Quantum Wave Cosmology is my TOE :)

[Bogie]

Philosophical conclusions

Idealism, since it denies things in themselves (besides monads) and multiplies them in different points of view. Monads are “perpetual living mirrors of the universe.”

That is philosophical. This link to "On the Monands of Leibniz" starts out with the following with which I agree:

"Many people used to wonder why scientists paid so much attention to the excessively minute and seemingly unimportant particles of which this world and the stars are made; but the events of recent years have convinced nearly everyone that the study of the atom is crucial to man's future. The student, therefore, who loves nature follows with profound interest every increase in true knowledge about the structure of 'matter,' for it promises to lead to deeper wisdom, even to glimpses of regions of life and consciousness hitherto unknown; or if suspected, usually regarded as belonging only to the sphere of religious faith or hope, not to sober reality."

I don't appreciate idealism so much and though I think the unknowns of nature hold surprises that we would find to be just fine, there may just as well be aspects that limit us and could be thought of as holding us back from some things 'idealistic'. Better to do the science, speculate about what nature has not yet disclosed, and suspect and seek the limits of human potential.

1. Everything exists according to a reason (by the axiom "Nothing arises from nothing")
2. Everything which exists has a sufficient reason to exist;
3. Everything which exists is better than anything non-existent (by the first point: since it is more rational, it also has more reality), and, consequently, it is the best possible being in the best of all possible worlds (by the axiom: "That which contains more reality is better than that which contains less reality").

Though I may be misinterpreting them, the problem I have with those axioms is that my first axiom, "The universe has always existed", precludes them in QWC. There is no purpose or intent or design unless such purpose, intent or design has always existed which is a difficult concept, wouldn't you agree?

The “best of all possible worlds,” then, is that “containing the greatest variety of phenomena from the smallest amount of principles.”

Now that I seem to agree with; go figure .

Fractals ??

QWC is not fractal but you are thinking along the right lines, I think. Arenas are the product of natural laws and each arena is the same within some tolerance. Arena are the product of the arena process which describes them from their big crunch to their eventual overlap.

The fractal possibility might correspond to higher and lower levels of order, i.e. a group of arenas making up a tiny particle on some 'greater' level, or a tiny quantum containing a number of arenas on some sub-quantum level of order. QWC does not deal with higher and lower levels of order because they would require a huge increase in complexity and there is no evidence of them.

cool bananas ... greg (an WIKI)

Yes, Wiki too .

[Graybeard]

Though I may be misinterpreting them, the problem I have with those axioms is that my first axiom, "The universe has always existed", precludes them in QWC. There is no purpose or intent or design unless such purpose, intent or design has always existed which is a difficult concept, wouldn't you agree?

All axioms except your first axiom are dependent on a semi-closed system within a larger system.

But the Universe is the true closed system containing all others ... therefore your first axiom holds good ... and the others all apply ??

cool bananas ... greg

[Bogie]

All axioms except your first axiom are dependent on a semi-closed system within a larger system.

But the Universe is the true closed system containing all others ... therefore your first axiom holds good ... and the others all apply ??

cool bananas ... greg

Yes, cool bananas on that.

Then to the intent of your post, were you seeing idealism in my ideas?

[austintorn@aol.com]

< 25 >
— Coffee Invented —

Coffee plants were in the desert first seen,
By a starving outcast, who ate the bean—
And found it bitter, hard; so, boiled some, tart,
Finding that the water was the better part.

< 26 >
— Coffee Resented —

Such, from asylum, he returned home, quaint,
And for his coffee was declared a saint,
Though its drinkers were despised by clerics—
The partakers dallied over their cups!

< 27 >
— Unheard From —

Don’t let life’s noise bother you, day and night—
Find some secret place, far from the spotlight,
Where silence can’t be drowned, where you can hear
The voice of your inner chorus singing outright.

< 28 >
— Sanctifier —

My soul to solitude does oft retire
When the noise of life sets my nerves on fire.
There the rhythmic songs of nature inspire—
I sense the vibrance of my inner choir.

< 29 >
— Best Friend —

Dear solitude, who with silence does blend
Quietly, to let all my thoughts ascend:
With you I’m alone but never lonely,
For I am my own best and loving friend.

< 30 >
— Recipe —

Sunbeams, breezes, dewdrops everywhere,
Nature, love, friends, sensation, adventure—
We have it all—four elements are there:
Life’s a mix of earth, fire, water and air.

< 31 >
— Grateful Prayer —

My blood runs warm with the sun’s heat at noon.
My spirit is swept by the swelling moon.
Air surrounds me. The ocean flows through me.
Earth’s rhythm is always playing my tune.

< 32 >
— Balance —

Not quite sober blessed nor drunk to excess,
Never too foolish nor very reckless—
Oh, one’s passion is so reasonable
In this delicate state of awareness.

< 33 >
— The Union Begets All —

There’s a subtle, interlinked complexity of
Life, a relation that unites the world in love—
The earth is our mother, sustaining from below;
The sky is our father, nourishing from above.

< 34 >
— A Word’s Girth —

I notice here, a great pittance and dearth
Of words that rhyme with our beloved ‘Earth’;
So, aside from mirth, how can poems give birth
To all that life on this planet is worth?

