[Rufus]

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For us to consider matter, string theory, Newtonian physics, we, as scientists must first consider the mechanism by which we do this examination. Primarily the views of these thoughts are present in what we call our brain. This central processing device is connected to senses that either relay information from without (ie the real world) or respond as projectors from the brain.

The brain senses gravity by feeling the weight information relayed by the various parts of the body. The brain senses the sight of the surroundings by relying on the eyes. Other senses such as taste and smell reinforce the idea that the brain is in real touch with a physical entity.

As we dream we get a clue that our senses may not be reliable. Dreams seem real. Waking reality seems even more real because of it's intrinsic memory and consistency of detail. There are two possibilities here. Either the senses act as a monitor to the brain in which it's required visions are manifest or we really do experience a world beyond mental reality. I see no reason to take the latter for granted.

Rufe

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by rufus The brain senses gravity by feeling the weight information relayed by the various parts of the body

when free falling, one does not sense any weight until hitting the ground before you are dead. Einstein used this to formulate his principle of equivalence between the inertial force and the force of gravity.

[Guille]

How can our brain "feel" weight?

I think it only "feels" its own weight, and it's not really "feeling".

The other parts of your body are the ones that "feel" your brain.

The only thing the brain could "feel" as weight are things you put on top of it or the electric charges/current (not sure of the correct word)? But I think electicity doesn't weight. does it?

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by GUILLE But I think electicity doesn't weight. does it?

the weight of electricity is the sum of the mass of each individual electrons. see more about electron at
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Electron.html

[subversion]

Originally Posted by Rufus . Either the senses act as a monitor to the brain in which it's required visions are manifest or we really do experience world beyond mental reality. I see no reason to take the latter for granted.

can you explain in more detail what you mean by this? I'm interested in what you are saying about the relationship between reality and dreams.

[eyeboy]

the brain and senses work by positive and negative feedback. the brain doesn't feel weight but can detect the lack of weight as negative feedback to say the feet?

[mkirkpatrick]

The barrier of the senses is limited to our understanding of what we are sensing?And what
about the sixth sense!Esp is becoming more talked about,and being more studied,some
universites have been looking at esp for years.

We can and often are fooled by our senses,but we can limit the amount of deception by
developing an inner awareness and a degree of detatchment from ourselves.



regards michael.

[eyeboy]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick The barrier of the senses is limited to our understanding of what we are sensing?And what about the sixth sense!Esp is becoming more talked about,and being more studied,some universites have been looking at esp for years. We can and often are fooled by our senses,but we can limit the amount of deception by developing an inner awareness and a degree of detatchment from ourselves. regards michael.

The thing is though couldn't it be like say the feet feel weight by touch, the higher the impulse the 'heavier' we feel.... its not like we knew what weight or gravity was until somone told us, we would only know that what goes up comes down in most cases.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick The barrier of the senses is limited to our understanding of what we are sensing?And what about the sixth sense!Esp is becoming more talked about,and being more studied,some universites have been looking at esp for years. We can and often are fooled by our senses,but we can limit the amount of deception by developing an inner awareness and a degree of detatchment from ourselves. regards michael.

Michael
I see you have reserected this old thread, I really appreciate that
It was intended to show that real things are created by the projection of what we refer to as the brain or our thought process and not the other way around.
The phrase means that we are actually protected from knowing if things are real in a materialist sense or created by imagination.
In figmentalism the sixth sense is explained by the fact that we are really all the same entity and individuality is an illusion. A premonition is simply ourselves allowing ourselves to know what a specific random generator is about to produce.
Esp is actually the failure of our protection system
None of these things require proof because they are simply what we know now unless some worldly theory is proved and to date none ever have been.
Rufe

[eyeboy]

Originally Posted by Rufus Michael None of these things require proof because they are simply what we know now unless some worldly theory is proved and to date none ever have been. Rufe

Rufus,
do you know if that is the consensus, that the answer is agnostic?