Super simplistic.

[Meem]

I have heard on other forums about a -1 0 +1 concept. My views on this had been established before I read it. I just found several things rather interesting, in how they happened to correlate. The fundamental shape of vision, or image is a dot, pixel. I am working on my education, and trying to further my mathematical vocabulary a bit further, so what I theorize comes from a pretty simple view point.
So, here is my illiterate mathematical stab in the dark.


-/+ movement, function, vibration, amplitude, phase.
. decimal: placement, frame definition, frequency- micro.
0 zero: placement, frame definition, wavelength- macro.

__+1____________________+1
-1_._ +1___Micro-graph___-1_0_+1 Macro-graph
__-1_____________________-1

A point or a zero, large or small spheres on which all value or functions are hinged.

If zero is nothing, why is it "smack" in the middle of everything we chart? It has a value that we can infinitely define further, just like ourselves.

The question I have always had is that a graph only seems to chart space, not time. The graph is 2d when reality is 3d, I've heard topology gets into this concept but have never looked into it. Surface value, 2 dimensions, volume requires 3. The graph should be an angular view in my humble opinion, and should have a 3rd line to represent time in space. Do define a point or origin, one doesn't need a 6 sided box, and a point in the middle, just 3 lines.

Kids should be learning to play Star-Trek chess, after they get the concept of standard chess.
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The sphere or "zero/decimal" has been proven to be very relative in recent lab studies. Take NIF, "a sun laser," utilizing the shape of a sphere to focus many beams into one, and the results seems to indicate that it is possible to get more energy output than input.

[Meem]

Snips from my converstaion on another forum.
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I think (if allowed ) your idea is not far off from mine Alexander. I think string theory fits into the concept as well, and does not ... "violate" 3d space-time, or a given state of matter. Think of space as water and mater as heavy water. How could strings fit into this? Currents, waves, or ripples? There are only 3 states of matter, there are only 3 states of time, and only 3 states of space.
(edit) If 0 has no value what so ever, on a 2d graph, why do we use it? What is a sphere ... a 3d version of a 0. I don't find it odd at all that astronomical bodies are spherical in their shape in space, and we have natural circular paths, and that everything seems to have spin. What happens when you go from macro vision (astronomical units) to micro vision (sub-atomic units) we see the same patterns and shapes.(edit)

The middle state is the hinge point for the others, the natural state. We are in the middle of the future and the past, right now. You are there, I am here, and in the middle we can meet. It seems these 1 dimensional planes of space -black hole nothing one point, big-bang -everything one-point, give us the time to meet in the middle between them, in many variations and values of the two forms of singularity. So crazy, I know. Dark matter gravity, and anti-matter ... anti-gravity.

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Dare I say something like, dark energy and light energy. (Oh no, shaman, mystic) You can't technically see either one, unless they are interacting with each other, like the way we first "spotted" black-holes. The crazy part is not the idea of these singularities if you ask me, the crazy part is this thing in the middle we call reality. It brings up interesting philosophical questions.
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QUOTE (Meem @ Jun 14 2009, 03:10 AM)There are only 3 states of matter, there are only 3 states of time, and only 3 states of space.

Please clarify what "states" you are talking about, because I am aware of at least 5 states of matter (if you are indeed referring to temperature-linked states): neutronium (not what it's actually called), solid, liquid, gas, plasma.
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Plasma is a "liquid state" of energy.? Light would be the "gas" state? "Mass" solid matter, crystalline-molecular structure would be the "solid"state?

e=mass right, so what varieties does mass come in?

[Meem]

All solutions = . ?
No solutions = 0 ?

Interchangeable perhaps? A matter of perspective, depth, or movement?

[austintorn@aol.com]

Since everything is made from the near 'nothing' of the quantum fluctuation, 'nothing' is always in the middle, for example, the conserved energies of the universe add up to this near 'nothing'.

If the near 'nothing' were any smaller, it would have been the total Nothing—and would still be 'here', but that's no real worry, since it was obviously impossible, meaning that total Nothing was not the natural state of affairs. It's natural to have the something of the near 'nothing' of quantum uncertainty.

[Mohan.C]

A point or a zero, large or small spheres on which all value or functions are hinged.

Is that because all the values tend to approah a value don't have absolute values? I guess it makes more sense if we look at integer values as limits and all relative values as tending to these values.

If zero is nothing, why is it "smack" in the middle of everything we chart? It has a value that we can infinitely define further, just like ourselves.

Probably because we can define it infinitely backwards as well?
But, we can't say it is in the middle, since we can't evaluate infinity it would be inappropriate to say -infinity.....0.....+infinity

The question I have always had is that a graph only seems to chart space, not time. The graph is 2d when reality is 3d, I've heard topology gets into this concept but have never looked into it. Surface value, 2 dimensions, volume requires 3. The graph should be an angular view in my humble opinion, and should have a 3rd line to represent time in space. Do define a point or origin, one doesn't need a 6 sided box, and a point in the middle, just 3 lines.

Reality is 3d, but what we see is 2d.
I don't think anyone has been able to envision 4d space-time. Even though theoretically it makes more sense. I still maintain that time is just a measure.Time is a different entity from space, but it represents the same thing.

[Meem]

Infinite time(movement (measure1), infinite space(volume (measure2), infinite dimension(details/properties of 1&2 shared (measure3), infinite phase(functions(measure4). 4 dilation (flux) effects? Time and space are determined by dimension and phase? Who knows such things.

There are red shifts and blue shifts? different phases?

[Meem]

Since everything is made from the near 'nothing' of the quantum fluctuation, 'nothing' is always in the middle, for example, the conserved energies of the universe add up to this near 'nothing'.

If the near 'nothing' were any smaller, it would have been the total Nothing—and would still be 'here', but that's no real worry, since it was obviously impossible, meaning that total Nothing was not the natural state of affairs. It's natural to have the something of the near 'nothing' of quantum uncertainty.

What I always found simply interesting, in basic math, when one divides or multiplies two negative numbers, the result is always positive. I think that in "no-thing's" (if such a thing) attempts to get larger, or reduce "everything" smaller, it simply gives rise to the opposite effect, more of everything.

[Meem]

A sphere, when divided equally by two crossing planes, say space and time, makes 4 equal quadrants from any right angle vantage point, on any axis, no matter how big or small it appears to be, when viewing it in two dimensions. O is a 2d representation of a 3d sphere.

inane babble. Astronomical and sub atomic bodies come in what primary shape? So what are strings then? Ripples/currents/waves ... I'm not very fond of the term strings, associate that with puppetry.