< 35 >
— Sum of the Parts —

Life must be more like a mosaic done,
Than a focused laser tunnel of sun.
Since few lengthy pleasures are lent to us,
We build a stained-glass window of small ones.

[Bogie]

I posted this on Mel's new thread but want to include it here as some contemplations of QWC:

Sixteen Sayings
There is no irrefutable proof about the existence or non-existence of God
It is natural for contemplative humans to consider the possible existence of God
Nature is obvious and all around us and science is the surveyor of the unknown
If the unknowns conceal God then advances in science will unveil God
If the unknowns are all unveiled and everything is found natural then God can only be nature
I suspect that brains emit waves from our consciousness that traverse the cosmos
I suspect that the cosmos has a record of all consciousness that is as pervasive as the CMBR
I believe the universe has always existed and if there is a God, God and the universe are one
I enjoy freewill as an individual and am tolerant of the exercise of freewill by others
I believe the line of tolerance is drawn when the exercise of freewill carelessly harms others
I believe individuals can discern good from evil and are capable of doing both
I hope that there is accountability for evil acts imposed in accord with the natural laws
I believe in the “rule” where all unknowns have undiscovered natural causes
I believe enlightenment is a realization of the rule of natural causes
I believe human understanding of nature can be improved through contemplation
I believe the unknown powers of being human are natural and can be sought out individually

[Bogie]

In one or two places over time other than this thread, I have discussed FS, symmetry of FS, randomness or order in FS, and some people's ideas of evolution over time in FS to bring us to our current state. This post is meant to bring my perception of that past content to my thread for the record, and to elaborate on my views on the subject of FS (fundamental substance or fundamental state) as it applies to QWC.

As I understand it, FS is fundamental substance or fundamental state of some universal substance. The fundamental state is random (chaos) or it is uniform (order). Randomness is referred to as symmetry and order is referred to as asymmetrical. A quantum of energy is considered asymmetrical and anything composed of quanta is asymmetrical. Matter for example is asymmetrical under that definition.

Before I go on ruminating on how QWC deals with those concepts, would anyone like to correct me as far as the above goes or elaborate on the concepts in the above paragraph? Feel free.

Now as for addressing those concepts in QWC, from what I get about it, FS is a starting point for a TOE and there is no consensus as to the nature of FS. But in QWC it doesn't matter that there are different views about it because I find that both views can be described in terms of QWC as being appropriate under different phases of the arena and quantum processes of QWC.

Randomness or maximum chaos occurs in QWC, and uniformity or maximum order of the FS occurs in QWC. Both can occur because the arena process and quantum process have phases that play out in each arena.

At the core of a big crunch the FS contained under maximum compression of gravity is called the universal medium in its dense state meaning that the waves of energy that compose all matter, the quanta, are no longer individually identified. They are compressed out of the state of quanta (asymmetry) and into a state of potential expansion energy contained by the crunch.

When a big crunch bursts into expansion, the dense state energy immediately encounters the universal cosmic microwave background energy which is in the form of light waves or photon energy and the dense state (UM) becomes chaotic or characterized by tiny random waves caused as the light speed microwave energy impacts with the light speed expansion of the released dense dark energy of the huge arena wave (referred to as lightspeed squared encounters).

The randomness of the expanding ball of chaotic wave energy becomes more uniform and orderly and asymmetrical as quanta form and as matter forms from the quanta in the expanding arena. A mature arena full of galaxies that provide many hospitably environments where the orderliness leads to the emergence and evolution of life is approaching maximum uniformity and order out of the randomness and chaos.

QWC is characterized by a perpetual process of arena action where there are a potentially infinite number of active arenas across the infinite and eternal arena landscape of the greater universe.

[Graybeard]

Yes, cool bananas on that.

Then to the intent of your post, were you seeing idealism in my ideas?

No .... ??? ... Just confirmation regarding the laws of Thermodynamics ??

In one or two places over time other than this thread, I have discussed FS, symmetry of FS, randomness or order in FS, and some people's ideas of evolution over time in FS to bring us to our current state. This post is meant to bring my perception of that past content to my thread for the record, and to elaborate on my views on the subject of FS (fundamental substance or fundamental state) as it applies to QWC.

As I understand it, FS is fundamental substance or fundamental state of some universal substance. The fundamental state is random (chaos) or it is uniform (order). Randomness is referred to as symmetry and order is referred to as asymmetrical. A quantum of energy is considered asymmetrical and anything composed of quanta is asymmetrical. Matter for example is asymmetrical under that definition.

Before I go on ruminating on how QWC deals with those concepts, would anyone like to correct me as far as the above goes or elaborate on the concepts in the above paragraph? Feel free.

I would like to correct you ... lol

Both theories, both Uniform Va and Random Va see the FS as Symmetrical ..... Asymmetry produced the universe from the FS ... or IMO ... within the FS


cool bananas ... greg

[Lloyd Gillespie]

You're both wrong, in your statements...

[Graybeard]

And of course Bogie, I forgot to mention, there is a third view ...... lol

cool bananas ... greg

[Bogie]

Lol, well I stand corrected and recorrected.

But I think the arena process could have a phase that has some correlation to FS symmetry. But I don't know about VA :shrug:.