AntonioLao (07-31-2010), labelwench (07-31-2010)
How could we find something that is already missing?
Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: ¶a(t)·¶r(t)=c²
Bogie (07-31-2010), labelwench (07-31-2010)
My reverence is likewise reserved for the natural order, and I wonder greatly that I have been granted an awareness in the experiencing of it all.
Having just awoken and with no true scientific understanding of your right-handed neutrinos, I would be inclined to speculate that they are 'hidden' in plain view.
As the foundation of a house is the most important, yet least visible part of the entire structure, perhaps, so too, with the right-handed neutrinos.
Where then, would I look for an understanding of such?
The actual instant of the creation of life, and the actual moment of death, seem like threshold moments where one might catch a glimpse, or perhaps it would be the moment that the 'software' is installed in the brain of any developing embryo, human or other kind.
Any or all of these mechanisms are little understood by us, as they are difficult to examine without being invasive or disruptive to the integrity of the process and such is forbidden by those with a respect for ethics.
With good cause, I suspect.
When first we studied the splitting of the atom, we unleashed great harm upon ourselves.
The right-handed neutrinos may be elusive to us for the best of reasons.
That we harm not ourselves or our habitat further than we have to date.
We do not have an elegant history in our use of new discovery, to my way of thinking.
For the few who would act wisely, there are ever more who would act with proprietary interest, to the detriment of the greater population and our shared habitat.
So many paths to the same destination,
would, but I could, experience them all...
AntonioLao (07-31-2010), Bogie (07-31-2010)
I made a mistake by saying that neutrino interacts with EM force and strong nuclear force. Actually it only interacts by the weak force. However, it is firmly established that the left-handed neutrino causes radioactivity in nuclear disintegration and a dying star would produce more and more neutrino. If that is the case, the right-handed one would do just the opposite. It would help nuclear integration and create heavier nuclei which is a process for nuclear fusion.
Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: ¶a(t)·¶r(t)=c²
Bogie (08-01-2010)
Discovery I guess.
You are speculating about the nature of the missing right handed neutrino and maybe you should be speculating about the cause of the initial expansion that we observe that set our arena in motion and lead to the formation of the left handed neutrinos instead? What I mean is like what LW said, maybe the threshold events need to be better understood before the pieces we know can be used to lead to discovery.
That is where the arena concept came from. It neatly describes possible preconditions and the possible cause of our Big Bang, IMHO. It also results in my speculation about the light speed squared encounter between the dark energy of the expanding arena and the CMBR that pre-existed our Big Bang and the subsequent possible blue shifting of the photons to a halt leading to the initial formaiton of matter and the quantization process within the new arena.
The cause of the initial expansion is described clearly and mathematically in GR. The right-handed neutrino is one of the theoretical particles of the standard model of elementary particles which is not yet observed. Conventionally, there is no theoretical relation between neutrino and the BB. To say that there is, is the same as saying that QM and GR are unified.
It must be understood that all unifications of physical concepts were done first theoretically and described by mathematics. Next, comes the hard part: the financially expensive (money and manpower) step of testing the theories by experiments. This was done exactly for the unification of electromagnetism and the weak nuclear interaction known as the electroweak theory (the first part of the standard model of elementary particles. The second part is QCD) which is responsible for radioactive decays. Without radioactive disintegrations, stars cannot die. Since we are made from the debris of supernovas as the final cataclysm of a dying star, no weak nuclear decays means no people. There is no direct correlation between BB and the weak force. But relatively, BB causes everything while the weak force the origin of life. Sadly, it can be hypothesized that by the same weak force we are mortally created. But what is the purpose of immortals to create mortal beings?
Now,from these, I seem to believe that the Immortals create imperfect mortals such as giving them a left hand but no right hand to work with.Why would immortals do such a cruel creation?
Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: ¶a(t)·¶r(t)=c²
Bogie (07-31-2010)
QWC Speculation about the cause of matter and gravity:
Let me state what I think to be true in regard to any particle with mass. They all occupy a volume of space, they are not one dimensional or two, they occupy three dimensions of space at all times. A point has no volume and cannot be a particle. A line has length but no volume and cannot be a particle. Particles with mass occupy three dimensions in space.
A particle with mass is quantized into quantum increments of energy. All energy within matter is accounted for in whole numbers of energy quanta and energy produced in any form by matter is produced in whole quanta. Energy as we know it is the ability to produce work, and because matter is quantized, the traditional production of energy through work is quantized; work takes place in quantum increments just like mass is composed of energy in quantum increments.
