Quantum Wave Cosmology is my TOE :)

[Bogie]

Sir, before you go on about quantum action, would you please clear up something for me. You said, “The density of the expanding arena gradually becomes equalized with the density of the surrounding low density UM”. I take that to mean that the arena gradually stops expanding and yet you say they expand until they overlap. Try to keep your story straight.

Man: Oh my God, you sound like you were paying attention but there is a perfectly good explanation. Let me address the word “expansion” as it applies to the arena during the period of time from the initial burst of the big crunch to the time that it intersects and overlaps with an adjacent arena.

First, before the big crunch fails, the new arena is contained in the core of the big crunch. The first time I use the term expansion applies to that compressed universal medium that came from the negated matter and energy that entered the big crunch in the form of galactic material and energy from the parent arenas. I said that the resulting dense state UM had expansion potential. The expansion potential is in accord with the QWC laws of conservation. Wave energy is conserved and sense wave energy is realized by wave motion, if the wave motion of matter compressed and negated in the core of a big crunch is to be conserved it must be transformed into potential energy. Expansion potential is potential energy that is based on the nature of UM itself, i.e. it wants to equalize its density across all space. If the available space happens to be determined by the containment zone within a big crunch so be it, the UM in the dense state of the core is equalized across the volume of space occupied by the core. This happens to be the maximum possible density in the universe according to QWC.

I then use the term “expansion” to apply to the burst event, i.e. the big bang. Expansion potential overcomes the ability of the crunch to contain it and the dense state UM bursts into expansion. This event is the initial realization of the expansion potential. Dense state UM is allowed to begin equalizing its density over a greater volume of space. In fact, the new volume of space that it is trying to equalize is potentially infinite; it is the greater universe itself. In relative terms, the tiny patch of dense state UM in a new arena is a drop in the ocean of infinite space and aside from the UM containment zones that exist across the landscape, the UM is endless plodding toward compete equalization, i.e. uniform density.

Now for the place in the evolution of the arena where the term “expansion” changes from the nature of the arena itself, to the nature of the matter that forms within it. As I said there are zones where containment of UM occurs naturally in the universe and that keep the UM from achieving complete entropy; complete entropy being the state of universal UM equalization. The core of a big crunch that we just discussed is one such major type of zone. But a high density spot in the arena is another, albeit much smaller type of zone. And to carry that thought further, stable particles are related zones of UM containment brought on by the synchronization of waves of UM orchestrated by quantum action which I will address soon. This is algorithmic meaning that there isn’t anything about it that can’t be rendered to math.

The motions of particles follow the natural laws and in QWC that includes their initial momentum. They have “expansion momentum” imparted to them as they form in the expanding arena. Remembering the sea of dark matter that begins to form in the first instant of arena expansion, all of those high density spots are moving away from each other as they form. The subsequent stable particles that form are all moving away from each other too because expansion momentum is conserved. Oh sure, the dark matter clumps into groups because dark matter also has gravity and the strength of the gravitational attraction can overcome the expansion momentum in the very close quarters of a new arena; it is the application of the inverse square law.

And that law continues to apply as stable particles form. They are all moving away from each other as expansion momentum is conserved but the inverse square law still allows those particles to clump because the distance variable in the inverse square equation is still small enough to allow adjoining particles to find each other. The distance variable allows clumping of hydrogen into huge stars and stars into galaxies, but once galaxies and clusters of galaxies form the distance variable is finally defeated by the conserved expansion momentum accumulated by the galaxies. The galaxies and clusters all move away from each other and in a mature arena the expansion momentum of those galaxies and clusters can no longer be overcome by gravity. That stage of expansion marks arena maturity and is where we find ourselves in our own arena. We are observing that the galaxies and cluster are moving away from each other at an accelerating rate because the distance variable is too great to be overcome by gravity and the expansion momentum of the galaxies is making the distance variable become more and more dominate in the ongoing battle between gravity and expansion in the arena.

I hope that explanation relieves your concern about me keeping my story straight. You can see that if my speculations are right, the arena will continue to expand meaning that the galaxies will continue to separate at an accelerating rate until something happens to interrupt their expansion momentum.

