Quantum Wave Cosmology is my TOE :)

[Penz2nz]

Excellent to see yourself, Steve and others joining Bogie in his contemplations.

The years have granted me the wisdom to understand that when properly handicapped, the Bogie turns into an Eagle.

[Bogie]

The years have granted me the wisdom to understand that when properly handicapped, the Bogie turns into an Eagle.

That would be about a 45 handicap; sounds about right, lol.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Here's a video for Bogie; almost looks likes two arenas clashing:

The song is a part of "Religion and Science", a lessor known piece from 'Angels & Demons' that is slow moving, with majesty.

[austintorn@aol.com]

And for Penz2nz we have the future of space travel since he is from Goddard Space Center:

[Penz2nz]

Maybe we can get some help from the community :shrug:.

When we pass white light through a prism the spectrum of visible light appears. They say white light contains all colors meaning that it is a combination of many photons of all different visible wave lengths. Now you've got me wondering if the colors were all in the white light to start with or if the prism changed the wave length of the white light based on the angle and the distance that the light passed through the glass.

"They say" I love that phrase. "They" call it white light but I have never seen a beam of white enter one side of a prism. It has always been transparent (invisible) to my eyes. Based on how the prism is placed I deduce that radiating energy from the sun reaches one side and spreads out through the glass. As it spreads, each angle of deflection reacts to that energy by interacting with the orbiting electrons of the atoms along each visible color path and the prism acts like a multicolored flashlight reflecting off whatever surface is used to reflect those colors. You don't see those colors in the air, only reflected on another surface. You can actually experience this phenomenon by viewing the tips of dew covered grass on a bright early morning. If you isolate one tiny glint of color with you eyes and then mover your head ever so slightly from side to side you can view all the colors of the rainbow in a single droplet at the tip of a single blade of grass. All of those colors are in the space that envelopes that tiny droplet and the surface couture relative to your eye position dictates which color is revealed.

When light encounters the red feather for example does the atomic structure of the surface of the feather change the wave length of the light so we see it as the frequency that we define as red, or does the feather absorb the red light from the spectrum of light that hits the feather and our eyes detect the missing wave length and send that to our brain as a message that equates to red.

The electrons in the surface atoms of the feather orbit in and out of the light at a constant wave rate revealing the color "in the light" and space which are both resting against that atom. The feather does not absorb the color, it excites the resting light at that wavelength.

I guess I'll have to pull out my physics books and refresh my memory because in order to re-engineer my concept of light I need to be sure that I start from a scientific departure point.

Good luck with that. I have already departed from many of those points. (Grin)

Rethinking light, especially visible light in light of our views of the universal medium (UM) does offer some opportunity for contemplation. Let's see if anyone else has any comments to help us out with the accepted science or ideas of how light, as science describes it, could be made up of two perpendicular transverse waves representing its electrical and magnetic fields as it traverses the proposed UM.

Rethinking our understanding of "invisible" light is what is needed here. The "accepted science" is the problem not the solution.

I was thinking that the two fields associated with light were the reason that it could traverse empty UM-less space that science is currently working with; it creates it own fields as it goes. The fields are supposed to be a scalar characteristics of light as it moves and I think the ray of light is supposed to oscillate between the two fields giving it its wave characteristics. The frequency of the wave then establishes the color that we see. It seems like it is time to hit the books on this one.

My question would then be: What gives it it's particle characteristics. But I don't have that problem because I view light as a "stable field" through which radiating energy passes.

[Penz2nz]

And for Penz2nz we have the future of space travel since he is from Goddard Space Center:

Why thank you Austintorn.

But that should read "Kingdom of Goddard Space Center"

And in shameless reciprocation let me offer:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Penz2nz?feature=mhum

[Bogie]

"They say" I love that phrase. "They" call it white light but I have never seen a beam of white enter one side of a prism. It has always been transparent (invisible) to my eyes. Based on how the prism is placed I deduce that radiating energy from the sun reaches one side and spreads out through the glass. As it spreads, each angle of deflection reacts to that energy by interacting with the orbiting electrons of the atoms along each visible color path and the prism acts like a multicolored flashlight reflecting off whatever surface is used to reflect those colors. You don't see those colors in the air, only reflected on another surface. You can actually experience this phenomenon by viewing the tips of dew covered grass on a bright early morning. If you isolate one tiny glint of color with you eyes and then mover your head ever so slightly from side to side you can view all the colors of the rainbow in a single droplet at the tip of a single blade of grass. All of those colors are in the space that envelopes that tiny droplet and the surface couture relative to your eye position dictates which color is revealed.



The electrons in the surface atoms of the feather orbit in and out of the light at a constant wave rate revealing the color "in the light" and space which are both resting against that atom. The feather does not absorb the color, it excites the resting light at that wavelength.

That is an interesting way to look at it. You are saying that the light is already there in the space between the feather and our eye, and that the sub atomic frequency of the surface of the feather excites the light in the intervening space? If so, then would you say that the speed of light is the rate at which the light medium (UM) transfers the feather's frequency to our eye? Is that called the "speed" of radiating energy through the light field? Is it the same as what we call and measure as the speed of light?

Good luck with that. I have already departed from many of those points. (Grin)

Oh, me too, lol.

Rethinking our understanding of "invisible" light is what is needed here. The "accepted science" is the problem not the solution.

