"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
"Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
"The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
"The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
OK then Lloyd.
Is that how you characterize it? I characterize is as you taking eleven words out of contest, “Energy as we know it is the ability to produce work...(only about 9 million hits on that Google search)”, and saying false followed by three exclamation points to drive home your belief that the traditional definition of energy is not said to be the ability to do work. I have always thought that to be true because the traditional beginning texts that cover that topic say that and though it is elaborated on in college level texts I know my simple traditional statement is true.
Then after you proclaim what is true to be false, you make statements that refer to the concepts of potential energy in matter and the measurement of work extracted from matter in motion. Both of those concepts are encompassed in the paragraph from which you took the eleven words out of context..
And did you say energy is not the cause of anything? Do you stand by that?
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=What+...dc5b2f1b33f30a
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
"Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
"The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
"The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
Bogie (08-01-2010)
This is a link to a result of energy from the millions in the Google search. Your are making just as much sense as that particular one though energy is traditionally refered to as the ability to do work as demonstrated by the Google link that returned about 9 million responses to the query, "energy is the ability to do work".
If your repeat of the same non scientific proclamation is a proof of your newly developed communications skills it is back to the drawing board for you.
Now if you are serious, and you read my earlier post about mass and gravity, and your only meaningful comment from it is about the eleven words you took out of context then I am surprised at you.
Why don't you learn to pay attention to what is posted, Bogie...???
Absolutely...!!! As A Fundamental...!!! Absolutely Fundamental, as in fundamental substance in motion...
Your turn to wake up...!!!
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
"Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
"The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
"The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
Bogie (08-01-2010)
Oh, gees. OK, I see what you are getting at. However, I speculate that the fundamental substance, if we are now talking about the same thing, is utilized by a perpetual process to produce mass and gravity. Matter has always existed in QWC and is recycled by the processes that I describe.
The fundamental substance I refer to is unquantized energy which combines with what I call the UCMBE (universal cosmic microwave background energy) to produce mass and gravity in new arenas as they burst into expansion.
Gravity has a potentially infinite reach because once gravity waves are produced as matter is formed, they forever traverse the space that is filled with unquantized energy until their path is interrupted by encountering some other object.
Bogie, do yourself a favor__buy yourself some real physics books... Energy is not a fundamental substance__It's a product of fundamental substance__I learned that in high-school physics... Of course, I went to an academy, where I had the luxury of PhD professor/teachers... My physics teacher was a woman, and exceptionally brilliant... I also grew up with a house full of engineers, scientists and physicists...
I never saw the energy of a blueberry, before I saw a blueberry...
Burned my finger on the wood-stove when young, and felt the energy of heat, but its fundamental substance, at least at the fire level, was wood__good ol' wood...
No energy, to speak of, ever came outta' that stove__without that fundamental wood...
Just like the stars__ain't no energy, without those fundamental particles...
Ain't no fundamental particles__without the fundamental substance mass fields...
You can read all the nonsense you want of the over-hyped pseudo-ville__until you realize a Universe of Mass 1st, is absolutely required to produce anything of Mass 2nd, there ain't no absolute quantifiability or validity__Possible__Otherwise...
Absolute FS with Mass__Or You Don't Got Science...!!!
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
"Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
"The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
"The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
Don't need a disclaimer, as I always try to state when it's theory or conjecture...
And Bogie, no one's going to pay attention to your; "matter has always existed in QWC"__when you continue to state the absolute opposite afterwards, just as Fredrick is always doing...
Logic is one or the other, not both__unless explained as properly path linked, each time...
Bogie, why don't you lose your anger, and simply realize someone's trying to help ya...???
Is it the atheist thing that bothers ya the most, or what...???
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
"Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
"The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
"The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
Bogie (08-01-2010)
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