Of course, in QWC something does happen to cause that interruption, and that is that the expanding arenas will intersect and overlap with adjacent arenas and new big crunches will form at the center of gravity of the overlaps.

Sir, I thank you for that lengthy but enlightening explanation.

Man: Think nothing of it.

[Bogie]

Sir, it is interesting that you should mention that the separation momentum of the galaxies and galaxy clusters is increasing at an accelerating rate. You explained why that occurs as being related to the distance variable of the inverse square law. As the distance becomes greater that makes expansion momentum more dominate in the ongoing battle between gravity and expansion in the arena. Fine, but then you said that the separation would continue at an accelerating rate until something interrupted it and that interruption would occur when adjacent parent arenas intersect and overlap. Well I have news for you. Check out what they are calling “dark flow”, Google it. I did and found this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_flow.

Man: You are very astute. It is possible that the detection of dark flow is the first sign that our expanding arena is already in the process of intersecting with the fringes of an adjacent arena.

Sir, if arena intersection and overlap turns out to be cause of dark flow, would that confirm the arena nature of the greater universe?

Man: Very possibly.

Sir, aren’t you exited?

Man: Yes.

Sir, you could have fooled me. You seem calm.

Man: The science is not yet in on dark flow and though there are theories, there are concerns as well about the validity of the data. The premise of one theory is that there are huge remote sections that are causally connected to the Big Bang universe, not separate arenas, whose gravitational influence can be detected on the galaxies that we can see, but that are so remote that the light from those sections can’t be detected. Science is not going to error on the side of enthusiasm for an adjacent arena or an arena landscape like I describe before there are enough observations and data to be conclusive. Until then I will have the privilege of being the sole proprietor of Quantum Wave Cosmology’s arena landscape of the greater universe.

Sir, while we are off on remotely related topics let me ask you about “turtles all the way down”. You know, the topic addressed in this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down.

Man: Lol, you are really out there today. So you want me to address infinite regression as it applies to QWC before I get on to discussion quantum action? OK.

Let me site a couple of examples of infinite regression and then tell you how it might be seen to apply to QWC. One example is from the link to “Turtles all the way down”, where a little old lady sitting at the back of a science lecture got up and said, "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise." The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?” "You're very clever, young man, very clever", said the old lady, "but it's turtles all the way down!”

Another example of infinite regression pertains to God and creation. The question starts out, “Where did the universe come from?”, to which the theologian answers, “God created the universe.” The follow up question of course is, “Where did God come from?” The theologian answers, “God has always existed”. Of course the next question goes to infinite regression, “Who created God?”

There is another brand of infinite regression that pertains specifically to QWC. In QWC there are only two levels of order discussed. The macro level where arena waves expand and overlap to perpetuate the arena landscape of the greater universe, and the micro level where quantum waves expand and overlap to establish the presence of matter and gravity that we can touch and feel. The question left unanswered is about the possibility of levels above and below the two QWC levels of order. One could ask why arena waves at the QWC macro level couldn’t equate to quantum waves at some higher level or grander scale. One could imagine a couple of larger scale giants gazing at a butter bean and wondering if it wasn’t full of tiny particle sized universes where the occupants are oblivious to the presence of “giants like us”. The same reasoning applies to the micro level. You and I could postulate that a quantum particle in our thumb, say a high density spot of QWC fame might be composed of billions of sub-quanta, each one like our own expanding arena on a level of order below ours.

QWC addresses that kind of infinite regression by speculating that endless levels of scale are a possibility but since we have no hard evidence that either arenas or high density spots that define the two levels respectively actually exist. It is premature to speculate about QWC type arenas within higher level quantum particles or high density spots at our quantum level being full of micro arenas.

Sir, I guess you are safe to take that position. Maybe this is a good time to bring up anything else about QWC that is considered “way out there”.

Man: No, not really … unless you consider the cold start to an arena to be way out or maybe you will consider quantum action which we haven’t really discussed to be way out. We will have to address that to see.

Sir, what is this about a “cold start” to an arena?

