existence has a vibration."

"Beautiful words have beautiful, clear vibrations.
But negative words put out ugly, incoherent vibrations which do not form clusters.
Language is not something artificial, but rather is something that exists naturally.
I believe that language is created by nature."
Masaru Emoto

I particularly like this quote, Mel. It's because we are all vibration that I've pondered the descriptions of the vibratory process.

Incoherency, for example means lacking cohesion, yet it also means relating to or composed of waves having a constant difference in phase eg coherent light.

Coherent light is light waves that are monochromatic and in phase in space and time. It could be said that coherency/cohesion is love. Laser light is an example. Laser light is also focussed in a specific direction, depositing a lot of energy in a very small area. Light from light bulbs or the sun, however, is incoherent light (many wavelengths and colours) and scatters in all directions.

So, coherent light is an analogy for the family group.

I like how you have presented the Godhead as 3 aspects of Father, Spirit and Son>interaction, knowledge and information.

The Gravitational Wave as the Father or the creative force in nature, the life energy of desire and the source of human striving.

Modulation>Holy Spirit or transmission or expressiveness. The waveform of motion, pulsation, expansion, contraction or flow.

Amplitude>information and intelligence. Could be that expression has its purpose in the realm of emotional sensitivity.

Frequency is energy/pitch/tone or movement through sensitivity of emotional state.

Phase is the Son>time being a duration of life and the physical appearance of the Life-observer...a person, an individual.

Leaves one to ponder whether human desire and emotional sensitivity are the medium for EM and gravitational phenomena and the medium in which light moves. In a sense this is how I see this because we are energy transmitting in varied forms. Take expressiveness for example, it can take the form of verbal language, body language, art, architecture, poetry, music...etc...

It would seem that emotion, volition, sensation, sensitivity and expressiveness must be integral parts of the creative process we call life and existence....

I agree, Mikal, All unseen vibrations are given creative expression in this medium; so, too, the unseen vibrations of human consciousness enable further creative input.

I would ask how a Holy Spirit guy got into the language stuff, but we cover all those kinds of notions a lot elsewhere specifically, so I won't ask.

Thank you for asking...and not asking, Austin. Little by little this may be explained...

[racecar]

Leskey, wonderful thread.
Quote:
Originally Posted by melanie
It's easy to understand that language -- the spoken word -- has a vibration.
Well, written words also have a vibration. Anything in existence has a vibration."

"Beautiful words have beautiful, clear vibrations.
But negative words put out ugly, incoherent vibrations which do not form clusters.
Language is not something artificial, but rather is something that exists naturally.
I believe that language is created by nature."
Masaru Emoto

How do you know beautiful words from negative words? I understand the vibration part (I think) ...on toe quest there are many misunderstandings based on words. If the vibration is clear it shouldn't matter what the word is...that's partly why it's so hard writing on a forum (for me anyway)...I can't rely solely on words.

thanks