The gravitational field has an infinite reach due to the energy waves that are continually caused by its presence.
Matter is continually maintained through a repetitive quantization process characterized by the physical flow of energy into and out of the high density space occupied by the particle once it is established. Thus there is energy in space that is not in the form of matter and this notion corrects the error of all empty space/non-aether advocates. All space contains some level of energy density of this unquantized energy that can only be evidenced by the fact that the process that quantizes it would explain the presence of mass and gravity, and without it there is no understanding of the cause of mass and gravity. Keep in mind that the universe has always existed in an arena landscape across a potentially infinite universe and so at any point in time the energy background and the expanding arenas are in place and those two forms of energy perpetuate themselves as described below.
This indirect evidence, i.e. the fact the particles have mass and both exert and feel gravity can be explained if gravity is the inflow of energy into a high density spot and mass is the presence of high density spots in a given space. Any particle of mass would contain huge organized synchronized stable numbers of these spots that are continually refreshing their presence and location through this process that is perpetual once it begins.
The initial quantization of matter is based on the encounter between photons that always exist in the background, and expanding arenas of energy that emerge from big crunches throughout the landscape of the greater universe. A big crunch is described as the encounter of two galaxy filled mature arenas that result in the formation of a huge high energy density big crunch. The photons are the light emitted from the charged particles that make up the galaxies in the mature arenas. The universal cosmic microwave background energy (UCMBE) is the light emanated from an infinite history of the formation and disbursal of galaxy filled arenas. They perpetually feed the background with photon energy which in turn feed new arenas with matter to form galaxies as the arenas mature.
The expansion of energy in space typical of every new arena and the pre-existing photons traversing space outside of the expanding arena makes for high velocity encounters between the two forms of energy; photons traveling at the speed of light and the expanding dark energy of the arena that expands at or greater than the speed of light. Quantization is a “light speed squared” encounter between the two forms of energy to produce spots of mass in the tiny volume of space that would be associated with a photon if it were at rest.
Photons at rest are the result of photons that are blue shifted to a halt as they encounter the expanding arena and they become high density spots within the arena. This production of mass from photons initiates the process of quantum action, causing mass and gravity within the arena.
These high density spots have a high but finite energy density and occupy a three dimensional volume of space, i.e. they are not points in space that have infinite energy density. The encounter between photons traversing the universal cosmic microwave background with dark energy in an expanding arena causes mass to form within the otherwise massless high energy density arena.
Photon energy is converted to mass with gravity. The energy of photons in the background is quantized and the photons in the background are thermalized to ~2.7 K, thus they all have the same energy and this energy becomes the basis of the energy quantum that is converted to mass as the 2.7 K photons are blue shifted to a halt by the “light speed squared” encounters. The matter is the blue shifted photon and the gravity is the low energy density created in the space surrounding the high density spot containing the individual quantum of energy. The low energy density space is swarmed by the high energy density of the bursting spots and though the spots rapidly reform, they have moved each time they reform and the low energy density space is still there. Thus the low energy space surrounding the spots is conserved and perpetuates the gravitational field surrounding matter. As long as this low energy density space is conserved within and surrounding the vicinity of the high density spots that are matter, the particle functions as mass and gravity is emanated.
QWC is the cosmology of this entropy defeating arena process and the quantization of blue shifted photons that form mass in “light speed squared” encounters. The mass is converted back into unquantized energy in the big cruch and new unquantized expanding arenas are produced to again encounter the UCMBE and produce mass.
I’m going to rewrite this set of step by step speculations but I wanted to post it on the off chance that there will be constructive comments that I can incorporate in the rewrite. Remember my disclaimer that this is speculation.
False...!!!Energy as we know it is the ability to produce work...
Energy is the measurement of work produced, or potential of matter in motion to be evaluated...
The horse gotta' be dare', to get de' horse-power...!!!
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Bogie (08-01-2010)
You can see can't you that if you take that statement in context, the paragraph says the same thing as potential and measured. "A particle with mass is quantized into quantum increments of energy. All energy within matter is accounted for in whole numbers of energy quanta and energy produced in any form by matter is produced in whole quanta. Energy as we know it is the ability to produce work, and because matter is quantized, the traditional production of energy through work is quantized; work takes place in quantum increments just like mass is composed of energy in quantum increments."
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