Man: Maybe I shouldn’t have brought that up because it really requires further contemplation and input, but this is what it is about. We have discussed the formation of the big crunch which can be described as the gravity driven collapse of galaxies within the overlap space of two parent arenas. This would be almost unimaginably hot as the big crunch forms.

The accretion disk feeding the final big crunch would certainly be characterized by extremes of thermal radiation, hot plasma, and gamma radiation, all of which would be fed into the “ultimate black hole” and couldn’t escape. However, when the core of the crunch reaches maximum density, i.e. the dense state of UM, the matter that was capable of radiating heat, light, or ultraviolet rays is negated to dense state UM and ceases to function as matter.

Without matter, the core does not exhibit heat, it does not radiate photons or energy, and it doesn’t even exert gravity. As the core grows in proportion to the total content of the crunch, gradually the accretion activity slows due to diminished gravity and due to the reduced supply of galactic material from the parent arenas. The thermal and gamma radiation surrounding the crunch would begin to subside.

By the time the core has accumulated enough expansion potential to break the final “crust of compression”, the unimaginable heat surrounding the crunch would be significantly reduced. In addition, the impending big bang would not have mature particles of matter in it that could radiate heat or radiation energy because they haven’t had a chance to be formed within the new arena. That is what suggests a “cold start” to an arena, cold being relative to the extreme heat that would characterize the early stages of the big crunch formation.

Sir, I hear you. Perhaps if that is true that could also be a factor that would suggest that the estimates of the temperatures and time periods involved in Big Bang Theory would need to be recalculated. In the light of there being a greater universe and a background radiation that is not wholly connected to a single Big Bang, perhaps the future will lead to new estimates of the time periods required for an arena, our known universe as such to mature to the stage that ours has as you suggested earlier.

Man: Perhaps.

[labelwench]

QWC addresses that kind of infinite regression by speculating that endless levels of scale are a possibility but since we have no hard evidence that either arenas or high density spots that define the two levels respectively actually exist. It is premature to speculate about QWC type arenas within higher level quantum particles or high density spots at our quantum level being full of micro arenas.
Originally posted by Bogie

'Story-telling' has long been the teaching tool of cultures with an oral tradition. As with apprenticeship, it is an experienced form of learning, therefore more memorable, as opposed to 'memorizing' by rote. The Druids had a written language which was useful for communication, and yet they left no records, as they believed that proper learning was 'lived'.

The challenge with the written word is ever in the interpretations and editing, or the taking out of context of one piece which then may completely change it's intent.

I have made bold those phrases in the paragraph above which seem pertinent to my mind.

It is much appreciated that yourself and others do the work, that I might enjoy a 'smorgasbord' of ponders when I return from shift and need to kick back.

[labelwench]

So, Bogie, what is the state of the waves on the quantum ocean today?

Have we a 'Cat's Paw' , a light chop, or a 'Breaker' to contemplate?

Though I may not be well suited to 'debate' the details of a 'concept' that admittedly you are still formulating, I contribute the following glossary of wave terms for your entertainment.

http://www.islandnet.com/~rkashino/waveglos.htm

Is the ocean embedded in the quantum or would the inverse be the case?

Even if you have explained this many times before, there is no harm in restating it again.

One should re-examine when one restates, as opposed to merely a copy and paste, as one will ever find a new perspective on their own perspective.......

No rush.......whenever suits.......

[Bogie]

So, Bogie, what is the state of the waves on the quantum ocean today?

Have we a 'Cat's Paw' , a light chop, or a 'Breaker' to contemplate?

Though I may not be well suited to 'debate' the details of a 'concept' that admittedly you are still formulating, I contribute the following glossary of wave terms for your entertainment.

http://www.islandnet.com/~rkashino/waveglos.htm

Is the ocean embedded in the quantum or would the inverse be the case?

Even if you have explained this many times before, there is no harm in restating it again.

One should re-examine when one restates, as opposed to merely a copy and paste, as one will ever find a new perspective on their own perspective.......

No rush.......whenever suits.......

LW, thank you for the link and for the question. I'll address it now then .