Good thing they've got us to sort it out for them .

My question would then be: What gives it it's particle characteristics. But I don't have that problem because I view light as a "stable field" through which radiating energy passes.

Nature of light in QWC:

The dot of light or point of light that we record on photo plates, or CCD's, or our eyes makes for the conclusion of the particle nature of light. All sensing devices including our eyes are seeing a cross section of all the light. At any given instant that cross section encompasses billions of photons which are waves. The first part of a wave to hit the retina intersects at a point, the point of detection.

The photon is not just that point of detection, it is the curved surface of a spherical wave passing us (from the radiating source). The in-phase photon is the whole spherical surface of the advancing individual burst of photon energy, but we don't see light "in-phase", we see it at a point along the line of sight as a ray of light. The Ray is the "in-phase" point in the line of sight on sequential curved plane waves. Thus the photon is a spherical wave of photon energy and ray of light at the point of detection gives the illusion of a particle, each "particle" being a point on each spherical plane wave as the curved in-phase surfaces pass the point of detection. Light traversing the UM is in the form of waves.

Multiple viewers who are seeing the "same view" are really seeing the same photon waves from different lines of sight. There is a slight time delay between viewers due to the "speed" of radiating energy through the light field (UM) .

Light energy also can be transferred as thermal radiation which is akin to biophotonic radiation discussed in this post from another thread which adds some interesting insight. Popp say that biophotonic emission is a perfect communication system that transfers information to many cells across the body and to other bodies.

[Mikal]

Hi Bogie…I found this research the other day and thought you might be interested concerning the two categories of interaction of EM waves with biological matter into the classifications of Thermal and Non-thermal…

DNA RESONANCE (123)--VIBRATIONAL


Biophysicists have demonstrated in their experiments that DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid)--the molecular code for life resonantly absorbs electromagnetic energy in the microwave range of the frequency spectrum.

These biophysicists classify the interaction of electromagnetic waves with biological matter into two categories: thermal and non-thermal. They have found in their experiments that microwaves in the 300 MEGAHERTZ(millions of cycles per second) to 3 GIGAHERTZ(billions of cycles per second) range of frequencies in the electromagnetic spectrum can be thermally absorbed by causing a dipolar molecule, such as water to oscillate in a frictional media, thereby dissipating the energy in the form of heat.

Nonthermal absorption of electromagnetic energy is reported to be far more obscure and controversial since it is thought to occur at relatively low levels of power (amplitude).

It has been demonstrated in some experiments among biophysicists that DNA molecules can non-thermally absorb energy from microwaves partially because the DNA chains exhibit a phenomenon known as RESONANCE. All physical systems biological or otherwise have some sort of natural resonance at certain frequencies (resonant frequency). For instance a violin string has a natural resonant frequency that is directly related to its length, mass (thickness), and its tension. If plucked and left alone the violin string will quite readily vibrate that frequency until the energy it has acquired has been completely dissipated back out of the string. If the string is forced to vibrate at another frequency it will do so but without much enthusiasm. However when the driving frequency approaches the resonant frequency of the string the amplitude of the strings vibrations will increase manyfold and the string will resonate in harmony with the driving force.

The researchers in one particular experiment found that microwaves of around 3 gigahertz could resonantly drive a longitudinal vibration mode in DNA chains by electrically coupling with ions residing on the backbone of the DNA helix.

In regards to energy absorption of the DNA molecule as opposed to the solution that was used in some of these experiments researchers found(in one particular experiment) An absorption coefficient that was 400 times greater than the solvent alone at 11 gigahertz, when using a solution that contained a mixture of DNA chain lengths.


RESONANCE.
When a force is applied repeatedly at the natural frequency of any system large amplitude oscillations result. This is the phenomenon known in physics as RESONANCE.


When a vibrating system is pushed or driven at the natural frequency of that system--RESONANCE occurs.

http://www.west.net/~simon/index.html

[Penz2nz]

That is an interesting way to look at it. You are saying that the light is already there in the space between the feather and our eye, and that the sub atomic frequency of the surface of the feather excites the light in the intervening space? If so, then would you say that the speed of light is the rate at which the light medium (UM) transfers the feather's frequency to our eye? Is that called the "speed" of radiating energy through the light field? Is it the same as what we call and measure as the speed of light?

Yes and no.

Yes the light is already there. We need to come to understand that light, like space, is a stable condition or field. All matter can be viewed as traveling through this field of "light-space" and that field can be mapped with a simple x, y, z three dimensional grid.

No to the issue of speed. Sir Roger Penrose desires a cosmological constant of "zero" and here he has it. Space and light are not in motion. We see through both. A distant star is visible instantaneously to our eye because we are not seeing light energy emitting from that star. We are looking THROUGH space and light. We are seeing the surface of the star through space. We don't have to wait for space to transmit what we see and we don't have to wait for light to transmit what we are seeing because they both allow us to see through them. Light and space are transparent. What we are seeing is "color" at the object's surface. Instantaneously. The frequency of any visible color does not have to travel from the surface of the object to our eyes. Imagine space and light as a window that allows you to see what is beyond. The transverse waves created in the light at the surface of the object do not have to leave the object for us to detect the color. So the speed of light is zero. As is the speed of space.

[austintorn@aol.com]

What do we see when we "see" our reflection in a mirror?