Man: I’ve been contemplating the pertinent prerequisite points in what we’ve discussed so far in order to answer the question about quantum action, gravity, and motion. To start I should point out that the sea of dark matter is not a soup of high density spots waiting to clump into particles; it is a seething sea of spherical waves within the dense Universal medium (UM) of the new arena.

The high density spots have location for only an instant when they form from the encounter between the rapidly expanding dense UM and the light speed energy waves of the universal cosmic microwave background energy (UCMBE) surrounding the new arena. Those spots immediately burst into spherical waves emanating out from their initial location. And remember, the entire arena that has the capacity to become our current observable universe first becomes this seething sea of dark matter. In just a matter of what could be only a few seconds the arena expands and morphs into a dark matter sea. And in just those few seconds each high density spot becomes established at its initial location within the arena.

Needless to say, the duration of the existence of each spot before they proceed into spherical waves is the briefest possible event, and the duration of that event is called a quantum period; it is the same for each spot. The patterns of crests and troughs of waves that form after that initial quantum period are also quantum and also exist for a quantum period until synchronization occurs. The quantum period of a synchronized particle is the length of time it takes for all the individual standing waves and troughs in the particle to refresh once through the process of wave motion.

Synchronization marks the formation of quantum particles but before synchronizations occur the space where each particle will take shape is a chaotic patch of disturbed UM characterized by a crisscrossing pattern of spherical wave crests and troughs that characterize the entire sea of dark matter.

This dark matter pattern of unsynchronized waves proceeds from the period of spot formation to wave emanation to wave intersection and overlap and then to the formation of synchronized patches of standing spherical wave intersections. All of this occurs immediately after the big bang and takes only picoseconds to begin the spread of dark matter across the arena like frost spreads across a window pane.

It is that step of synchronization that marks the transition from an arena sea of dark matter to the buildup of stable particles within the arena. Dark matter itself is the unsynchronized wave patterns that lead to synchronization, and synchronization is a patch of disturbed space where standing spherical waves become established to form the first stable particles.

The unsynchronized waves of the dark matter feed the synchronized patches at the same rate that those patches emanate waves from within their internal space and this exchange of wave action between the unsynchronized and synchronized waves perpetuates the stable patch of disturbed UM. The stabilization locks in the tiny volume of space defined by the set of synchronized wave crests and troughs. The pattern of crests and troughs within the synchronized patches would be observed as stable synchronized standing wave patterns in the UM if we could see them.

Those patterns require a certain amount of space to contain the synchronized crests and troughs and that space has been provided by expansion of the arena. The synchronized patterns remain stable as they move through the universal medium because the medium flows into and out of them at the same rate via the wave energy exchange; synchronization maintains the presence of the particle.

The initial motion of stable particles is called separation momentum which is imparted to them as they from within the expanding arena.

Gravity exists between them because the patches that maintain their presence through synchronization have higher density than the surrounding UM, and therefore the entire particle moves as a unit in response to the nature of the UM to equalize its density across the space of the arena. Particles are attracted by gravity and are separated by expansion but in those close quarters of the early arena gravity is strong enough to allow the synchronized particles to clump.

The individual standing patterns are specific in terms of the number of crests and troughs that are capable of becoming standing waves and that number equates to the number of quanta in the particle. So particles are quantized, and the number of quanta depends on the particular stable pattern of standing waves.

The overall density of the arena dictates the number of quanta that it takes to achieve stability and as the arena expands the number of quanta that it takes for stability increases which allows for more massive particles to “grow” and to form by combination. Each stable pattern has a finite number of niches where standing crests and troughs will physically fit in the configuration. I see these patches as growing to quarks which are the optimum configuration of standing waves at the extreme early density of the arena. As arena expansion permits clumping of quarks into atomic particles, the individual quarks that don’t clump become unstable and disburse into dark matter in the form of unsynchronized spherical waves.

Sir, at first I found your description of the sea of dark matter to be unfathomable but now I see where you were going with it. The dark matter sea is simply an almost instantaneous step in the process of the formation of matter from the dense state UM in which no particles could exist and where matter and gravity couldn’t function. The following step is synchronization of dark matter into something akin to what the mainstream calls quarks, and those quarks either combine into what we recognize as atomic particles or they disburse back into the UM background as unsynchronized waves.

Man: Very good. That process is called quantum action and it maintains the presence of matter. The low density universal medium surrounding particles of matter causes gravity as the UM carries the stable particles along with it as it attempts to equalized the density of the medium across all space, and motion occurred first as initial separation momentum and then gravity alters that separation motion into clumping action.

[labelwench]

Let's get one thing clear, lol, I thank you for your hard work, not out of agreement of the whole, although there are bits and pieces that hold some semblance of order in my mind.

That the universe is reducible beyond our ability to measure or even comprehend poses no difficulty to me. I accept that there are limitations to the capacity of my biology. No problem. We'll achieve optimization without 'running red line' for too long of periods.

For the moment I'm toying with the concept of what a spherical wave might look like......

Thank you for the continuing details.

I'm running at the back of the pack on this one, lol, but you know that history has demonstrated that the battle goes not always to the strong, nor the race to the swift......

Endurance and persistence are the qualities that I most observe in life in all forms.

The means by which these qualities are expressed is ever-changing and ever-fascinating.

[Bogie]

Let's get one thing clear, lol, I thank you for your hard work, not out of agreement of the whole, although there are bits and pieces that hold some semblance of order in my mind.

That the universe is reducible beyond our ability to measure or even comprehend poses no difficulty to me. I accept that there are limitations to the capacity of my biology. No problem. We'll achieve optimization without 'running red line' for too long of periods.

For the moment I'm toying with the concept of what a spherical wave might look like......

Thank you for the continuing details.

I'm running at the back of the pack on this one, lol, but you know that history has demonstrated that the battle goes not always to the strong, nor the race to the swift......

Endurance and persistence are the qualities that I most observe in life in all forms.

The means by which these qualities are expressed is ever-changing and ever-fascinating.

Thank you. We share the same enthusiasm to the extent that we keep our eyes and ears open and pay attention to people who follow a path that we are comfortable following too. No two paths are ever identical but there are common guideposts and markers along the way though they may appear to each of us in a different order. One thing that I realize when I read the contemplations of others on the path and write about my contemplations is that it is much easier to make a person lose interest than it is to keep their interest. Only someone like you who espouses no particular cosmology but shows interest in many different views will be likely to stay with someone like me. You are a rare and appreciated member of the forum.

I’m reviewing a link that I have visited several times in the past. My first impression was that it was more metaphysical than scientific and so I didn’t use it as a reference for the science of waves though I do remember it and would say that I was influenced by it in regard to the concept of standing waves. Now that I have revisited it I am seeing more detail about spherical standing waves and many new visuals that I like very much. It is because of those visuals that I offer this link to help with visualizing the nature of spherical wave intersections and the concept of standing spherical waves in stable configurations like I use in QWC.

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/scienc...e-diagrams.htm

and then to get more technical some might wish to go here:

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physic...-Mechanics.htm

and if you like this stuff you can go to page one and work your way through:

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/

[labelwench]

Good Morning Bogie, and thank you for the links. I have been to that site before but not on those pages, and the illustrations were rather helpful with visualizing a 'spherical wave'.

Another observation at 'ground level' that is fascinating to me is 'synchronization'.

It is that step of synchronization that marks the transition from an arena sea of dark matter to the buildup of stable particles within the arena. Dark matter itself is the unsynchronized wave patterns that lead to synchronization, and synchronization is a patch of disturbed space where standing spherical waves become established to form the first stable particles.
Originally posted by Bogie

In your paragraph above you have used the term synchronization in more than one way and I would ask you to clarify what you intend, that I may better comprehend.

Is synchronization a process, a location or an outcome?

As before, if my comments or questions are distracting to the direction of your dialogue, there is no need to diverge from your course.

[Bogie]

Good Morning Bogie, and thank you for the links. I have been to that site before but not on those pages, and the illustrations were rather helpful with visualizing a 'spherical wave'.

Another observation at 'ground level' that is fascinating to me is 'synchronization'.



In your paragraph above you have used the term synchronization in more than one way and I would ask you to clarify what you intend, that I may better comprehend.

Is synchronization a process, a location or an outcome?

As before, if my comments or questions are distracting to the direction of your dialogue, there is no need to diverge from your course.

Sir, you have used the term synchronization in more than one way and I would ask you to clarify what you intend, that I may better comprehend. Is synchronization *a process,* *a location* or* an outcome*?

Man: I use the terms unsynchronized and synchronized in the same way I refer to unquantized and quantized. The process of quantization or synchronization is called quantum action.

In a new arena the formation of dark matter, also known as high density spots, is a process that occurs before the process of quantum action can begin. High density spots are wave peaks of UM created when the photons of the UCMBE are blue shifted to a halt by the light speed squared impact with the expanding arena wave that expands out from the burst of a big crunch. I toy with the mainstream professionals by saying it is represented as M = E/C^2.

The high density spots are peaks of density on the advancing surface of the tiny but expanding arena of dense UM. The term unsynchronized applies to the spherical waves that form within the arena from the high impact surface encounters. Those waves are unquantized or unsynchronized but they mark the start of the synchronization or quantization process called quantum action.

The process of quantization or synchronization causes stable particles to form as the waves become organized into standing spherical wave patterns. These patterns form in the three dimensional UM similar to the way they appear on the smooth surface of a lake when a light rain beings to fall. You first can see the individual impacts, then the concentric waves, and then the wave intersections and overlaps.

If you look closely at a given patch of the surface the interference patterns of tiny waves from all directions begin to appear as wave crests and troughs that are standing still or even that move together very slowly across the surface. It can put you to sleep if you aren’t getting wet. The crests and troughs aren’t really standing still or moving slowly as a group but the inflow of waves into the space equals the out flow of waves from the space and the standing waves take shape and hold their structure.

It is a big step to go from speculating about this phenomenon within the UM to the actual establishment of stable particles with gravity that can move through the medium but it is my best speculative alternative and doesn’t defy known observations or data as far as I know.

So my answer is that synchronization is part of the process of quantum action that gives location or presence to matter and initiates gravity which is related to the inflow and out flow of UM in and around the particle or object. The outcome or result is that objects moving through the UM leave behind them a path of low density relative to their mass and those paths guide the path of other objects which move toward the path of lowest net density in the UM.

[labelwench]

In a new arena the formation of dark matter, also known as high density spots, is a process that occurs before the process of quantum action can begin.
Originally posted by Bogie

Dark matter plays a central role in state-of-the-art modeling of structure formation and galaxy evolution, and has measurable effects on the anisotropies observed in the cosmic microwave background. All these lines of evidence suggest that galaxies, clusters of galaxies, and the universe as a whole contain far more matter than that which interacts with electromagnetic radiation. The largest part of dark matter, which does not interact with electromagnetic radiation, is not only "dark" but also, by definition, utterly transparent.[3]

As important as dark matter is believed to be in the universe, direct evidence of its existence and a concrete understanding of its nature have remained elusive. Though the theory of dark matter remains the most widely accepted theory to explain the anomalies in observed galactic rotation, some alternative theoretical approaches have been developed which broadly fall into the categories of modified gravitational laws, and quantum gravitational laws.[4]

So my answer is that synchronization is part of the process of quantum action that gives location or presence to matter and initiates gravity which is related to the inflow and out flow of UM in and around the particle or object. The outcome or result is that objects moving through the UM leave behind them a path of low density relative to their mass and those paths guide the path of other objects which move toward the path of lowest net density in the UM.
Originally posted by Bogie

Hmmmmmm.......gravity is another action that has not yet been fully understood, even though we can measure this force and know how much energy is required to overcome same in launching an object into space, beyond the pull of earth's gravitational force.

The synchronization remains my favorite thing to contemplate, for it can be observed by anyone on any scale.

My thought would be, that synchronization is a process the same throughout, and if solved on the 'everyday' level, will be the same at the micro and macro, across time.

Then again, I am a happily simplistic creature, so it is only logical that I would expect a 'simple' mechanism.